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Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
a lot of money for no gain over an 8k 182...
i've driven three now, all have left me feeling glad to be getting back into my creaky old tin!
i've driven three now, all have left me feeling glad to be getting back into my creaky old tin!
clio 172
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKHOLdnpiOk listen 2 what he has 2 say bout her thn
Leon Cupra R 225
I've just been to a local Reno dealer. There was a 182 in liquid yellow, 05 plate up for 10k and a black 197 for 16k new (I know they're overpriced at this place) and I have to say the 197 pisses all over the 182 I was thinking of getting a 182 but the 197 is better built, more comfortable, feels more grown up.
I didn't have a drive but the 197 would be the choice for me no doubt.
I didn't have a drive but the 197 would be the choice for me no doubt.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
^^that's the area that it falls down for me
Leon Cupra R 225
I guess so for alot of people but I couldn't justify spending near 10k on a 182 when the 172 cup is faster and much cheaper if your after thrills and don't mind a few rattles..
The 197 is just a much better modern car. The salesman was like "I think Renault are going to do a turbo version of the 197"
I fooking hope so!
A 197 is fantastic and brilliant.
Then you drive a 182 and realise why so many lament it. I still like it though.
But It don't feel like it even has half the fizz of a mk2 renaultsport
Then you drive a 182 and realise why so many lament it. I still like it though.
But It don't feel like it even has half the fizz of a mk2 renaultsport
Thats the bloke that everyone said was full of sh*t when he said the CTR was better than the 182.
MINI JCW
Big fan of the 197, looks brilliant, drives brilliant and overall is far superior to the 182.
The two reasons why I didnt buy one are it isnt quite as quick (and it doesnt feel anywhere near as quick) and the price.
I read in Autocar that there is a chance that the 225 engine maybe used in the 197 later on in its life, i guess we will watch this space..
If this happens I will def buy one and I think many on here will as well
The two reasons why I didnt buy one are it isnt quite as quick (and it doesnt feel anywhere near as quick) and the price.
I read in Autocar that there is a chance that the 225 engine maybe used in the 197 later on in its life, i guess we will watch this space..
If this happens I will def buy one and I think many on here will as well
cup 182 mit stripes
^ that bike looks like some kind of Power ranger
It does look a bit distraught.
Nope not going to happen unless it has some real trouble even if they didn't wouldn't be huge turbo as not to hurt Megan sales.
MINI JCW
i guess they may do it after the current megane as been discontinued, as the new megane probably will have 270bhp or so. Lets hope so
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
I like the 197, I found the steering alright at speed.
Had a 197 pull onto the A19 behind me today on my way to work, wanted to get a good look at it cos I've never really seen one on the road. In the rear view mirror it was nothing menacing, thought it would have had a bit more road presence. Pulled across and let him go by, nothing that impressive from the rear either.
IMO, if your going to try and improve a car like the 182, improve it in all areas, especially power and handling, as surely these two areas are the main appeal to buying a renaultsport.
Think I'll stick with my 182 till I save up enough cash to buy my dads 350z!
IMO, if your going to try and improve a car like the 182, improve it in all areas, especially power and handling, as surely these two areas are the main appeal to buying a renaultsport.
Think I'll stick with my 182 till I save up enough cash to buy my dads 350z!
www.renparts.co.uk
the handling of the 197 is better than the 182 though... isn't it?
Geddes
ClioSport Club Member
Fiesta Mk8 ST-3
The trophey is still ment to be the daddy as far as I know
The 197 didn't seem far different to my 172
MKIII 138
top end though it will corners for longer and faster without stepping out and killing you id imagine
at the reno main dealer by me theres a truly mental welsh fella who must b at least 50 years old who is a sales man there!when i bought my 182 and my cousin bought his 225 cup megane he came over to us and started chatting.aftr 5 minutes chatting to this guy u soon realised he has renosport blood runnin through his veins.he has owned 13 rs clios off all types including a few trophies plus some megane 225's in between.his favourite still remains the clio trophy he tells us,the ultimate drivers car he comments.his opinion was that the 197 was a little bit overweight amd that the steering was vague but the cup edition thats gonna b avaible,of what he has one on order should be the right car to own.he also said that he had recieved a news letter saying that a clio turbo was being developed as reno had realised that they could safely get well over 200bhp into a clio and still produce a good car with the 197 chassis as a base.will be fun if it ever comes into production im sure!
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
Comments like that are making me question my sanity in putting mine up for sale!
I'm confused and just don't know what to do! :clown:
D.
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
^^^^ - it's quite a sticky situation that Reno has got itself, imo. Speaking from a purely personal view, the 'successor' to the 182 just isn't that at the moment. I could see the transition from Ph.1 172, then Ph.2, through to the 182 until ultimately, the 182 Trophy. But I'm just left cold with the 197.
The 197 appears to be 'filler car' that they need to complete the range with. And by adding the additional power, are hoping that it will maintain the same appeal as the previous generation models.
I don't think that is quite happening, some how. It may explain the healthy 2nd prices in the 182 market and the dubious scenario where Megane R26's can be acquired for sub-£2k more than the 197 screen price. Between those two, there simply is no comparison.
If Reno did release a Clio Turbo, then where on earth would they price it at? It would have to be more than a 197 but cheaper than a Meggy R26. There's not a lot of room to play about with in terms of price and even then, it would have to be a phenomenal car for me to consider one. Not to mention they would have to do something with the way it looks.
Put bluntly, I wouldn't like the headache that RenaultSport's marketing department would have - assuming the Clio Turbo got the go ahead.
D.
when you look into the pricing off the renosport cars there isnt much between them as darren says.when i went into a renault dealer in birmingham they had a brand new 225 cup in black in the showroom that had got a few extras thrown at it.parked next to it was a clio 197 in red that was bog standard,no luxuries at all,and the megane was, "wait for it!"a whopping £700 more.what would you buy??would be a close call wouldnt it!!.
Nope no need for a turbo only tubro it would ever get is a low pressure one for a GT type car.
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