Lol at 1 degree toe out each side Chris 
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Russ_16v's ITB'd & Caged 182 Track Car (Was Crispy's)
- Thread starter chrispy.clio
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TrackCar & F30 330d
Lol at 1 degree toe out each side Chris
Too much? It just says 1.0 on the shims so i dont know what that is.
How much are you going to be running?
Personally yeah, A degree each side is adding 120 mins of toe out overall. For my current setup I will only be fine tuning so probably add 5 mins per side and then go from there. I would confidently add 10 mins per side to mine but would prefer to work my way upto it and get the data for both
182cup & 172 racecar
Chris, bin the washers, not only will they rust and change, they will also dig into the shims and change everything. Get another set of shims to put in.
I've got 2 sets in, 1 for toe and 1 for camber.
You have got to get it on a machine first to see where you are to start with. Then work it out from there.
I had to get different ones for each side as it was toeing differently each side. 1mm toe out overall, not each side lol.
I've got 2 sets in, 1 for toe and 1 for camber.
You have got to get it on a machine first to see where you are to start with. Then work it out from there.
I had to get different ones for each side as it was toeing differently each side. 1mm toe out overall, not each side lol.
TrackCar & F30 330d
Short update!
After lots of thinking and a few emails to Carbone Lorraine I ended up buying a set of CL pads, but the more aggressive RC6!
These should not crumble away so I'm looking forward to getting my face pulled off with the stopping power!
Also bought 2 sets of Brembo HC discs so the pads eat them to their hearts content!
Painted the calipers black again aswell as buying some new lower ball joints as that was the last thing I needed to replace!
quick pic
I have made a few suspension changes too to hopefully improve the handling a bit more!
Should be doing a trackday soon but need to think if I can afford it as its in another country!!!!!!
After lots of thinking and a few emails to Carbone Lorraine I ended up buying a set of CL pads, but the more aggressive RC6!
These should not crumble away so I'm looking forward to getting my face pulled off with the stopping power!
Also bought 2 sets of Brembo HC discs so the pads eat them to their hearts content!
Painted the calipers black again aswell as buying some new lower ball joints as that was the last thing I needed to replace!
quick pic
I have made a few suspension changes too to hopefully improve the handling a bit more!
Should be doing a trackday soon but need to think if I can afford it as its in another country!!!!!!
Germany by chance? Haha..
That'll stop you!!
Do you know what make your front spacers are - I quite like the fact they seem to have steel inserts in them rather than just being alloy
Do you know what make your front spacers are - I quite like the fact they seem to have steel inserts in them rather than just being alloy
mikes86
ClioSport Club Member
182 track **** & MX5
Chris you will love the RC6, they are bloody incredible pads and are a nice step up from RC5+ if you have used them. Be prepared for some epic squeeling though :rasp:
Are you running spacers on the rear wheels, as i've just put on some hub spacers with 2 degrees camber, this will fix your dodgy washer problem and will get rid of the rotational mass on the wheels :approve:
Also how have you got over 3 degrees on the front, i assume you are using AST top mounts, but was under the impression with camber bolts and AST the max camber you can have is 3 degrees? I only ask as i am tempted to get rid of my pure motorsport kit for some AST's.
Are you running spacers on the rear wheels, as i've just put on some hub spacers with 2 degrees camber, this will fix your dodgy washer problem and will get rid of the rotational mass on the wheels :approve:
Also how have you got over 3 degrees on the front, i assume you are using AST top mounts, but was under the impression with camber bolts and AST the max camber you can have is 3 degrees? I only ask as i am tempted to get rid of my pure motorsport kit for some AST's.
182cup & 172 racecar
If you have slotted holes for camber in your struts. DO NOT use camber bolts, they will move.
If I used the top mount for camber as well, I could get about 6deg's, so don't know who told you that.
If I used the top mount for camber as well, I could get about 6deg's, so don't know who told you that.
Clio 172
That'll stop you!!
Do you know what make your front spacers are - I quite like the fact they seem to have steel inserts in them rather than just being alloy
H&R Phil, can get them from Venom Motorsport. I just got a set for mine.
^^ Cheers chap. off to order them now then I can fit my rear spacers too
mikes86
ClioSport Club Member
182 track **** & MX5
Sorry Tony i must be having a blonde moment, AST top mounts say they can only offer a further 1.4 degrees of camber, and standard mounts with camber bolts is 1.5degrees, (i think) so just under 3 degrees total. What am i not getting?
Sorry Tony i must be having a blonde moment, AST top mounts say they can only offer a further 1.4 degrees of camber, and standard mounts with camber bolts is 1.5degrees, (i think) so just under 3 degrees total. What am i not getting?
I posted a pic above showing standard suspension with camber bolts set to max. 4 and a bit degrees from the bolts + 1.4 degrees from the top mounts = degrees 6 like Tony said he has had.
You want to use the AST top mounts for caster, 4 degrees is going to be more than ample mate.
mikes86
ClioSport Club Member
182 track **** & MX5
Indeed, i was really only after 3 on the front. What bolts are you guys using, i presume eibach? I was unaware they offer up to 4 degrees, im currently using the "camber bolts" that are supplied with my coilovers but they have only allowed me to get 1.5 degrees. I'm also running the pure motorsport topmount kit at the moment, i doubt this would effect the amount of camber i could have? I was tempted to get rid of my cheap coilovers and revert back to cup shocks and cooksport springs as i can't afford fancy suspension! It could be a nice setup for the money with 3 degrees and correct caster!
Tell me to GTFO if you don't want this in here chris
Tell me to GTFO if you don't want this in here chris
TrackCar & F30 330d
No pictures in this update, but i noticed that my 172 cup compensating valve seems to have been leaking!! Not from the brake pipes but from the middle bit right at the bottom of the valve!! Its a pain because i didn't really want to buy a new one but i might have a go as bodging it with sealer to stop the leaking! Its cant be any worse than what it already is!
Also as some of you know i have 6 trackdays left on my Easy Track multi pack but as i cant use them yet (maybe not ever) i'm looking to do a trackday soon somewhere as i'm having trackday withdrawal symptoms!!
Might get chance to finish a few bits this coming monday so i have have a little update with some pics!
Also as some of you know i have 6 trackdays left on my Easy Track multi pack but as i cant use them yet (maybe not ever) i'm looking to do a trackday soon somewhere as i'm having trackday withdrawal symptoms!!
Might get chance to finish a few bits this coming monday so i have have a little update with some pics!
I read a guys thread the other day where he'd converted to running the rear brake lines in the car
Roll of copper pipe, £35 in fittings and a bias valve mounted next to the drivers seat
Looked a good and relatively inexpensive solution that doesn't require the shitty cup bias valve
Roll of copper pipe, £35 in fittings and a bias valve mounted next to the drivers seat
Looked a good and relatively inexpensive solution that doesn't require the shitty cup bias valve
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
This!!!
Ahhh I did wonder that as I remember you saying something about the in car bias valves only going down to 75/25 or something and cup bias valve is about 8% isn't it?
Would that still be applicable though if you had 4 pots on the front with 300mm discs like me? Surely a bit more bias on the rear might be nice
Would that still be applicable though if you had 4 pots on the front with 300mm discs like me? Surely a bit more bias on the rear might be nice
182cup & 172 racecar
TrackCar & F30 330d
Tony I'm at the Nurburgring that weekend so can't make that one. It's a shame as I would have liked to have been on track with your car.
I'm very happy with my brake set up being 95% front brakes, apart from the peddle only really working from the last third of its travel which isn't very reassuring! There must be a problem somewhere and I'm hoping it this rear bias valve. I never lock my wheels when the tyres are warmed up, apart from when the Integra span infront of me at Oulton!
I'm very happy with my brake set up being 95% front brakes, apart from the peddle only really working from the last third of its travel which isn't very reassuring! There must be a problem somewhere and I'm hoping it this rear bias valve. I never lock my wheels when the tyres are warmed up, apart from when the Integra span infront of me at Oulton!
TrackCar & F30 330d
My exhaust is too loud for Combe!!! I think i really need to get a silencer made for the exhaust so i can do more trackdays!
That was the problem I had with my Group N - it was too loud for half the tracks in the country so had a center silencer fitted - only cost about £60
182cup & 172 racecar
I've got to do something with my exhaust, it's come up at 107 and 106 db twice now!! More frikken expense.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
I've got a 2.5" magnex centre section you could cut the silencer out of if that's any use Tony?
TrackCar & F30 330d
At Oulton Park they said i was just about on 105 DB which was their limit, but i didnt get in trouble all day so it might not have been too bad on the drive by!
182cup & 172 racecar
Mines worse on the drive by.
TrackCar & F30 330d
So today i opened my new Rs232 - USB cable so i could plug my Omex ECU into the laptop so i can make some changes! After loading the driver onto the laptop it connected straight away!!! All those bloody hours trying to get the old cable to work and it never did!!
Anyway, i had made the wiring like this....
And then went to this to set when the fan came on....
But when the car got to 94 deg the car never came on!!! So have i dont something wrong??
Also i connected my shift light like this!
But where do i set the RPM for the light to come on at? is it one of these that i go to?
I thought i had to put the figure into the Engine speed box but i cant seem to edit it!
Any help would be good
Anyway, i had made the wiring like this....
And then went to this to set when the fan came on....
But when the car got to 94 deg the car never came on!!! So have i dont something wrong??
Also i connected my shift light like this!
But where do i set the RPM for the light to come on at? is it one of these that i go to?
I thought i had to put the figure into the Engine speed box but i cant seem to edit it!
Any help would be good
TrackCar & F30 330d
I'm a actually running them straight from the battery! So they should be a good 12v
TrackCar & F30 330d
Well i will go and double check everything today but i'm sure they are all good!
TrackCar & F30 330d
Ooooo good idea Jord!
I used to have the fan on a switch so when i "thought" it was getting hot i would just flick the switch so i know the fan works, so i will check the relay!
I used to have the fan on a switch so when i "thought" it was getting hot i would just flick the switch so i know the fan works, so i will check the relay!
182cup & 172 racecar
I like reading all this, but I haven't got a fkn clue what you are all on about.
Keep it up lol.
Keep it up lol.
