Saxo VTS as a track car

[mr bognor]

Not this year as iv spent enough on it for now and with some fuel in the tank it will sit more level at the back but still with a front rake .

It can all be taken off and the stock parts put back on if I want but this will not happen I think .

not tempted to reset the rear slightly lower to keep it more level, surely its going to nose down badly under braking like that?

overall though great work on the refit and for not actually 'ruining' it as all the bits are just bolt on anyway! lovely stuff!

 

[mr bognor]

And just to finish off a small sticker at the rear that will add around another 20-50 BHP to the car


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And a key ring J



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[imprezaworks]

Pics arnt working mate

 

[mr bognor]

Another try


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And a Key ring J



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[Coops Mk1]

Minimum 25bhp across those two ;-)

 

[mr bognor]

So along with the keyring we are looking at + 75 bhp

Minimum 25bhp across those two ;-)

 

[Coops Mk1]

gainz @mr bognor

 

[mr bognor]

Last few bits done before the tyres get fitted .


Removed the sound material from under the front carpet


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And put a fire extinguisher in the rear


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[mr bognor]

Ok so with 3 and a half weeks to go before the Nurburgring trip Tyre leader have lost my Nankang NS-2R tyres , the new thermostat is still playing up and not opening all the time causing the car to overheat and when removing some of the sound insulation I have nicked a fuel line and fuel is leaking in to the passenger foot well .


Nothing like a last minute rush LOL


Nothing is ever easy J

 

[Budgie]

3 weeks? The stuff you've mentioned above is a 20 minute job. (;

 

[mr bognor]

More like 25 minute I think you will find

3 weeks? The stuff you've mentioned above is a 20 minute job. (;

 

[mr bognor]

Ok so an update .


Tyres have been found and will be fitted today along with the tracking .


I have installed a VTR fuel line as this is the only stock fuel line in the country it would seem . It is a bit longer but all the connectors and size is the same as the VTS .


The cooling system is now working spot on and is running cooler after installing a 306 GTI 6 82 deg thermostat and bleeding the car for a 4th time .


https://www.flickr.com/photos/156687514@N04/shares/974No7


Just a few more checks and we are done J

 

[mr bognor]

Ok so an update .


Tyres have been found and will be fitted today along with the tracking .


I have installed a VTR fuel line as this is the only stock fuel line in the country it would seem . It is a bit longer but all the connectors and size is the same as the VTS .


The cooling system is now working spot on and is running cooler after installing a 306 GTI 6 82 deg thermostat and bleeding the car for a 4th time .

WP_20170715_15_23_42_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr


Just a few more checks and we are done J

 

[Budgie]

What is that air filter all about?

 

[mr bognor]

Just on when I was bleeding the cooling system as the other one gets in the way

What is that air filter all about?

 

[mr bognor]

Nearly there with the car .


Nankang NS-2R tyres fitted yesterday .


They are 195/50/15 so just about fit and I mean just with only a few mm clearance .


The stock size are 195/45/15 but I can’t get any semi slick tyres in this size so have had to go for the 50 profile .

WP_20170717_19_49_29_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr

WP_20170717_19_49_10_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr


And the tracking done .

WP_20170717_22_11_02_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr


Two and a half weeks to go J

 

[mr bognor]

had a few spear mins so thought I would see how much the build has cost me .

I could have done this much cheaper using second hand parts but all the parts are new .

So all in with the cost of the car and all the parts it is £ 3,644 all in .


SAXO VTS PARTS LIST PRICE

ENGINE
4-2-1 EXHAUST MANIFOLD £164.00
GRAMS FULL DE CAT EXHAUST SYSTEM £237.00
SPARK PLUGS £8.00
RADIATOR £35.00
O2 SENSOR £24.00
IDLE AIR CONTROL VALVE £14.00
BOSH MAP SENSOR £28.00
INTAKE AIR TEMP SENSOR £10.00
CRANK SHAFT SENSOR £16.00
COOLANT TEMP SENSOR GREEN £10.00
COOLANT TEMP SENSOR BLUE £11.00
RACELAND INDUCTION KIT £58.00
GREEN AIR FILTER £34.00
COOLANT HOSE KIT £55.00
FUEL FILTER £5.00
COIL PACK £48.00
82 DEG 306 GTI-6 THERMOSTAT £10.00
THERMOSTAT HOUSING KIT £30.00
COOLANT MOTUL SUPER COOL ADDITIVE £15.00

GEARBOX
GEARBOX OIL £27.00
BM QUICK SHIFTER £20.00
KAM RACING SOLID GEAR LINKAGE £50.00

SUSPENSION
BILSTINE B8 DAMPERS £369.00
GRAMS 160LB SPRINGS £100.00
NANKANG NS-2R SEMI SLICK TYRES £246.00
TRACKING £30.00
OMP STRUT BRACE FRONT TOP £66.00
OMP STRUT BRACE FRONT BOTTOM £45.00
NEW STRUT TOP MOUNTS £46.00
DROP LINKS £23.00
POWER FLEX FARB MOUNTS BLACK £28.00
TRACK ROD ENDS £10.00
FRONT WISHBONE X 2 £60.00

BREAKS
CL RC5+ FRONT BRAKE PADS £111.00
BLACK DIAMOND BRAIDED BREAK LINES £50.00
MOTUL RBF 600 RACE BRAKE FLUID £37.00
BREMBO SPORT MAXX HC FRONT DISCS FOC
REAR DISCS FOC
REAR PADS FOC
NEW FRONT VTS CALIPERS £152.00

MISCELLANEOUS PARTS
NEW BULBS £28.00
OMP STAR HELMET X 2 £115.00
OMP GLOVES £32.00
CAR FIRE EXTINGUISHER £12.00
GULF 10-W40 RACING OIL + OIL FILTER £48.00
GOLD OIL SUMP PLUG £12.00
CARGO NET £6.00
FRONT FLAT WIPER BLADES £7.00
REAR WIPER BUNG £2.00

TOTAL SPEND £2,544

WEIGHT REDUCTION

EXHAUST SYSTEM -9
MANIFOLD -10
AIR BOX INDUCTION -2
FRONT ARCH LINERS -1
REAR PARCEL SHELF -3
FRONT SPEAKERS + CD PLAYER -4
REAR SPEAKERS -2
REAR PLASTIC -2
REAR WIPER + MOTER -3
BOOT CARPET + REAR SOUND DEADENING -5
FRONT FOG LIGHTS + ARCH LINERS -2
REAR SEATS + REAR SETBELTS + BRACKETS -15
REAR SPEAR WHEEL CAGE -1
SPEAR WHEEL + JACK -19
ROOF TRIM + SUNROOF COVER -3
FRONT + REAR SOUND FOAM / TAR DEADENING -7
MISCELLANEOUS BRACKETS + BITS -5

TOTAL STOCK WEIGHT OF SAXO VTS 935 KG
TOTAL WEIGHT REDUCTION 93 KG
TOTAL STRIPED WEIGHT OF SAXO VTS 842 KG

 

[Poopensharten]

If that makes 140bhp at that weight its around 166bhp/ton, that'll absolutely fly.

 

[JamesBryan]

Get some toe out put on that thing, turn in will be much sharper.

-0.10 total should do. Currently toeing in 0.18, so will tend to understeer a bit.

 

[mr bognor]

So with the VTS now done bar an oil change I thought I would give it a proper run to work ( 40 miles each way ) and what an amazing little car this thing is .


It has surprised me how it can keep up with traffic low in the rev range and has a real kick to 5500 RPM to the red line .


Handling is great and has lots of grip and even the refreshed stock size breaks really stop the car very well .


A Saxo VTS / 106 GTI is already a great little car but add basic breathing mods ( 4-2-1 manifold , induction and full exhaust ) and remove around 100 Kg and they are right little weapons .


Happy with my choice about going for a Saxo VTS for a track car and I’m sure it will be great fun at the ring in a few weeks .


If it makes it back in one piece next year I will look at …


Full or half roll cage

Bucket seats

306 GTI-6 front breaks

Cat cams

New / refurbed rear sub frame / torsion bar

WP_20170721_10_52_03_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr

 

[imprezaworks]

Camber not equal?

 

[mr bognor]

feels good to drive so don't know or care

Camber not equal?

 

[imprezaworks]

Can't argue with science

Lol

 

[mr bognor]

They rarely match up perfectly on Saxo's I have read

Below is from another forum

I had my tracking done yesterday on a hunter allignment machine and got a full digital readout on caster, camber and toe for front and rear (excluding castor for rear obviously).

The angles which are not adjustable though (every thing except front toe) are not equal from side to side etc, just wanted to know if this sounds okay or if something sounds bent:

NSF camber: -1.02 degrees
OSF camber: -0.06 degrees

NSF caster: 0.55 degrees
OSF caster: 1.06 degrees

Can't argue with science

Lol

 

[mr bognor]

So the car is now all finished .


All bulbs replaced .

WP_20170722_15_01_54_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr


And oil , filter and Gold sump plug changed .

WP_20170722_17_44_52_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr


That’s it all now done and ready bar I did just order some light weight door cards and pull straps but that will be the last thing .

 

[mr bognor]

Ok so after saying the car is done and I will not get anymore bits this year I could not help getting a OMP steering wheel to finish the car off .



It is an OMP flat 300mm and done in suede .

WP_20170729_11_28_42_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr



Removing the old one was easy and the new unit fits well .

WP_20170729_13_41_37_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr



It feels very nice and is very small .


Only bad points are that I cant see the dials now LOL

WP_20170729_17_03_39_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr

 

[mr bognor]

So my lightweight door cards turned up just in time to fit them along with the Blue door pulls so last night I installed them .

WP_20170803_19_27_37_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr


That is now it and we will see if the car makes it back or if I will need to look for a new track toy

 

[mr bognor]

Ok so after the trip to the ring im left with the car that is not too happy and I lay the blame with the G/F for maxing it to 130 MPH on the autobahn

The main problem is the gearbox is whining very bad and crunch / will not go in to second and third
The power steering is playing and needs some working to kick in
the car is going through coolant and I cant see any leeks so might be head gasket
Sun roof is leaking
Engine runs a bit lumpy at low revs and sometimes wants to stall

So in a nut shell I think I have managed to kill the car with just one trip to the ring so need to have a think on what to do .

It was still a amazing little thing and handled amazing on the track .

 

[JamesBryan]

Go wild and stick a K20 in it!

 

[mr bognor]

Go wild and stick a K20 in it!

Im just thinking what to do on this .

Get all the bits done or start a new track car project

 

[millhouse]

Hi any chance you have some bits left over after selling the saxo? Have just got myself a vts and am after a few bit

 

[mr bognor]

No sorry all the bits and the car have now been sold .

Regards

Hi any chance you have some bits left over after selling the saxo? Have just got myself a vts and am after a few bit

 

[millhouse]

Oh right nevermind, new project looks promising

 

[Donny_Dog]

Hi any chance you have some bits left over after selling the saxo? Have just got myself a vts and am after a few bit

What bits do you need?

 

[millhouse]

Sorry for the delay been away, I'm after the original airbox as I have a tired looking induction kit on mine but want to go back to standard