RS Tuning Clio 182 Rolling Road Results

[RSTuning]

We have today been to the rolling road to test a couple of remaps we have for the 182 and the results are very surprising to say the least!

The std. car ran 172.1 BHP with 150lbft Torque and with the remap we saw results of 185.7 BHP and 165lbft Torque!

I will post up the graphs when i get a minute or Jason (jas1) may post them. Any questions related to how the car drives to be directed at Jason I will answer any other questions. As with Ben's 172 the results are back to back on the same road so i'm confident these results are accurate.

Cheers

Paul

 

[RichMcc]

Are you saying you had a 182 clio running 172bhp which you remapped to 185?
Or a 172 remapped to 187?

 

[jzr]

it was on a 182 i think

 

[ben_p]

how much is the remap?

 

[DeanJ]

What he's saying (i think) is he has a Clio 182 which was running approx 172.1bhp at the wheels probably 182 at the flywheel which after a remap seen a massive increase to 185.7bhp @ the wheels.

 

[The Hoff]

Nice, what chip/map is that using? Any other breathing mods?

 

[jonnyboy]

Same tuning guys that did my 225, Watch out for them one the 172/182 scene as well. I'll let the drivers of the cars speak for themselves but proving results on the same dyno back to back on the same day is as near to indesputable figures as you can get. Dont see any other tuners doing that sort of thing often!

 

[len_beach]

I can vouch for this as mine was the first 172. I ran 173.5 standard then 177.5 with the re-map but gained between 10 and 12 lb/ft of torque. Much more noticeable than an extra 5 bhp as the torque is gained from 2.5k upwards. Strange how my 172 ran 173.5 standard compared to 172.1 for a 182. I also did about 148 lb/ft, only 2lb/ft down.

 

[Andyman]

What he's saying (i think) is he has a Clio 182 which was running approx 172.1bhp at the wheels probably 182 at the flywheel which after a remap seen a massive increase to 185.7bhp @ the wheels.

At the flywheel not the wheels.

 

[wide]

who are you guy's and how much is the remap???

 

[RSTuning]

Hi Guys, basically the 182 we took to the rollers produced 172.1 at the flywheel before and 185.7 after. We also saw a gain of 15lbft torque which should make all the difference! I will have to take a photo of the graph and post as i don't have a scanner

The price to CS members will be £275 all in, same as the 172's

All Renaultsport ranges can be covered with proven dyno tests completed on the 172, 182 & 225(225 is 400 all in)

Cheers

Paul

 

[BenR]

Thats an extreem amount from a remap, very impressive!

What software are you using?

What areas have you changed inparticular.

What sort of peak timing are you running?

And were the tests all dont on the same fuel, and 95 or 98?

Cheers guys, just some questions to see what your doing to get 12bhp and 15lbs.ft!!!!!

 

[Guy]

any other mods?? or are these otherwise standard cars?

where is this place?

is this undetectable by insurance/renault warranty??


im guessing with bens intake mod and one of those remaps quite a healthy gain can be had.

 

[Nick_R182]

Thats a very good gain from a re-map. Was that on a standard engine?

 

[RSTuning]

That is exactly what i thought! I don't make any changes to the maps myself as this takes years of experience and a few blown engines! The software i am using has been provided by a French man who does many of the RS 172/182 range and promised good results. When the car was on the rollers everything was checked including nock/pinking and there were no problems at all. The car was running on 95 RON fuel and the only mods were a Magnex Zorst, and a really badly fitted Viper (Sorry Jason:rasp: ) which was likely to restrict airflow as it was sat on the radiator!

As for insurance anything is possible but on the surface it is not really detectable unless they have a solder station, programmer, skills, winols and the full original file from this car!

Hope this helps

Paul

 

[Guy]

any chance of you doing this on a STANDARD car and getting some results?

 

[RSTuning]

any chance of you doing this on a STANDARD car and getting some results?

Yes i can but obviously there will still be costs involved. The "test" was only to find the difference/gains not the actual BHP.

Cheers

Paul

 

[Guy]

where abouts is the place based?

can you post results if anyone brings a standard engine in for a remap as im interested as to what gains can be had without any breathing mods as i want to keep my car as standard as possible, but obviously dont wanna pay £275 if theres no proven gain on a standard engine.


cheers

 

[RSTuning]

where abouts is the place based?

can you post results if anyone brings a standard engine in for a remap as im interested as to what gains can be had without any breathing mods as i want to keep my car as standard as possible, but obviously dont wanna pay £275 if theres no proven gain on a standard engine.


cheers

Hi mate, we are based up in Leeds.

Yes i will post results of a STD. car no probs. I would expect very similar gains due to the positioning of the Viper, i would even go so far as to say it may even give better results as the intake is literally pointing directly at the radiator with about 1/2" clearance!

Cheers

Paul

 

[Guy]

leeds? spot on! finally somewhere up north that does tuning. lol

 

[RSTuning]

leeds? spot on! finally somewhere up north that does tuning. lol

The background we are from is Renault! My old man is a Renault specialist and has been for over 50 years! He has all the latest diagnostic kit including the clip. Basically i have been building up the tuning side to run parallel with his business.

Cheers

Paul

 

[olin]

Sorry but I don't know anybody in France that could be able to give +12 bph to a 182 just with a remap.
There probably where other factors that influenced the results like external temp, pressure or bench setting.
The best proven result we know is +10 bhp. This was achieved by Pouchelon racing, and Technomap. They both work on group N and Cup Rally engines for a lot of French teams. They both had to change the distribution timing to get this result, which does not have a nice effect on the torque curve.

 

[Guy]

is this map just another 'general' one though like a superchip?

or is the car mapped specifically on the rollers..

would be best to map on 97 ron fuel surely.

 

[Phill1978]

The background we are from is Renault! My old man is a Renault specialist and has been for over 50 years! He has all the latest diagnostic kit including the clip. Basically i have been building up the tuning side to run parallel with his business.

Cheers

Paul

agree about location in in between york/leeds actually closer to leeds a 20min journey and a exellent price worth a try at that money even if it just smooths out the curve and fills in the gaps

il be getting this done early next year m8.. il pm you when im ready i have a 172cup with Hillpower fitted to standard feed + extra 60mm pipe direct

 

[Phill1978]

this feed should be ok ? can you map to ron 97/98

standard feed + 60mm hose running straight to lower bumber with no twists just straight up.

kept the grill on the intake and the bumper grill to stop A. large item stones and B. wasps and grit etc

 

[Adam]

i would love to have this done................(coilovers first tho..lol)

 

[RSTuning]

Sorry but I don't know anybody in France that could be able to give +12 bph to a 182 just with a remap.
There probably where other factors that influenced the results like external temp, pressure or bench setting.
The best proven result we know is +10 bhp. This was achieved by Pouchelon racing, and Technomap. They both work on group N and Cup Rally engines for a lot of French teams. They both had to change the distribution timing to get this result, which does not have a nice effect on the torque curve.

All i can say is these are the results we got. The Dyno we used is a decent make and not that old. Why would this not be a true reading when each one was carried out within 5 minutes on the same rollers on the same day at the same temperature. At the end of the day these are the results we have so if you don't want it don't buy it! We also did some other testing without a temp probe which produced the same extra BHP but showed the actual as BHP as less.

Paul

 

[RSTuning]

is this map just another 'general' one though like a superchip?

or is the car mapped specifically on the rollers..

would be best to map on 97 ron fuel surely.

It's basically the same idea as buying a Group N ECU which is not car specific.

Paul

 

[Guy]

can you tell me if these are actual individual custom remaps to the car or just a general remap?

every engines different so a general one still wont be getting the best performance out the engine.


sorry, you answered just as i posted. lol

 

[Phill1978]

so is this a laptop jobie or a RR`d with chip and laptop stlye map ?

 

[Guy]

meggerman, hes just said.. its like putting a pre made 'performance' map onto your ECU.

not an individual run on the rollers where they would adjust the map to get the most out of the individual engine.

 

[RSTuning]

Basically the original software is extracted from the ecu, sent off to my tuner and modified. Basically the tuner will optimise the ECU software hence giving optimum performance on the vehicle. Obviously if hours were spent on a rolling road with each car mapping in realtime you may see a couple more BHP and lbft of Torque but after all the rolling road time is it really worth it?

Cheers

Paul

 

[Guy]

dont the french run a shite grade of fuel though? so obviously be better if it was mapped for a 97/98 ron?

 

[RSTuning]

dont the french run a sh*te grade of fuel though? so obviously be better if it was mapped for a 97/98 ron?

This map will run optimum using 97 or higher RON but was tested with 95 to make sure results were good

Cheers

Paul

 

[Guy]

ok thats cool then

95 ron fuel sucks the fat one. lol

 

[Phill1978]

dont the french run a sh*te grade of fuel though? so obviously be better if it was mapped for a 97/98 ron?

agree with GayS, mapping for ron 98 would be esencial if i were to get it done m8.

im not joking i got 100miles more driving from a brimmed tank of 98ron than i did when i used 95 ! the feel of the car on 95 is soo slugish compared and loses a lot of smoothness.

just for arguments sake if you mapped for 97/98 and then unavoidably ran 95 would the car die or just alter the map until you put 97 back in ?

 

[RSTuning]

agree with GayS, mapping for ron 98 would be esencial if i were to get it done m8.

im not joking i got 100miles more driving from a brimmed tank of 98ron than i did when i used 95 ! the feel of the car on 95 is soo slugish compared and loses a lot of smoothness.

just for arguments sake if you mapped for 97/98 and then unavoidably ran 95 would the car die or just alter the map until you put 97 back in ?

To be honest the car will run fine on either as Jason has found out. As from the factory the cars can run either but just run better on 98.

Cheers

Paul

 

[jas1]

right guys its my car the remap has been done on, havn't posted earlier, had small crisis at work, and site was down last night.

basically the car is standard other than the cat back magnex, and as paul has said a badly placed viper filter. using cheapest unleaded money can buy.

was well impressed by the results, shame the weather was about as bad as it could be yesterday, always have given the car a good thrashing this afternoon, definetely alot more midrange power, and pulls better though the gears when high up the rev range. most noticable change is from low down, 3,000 revs or so, put your foot down in 3rd or 4th pulls alot better.

can see the next couple of weeks being expensive, cant keep my foot off the throttle

i guess the question is, is the remap worth its money, i would say definetely, even the guys running the dyno were impressed by the gains

 

[Guy]

is yours the 182 which is now a 185?

 

[jas1]

the question thats got to be asked is anyones 182 really a 182