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Update:
Ok on Thursday the 2nd, I headed off to RS Tuning in Leeds. My family didn’t want me to go, as all they saw on the news was people getting stuck up north on the roads. But I was inpatient and wanted/needed my remap. So my sort of sensible hat came on, and I packed the car with the following:
-Sleeping bag
-Big shovel
-Water
-Food
-Big empty bottle
I said to the family I’ll check the traffic websites before I set off, but at 5:15am I was like a zombie and just headed for the M5. All was going well until I got to the M1, just before the Sheffield junction I got stuck in a traffic jam, due to a car transporter falling over. I was doing so well up until then, after 40 minutes waiting, I really needed to go to the loo, so out came the big empty bottle
Traffic Jam:
Started snowing:
Over an hour had gone by, I called Paul and explained the situation and he was cool with it. Then a lorry moved in lane 1 (I was in lane 2) so this enabled me to move to lane 1. Now I had stopped literally at the slip road to get off to Sheffield. I thought sod it, I’ll get off and see if I can get back on, or if it’s really bad head home. I was kicking myself when I got to the top of the slip road, silly me didn’t think about all the other traffic trying to get onto the M1 for an hour, so at the top of the slip road was a nightmare. I could only go left towards Sheffield, started to think to myself WHY didn’t I just listen to the family at this point!!! There was cars and lorry’s everywhere, abandoned, so I slowly made my way towards Sheffield, I was doing 20mph maybe less, I was causing a queue behind me, but thought sod it, I’m taking my time.
Looked on the sat-nav, zoomed out and I could see the M1 bent to the left and around Sheffield a bit, great I thought I can get back on. So 20 mins later I start seeing signs for M1, spot on. Got back on and headed back to Leeds, and got there after 5 hours in total.
check out the front plate
Pauls colleague washed my car off (thumbs up) and in it went. Got the car mapped, and then went home, got home in 3 hours.
Car ticked over to 58k so thought I’d take a snap
This is not 80mph as i'm on 15" wheels = crappy mpg also :dapprove:
Ok the part most of you want to see, the results:
As you can see from the results my engine gives up at 6500rpm, but the torque curve Is good. For some reason or the other my car is around 10bhp down, which is obviously linked to whatever is causing the engine to give up at 6500rpm range. Sent the graphs to Tom at JMS who looked at them, then called me back. Tom advised that he was very impressed with the torque curve and is a sign of a healthy engine. Tom said he will need to have my car back, to take a look at what could be causing this issue. A few things he suggested that could be causing it:
-A small blockage somewhere, maybe in the exhaust, filter or somewhere.
-Low compression in the engine, and is this linked to the small oil leak I have?
-The fact I’m running 15” wheels make any difference, had Paul calculated this factor when mapping?
I just need to get the car back to Tom now. But tbh I don’t drive to the limiter often at all, and the low down grunt is very addictive. But I’ve paid for this mod/power so I want to get it sorted. For those interested, the best way I could describe my car now after the rs2, de-cat, uprated engine mounts fitted, is ‘RAW’ & 'exciting'. I still get the odd throttle response delay from 1st gear to 2nd, but only very minor and mainly when the engine is cold and not warmed up yet. I have also noticed since first getting the car from JMS, that the steam coming out of the exhausts, well it only really comes out of the left tail pipe. Is this another sign of a small blockage? Something isn't quite right.......
Thoughts / comments / suggestions welcome
Ok on Thursday the 2nd, I headed off to RS Tuning in Leeds. My family didn’t want me to go, as all they saw on the news was people getting stuck up north on the roads. But I was inpatient and wanted/needed my remap. So my sort of sensible hat came on, and I packed the car with the following:
-Sleeping bag
-Big shovel
-Water
-Food
-Big empty bottle
I said to the family I’ll check the traffic websites before I set off, but at 5:15am I was like a zombie and just headed for the M5. All was going well until I got to the M1, just before the Sheffield junction I got stuck in a traffic jam, due to a car transporter falling over. I was doing so well up until then, after 40 minutes waiting, I really needed to go to the loo, so out came the big empty bottle
Traffic Jam:
Started snowing:
Over an hour had gone by, I called Paul and explained the situation and he was cool with it. Then a lorry moved in lane 1 (I was in lane 2) so this enabled me to move to lane 1. Now I had stopped literally at the slip road to get off to Sheffield. I thought sod it, I’ll get off and see if I can get back on, or if it’s really bad head home. I was kicking myself when I got to the top of the slip road, silly me didn’t think about all the other traffic trying to get onto the M1 for an hour, so at the top of the slip road was a nightmare. I could only go left towards Sheffield, started to think to myself WHY didn’t I just listen to the family at this point!!! There was cars and lorry’s everywhere, abandoned, so I slowly made my way towards Sheffield, I was doing 20mph maybe less, I was causing a queue behind me, but thought sod it, I’m taking my time.
Looked on the sat-nav, zoomed out and I could see the M1 bent to the left and around Sheffield a bit, great I thought I can get back on. So 20 mins later I start seeing signs for M1, spot on. Got back on and headed back to Leeds, and got there after 5 hours in total.
check out the front plate
Pauls colleague washed my car off (thumbs up) and in it went. Got the car mapped, and then went home, got home in 3 hours.
Car ticked over to 58k so thought I’d take a snap
This is not 80mph as i'm on 15" wheels = crappy mpg also :dapprove:
Ok the part most of you want to see, the results:
As you can see from the results my engine gives up at 6500rpm, but the torque curve Is good. For some reason or the other my car is around 10bhp down, which is obviously linked to whatever is causing the engine to give up at 6500rpm range. Sent the graphs to Tom at JMS who looked at them, then called me back. Tom advised that he was very impressed with the torque curve and is a sign of a healthy engine. Tom said he will need to have my car back, to take a look at what could be causing this issue. A few things he suggested that could be causing it:
-A small blockage somewhere, maybe in the exhaust, filter or somewhere.
-Low compression in the engine, and is this linked to the small oil leak I have?
-The fact I’m running 15” wheels make any difference, had Paul calculated this factor when mapping?
I just need to get the car back to Tom now. But tbh I don’t drive to the limiter often at all, and the low down grunt is very addictive. But I’ve paid for this mod/power so I want to get it sorted. For those interested, the best way I could describe my car now after the rs2, de-cat, uprated engine mounts fitted, is ‘RAW’ & 'exciting'. I still get the odd throttle response delay from 1st gear to 2nd, but only very minor and mainly when the engine is cold and not warmed up yet. I have also noticed since first getting the car from JMS, that the steam coming out of the exhausts, well it only really comes out of the left tail pipe. Is this another sign of a small blockage? Something isn't quite right.......
Thoughts / comments / suggestions welcome
None :(
In what sence do you mean?
My sat-nav warns you when you are going 80mph (for some reason). It started warning me when the needle hit 95mph! so the speedo is definatly off.
If you mean in terms of the results, i have no idea, i'm leaving that to the experts, it was just chucked into the air during convo with Tom.....
My sat-nav warns you when you are going 80mph (for some reason). It started warning me when the needle hit 95mph! so the speedo is definatly off.
If you mean in terms of the results, i have no idea, i'm leaving that to the experts, it was just chucked into the air during convo with Tom.....
Adey.
ClioSport Club Member
its cold out so youll get steam, tho do you get it even after a hard drive?
None :(
Good point, I’ve only noticed when I first start the car up. But I do remember last year in the winter, the steam came out the pipes equally either side. I’m about to do a 30 mile motorway journey, so when I get home I’ll get out the car and check then. Hopefully I can get a place under a lamp post
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Hes on 45 profiles though iirc, so it will be waaay out lol...
None :(
Thanks for the input guys much appreciated.
If it was cam timing, i wouldn't get that torque line would i?
Good point on the route bomber, but even my friend mentioned it to me (when i told him my car didn't make the expected bhp) when Tom started the car for the first time in the garage it only came out the one pipe, he's used to seeing it come out of both pipes at this time of year same as me. I Kinda wish he mentioned it at the time, so i could of asked Tom there and then.
If it was cam timing, i wouldn't get that torque line would i?
Good point on the route bomber, but even my friend mentioned it to me (when i told him my car didn't make the expected bhp) when Tom started the car for the first time in the garage it only came out the one pipe, he's used to seeing it come out of both pipes at this time of year same as me. I Kinda wish he mentioned it at the time, so i could of asked Tom there and then.
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Adey.
ClioSport Club Member
Timing can cause funny things, mine was out and made it's power higher up the revs than normal
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
What exhaust do you have?
If its Powerflow or something, only ones probably connected lol
If its Powerflow or something, only ones probably connected lol
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
he didn't like my electrical tape
Neither did the local fire service. Called it a hazard to health & saftey iirc.
Few bits and bobs to finish up, but we'll get there. It has a slight restriction at the top end; however discussions with Paul have not heralded any specific problems so we'll need to get it back and investigate, you never know - it might be reunited with Deans car!
We'll check the timing amongst other things as standard procedure, I can't recall if James has had the belts done?
Its torque is bang on the money, it just drops away 500rpm to early;
yours:
Another Customers 182:
We'll check the timing amongst other things as standard procedure, I can't recall if James has had the belts done?
Its torque is bang on the money, it just drops away 500rpm to early;
yours:
Another Customers 182:
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Adey.
ClioSport Club Member
That's a mains cable joining/distribution block, get them from electrical places
None :(
Hey Tom thanks for the input!
Just called the garage where i had the cam-belt changed. It was a cam-belt kit which was installed, inc tension belt, aux belt and the cam belt. This was done at 41849 miles on the 2nd of April 2009. The only thing that wasn't changed was the water pump, so this i would imagine is due now?
Any updates/news regarding the fuel rail Tom?
Just called the garage where i had the cam-belt changed. It was a cam-belt kit which was installed, inc tension belt, aux belt and the cam belt. This was done at 41849 miles on the 2nd of April 2009. The only thing that wasn't changed was the water pump, so this i would imagine is due now?
Any updates/news regarding the fuel rail Tom?
Chris205
ClioSport Club Member
Many Things
My 182 was exactly the same, just after 6300 it seemed to just drop off and lose its power, then regain it at 6900....very strange. We thought possibly a sensor or injector issue, however I would think if it was a faulty injector it might play up earlier in the rev range
R26
It will almost certainly be due to high demand flow rates through the engine due to the fact it is only present in the upper RPM, something small like a slightly off mounted throttle body or the likes. It's impossible to compare to a stock manifold as it does not herald the same type of airflow characteristics (peaky with low and high RPM torque dropping off).
Anyway we'll examine all of the options and go from there.
None :(
Ok sorry for the lack of updates on this;
Silly little orange wheels are now off the car!
I’ve been doing some more stripage, but I’ve now come to the stage where I need a heat gun and a good nice day to tackle what’s left.
When the car was at JMS, Tom spent some time cleaning my engine bay so i can keep an eye out to see where any fresh oil on the engine comes from. Thanks Tom well chuffed with what you did there!
Some pics:
Before:
After:
Tom at JMS advised me that I may have been loosing peek power due to the throttle body not being 100% in-line with the manifold. I think this is what he meant anyways
Well the engine does pull strong to over 7k rpm now, which is great. I went to a local rolling road meet yesterday and below are the results:
I know it’s not the same RR, hopefully I will get the chance to go back up to RS Tuning soon to get it back on the rollers there.
See you at FCS!
James.
Silly little orange wheels are now off the car!
I’ve been doing some more stripage, but I’ve now come to the stage where I need a heat gun and a good nice day to tackle what’s left.
When the car was at JMS, Tom spent some time cleaning my engine bay so i can keep an eye out to see where any fresh oil on the engine comes from. Thanks Tom well chuffed with what you did there!
Some pics:
Before:
After:
Tom at JMS advised me that I may have been loosing peek power due to the throttle body not being 100% in-line with the manifold. I think this is what he meant anyways
Well the engine does pull strong to over 7k rpm now, which is great. I went to a local rolling road meet yesterday and below are the results:
I know it’s not the same RR, hopefully I will get the chance to go back up to RS Tuning soon to get it back on the rollers there.
See you at FCS!
James.
