Shouldn't you probably replace the strut? :S
My bum cheaks would be constantly clenched driving with that one on!
My bum cheaks would be constantly clenched driving with that one on!
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Daniel
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Whichever has fuel
You're going to drive that with one bolt thats been airgunned on???
What if you stretch the thread and it shears under load? Eh?? What then Jason, WHAT THEN????
In all seriousness, replace the strut. Its not worth the risk. I know you're a bit of a weirdo but I don't like threads that start ''CS member is in hospital''.
What if you stretch the thread and it shears under load? Eh?? What then Jason, WHAT THEN????
In all seriousness, replace the strut. Its not worth the risk. I know you're a bit of a weirdo but I don't like threads that start ''CS member is in hospital''.
Jason_E
ClioSport Club Member
Elise, 530d
Well I've been told to airgun it in to get it tight.
But maybe I should just use a giant breaker bar? I can't just "replace the strut" tbh. It's only a flimsy bit of metal that I can bend with my hand thats bent lol! I will just bend it back and tighten it properly. Surely thats not a problem?
EDIT: these are the replies on E38.
"I'd strip it, bend the metal back where its supposed to be, the bolt should have been ok if you tightend# it tight enough. I used to use airgun then 1/2inch ratchet on them.
has it slipped down further into the hub? difficult to see whats actually happened "
"it will be sound just dog it up real good this time "
"easy enough to bend i would think.
*Edit. Kudos on driveshaft scrapeage. lol "
"impact gun the flip out of it, that will tighten it up "
"remove the bolt, clean the thread up with a dye then tight up with a battle rattle gun or air gun. "
The only thing thats gone is that little bit you see bent. If its bent back and tight it wont fall through again. I take it you've looked under a MK4 platform before? Otherwise what I'm saying will be confusing haha.
Jason_E
ClioSport Club Member
Elise, 530d
Originally, it sits in a stupidly tight hub and that bolt tightens it in.
the coils are slightly thinner struts than standard. So you need to tighten it more, I failed massively thinking it was tight as f**k but was actually rusty. Too much weight was supported on that piece of metal you see bent out, which the bolt also goes through. It's held in with one tight as f**k bolt standard, it wasn't tight enough!
http://noahlh.com/car/coilover_howto/
On this guide there's some info to make it clearer! It's confusing as f**k.
the coils are slightly thinner struts than standard. So you need to tighten it more, I failed massively thinking it was tight as f**k but was actually rusty. Too much weight was supported on that piece of metal you see bent out, which the bolt also goes through. It's held in with one tight as f**k bolt standard, it wasn't tight enough!
http://noahlh.com/car/coilover_howto/
On this guide there's some info to make it clearer! It's confusing as f**k.
won't it be weakened though, jaso?
what if it's weakened! it will just bend again, no?
Or does tightening it cure that?
what if it's weakened! it will just bend again, no?
Or does tightening it cure that?
Jason_E
ClioSport Club Member
Elise, 530d
The bending in theory will have weakend it. But it's not really strong in the first place, the main thing is that it's tight as feck. That's why this has happened in the first place!
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
not sarcasm mate, i dunno, not seen them do that before, is that how they bolt at the base?
Jason_E
ClioSport Club Member
Elise, 530d
the bolt goes through it, but the main support is that hub and it has to be stupidly tight. The bit of metal that's bent isnt that strong, its more of a guide so you put the strut in the right amount I think.
According to a guy at VW it should be fine if I bend it back and tighten it really well. New bolt is recommended though!
Ahhh, so the hub being tightened is what actually holds the strut....
I was assuming it was like a Renault, where you just whack two bolts through two holes and it's safe as houses...
Should be OK then tbf!
I was assuming it was like a Renault, where you just whack two bolts through two holes and it's safe as houses...
Should be OK then tbf!
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
i am surprised people are getting funny about this, its completely obvious that the small piece that is bent doesn't do that much (ie hold the strut), its too obviously small and thin to do anything
Audi A4 1.8T Sport
Sump guard should have already been on there
Suspension should have been fitted properly
they can be driven daily.
Audi A4 1.8T Sport
Jason_E
ClioSport Club Member
Elise, 530d
Pretty much! I should have replaced the rusty bolt. My mistake tbh.
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
unlucky on having sh*t-low sumps
the p*ssrats sump is nicely tucked away
the p*ssrats sump is nicely tucked away
Only just seen this! From my past experience I'd feel really uneasy driving that with just the same strut tightened really tight! As you say, coilovers are thinner than standard VW suspension (which are an absolute b**ch to remove and re-insert without a crowbar!) so they need proper tightening.
If it's slipped out the bottom, I don't think I'd be confident that I could get it tight enough so that it can support that corner's weight. The grip is tight, but that tight?
Mk4 diesel sumps are annoyingly low. A shallow GWerks item should be a definite purchase! As well as some drop links / ARB removal to save that driveshaft!
If it's slipped out the bottom, I don't think I'd be confident that I could get it tight enough so that it can support that corner's weight. The grip is tight, but that tight?
Mk4 diesel sumps are annoyingly low. A shallow GWerks item should be a definite purchase! As well as some drop links / ARB removal to save that driveshaft!
Iceberg 172
f**king WW sticker looks stupid unless you're packing some very nice rimmage IMO.
WTF??
^ i thought that (and i dont even know what a spanner is)
you are abit of a clown, thats a given, but regardless of what 'da kewl kidz' say on vw world or whatever, dont bodge that back together lad...
i mean eventually when you have some wheels on there and some decent touches it will be a cool little car, but for now all you do is damage it, put ducks on the back and take photos. and i dont mean to be a cnut saying that as i'm a firm believer in 'live n let live'
i mean no1 can tell you what to do and yeh it fun, but i'd rather check back on this in two months when its got some slick wheels and not read on the news that you are dead or you crash the car due to bolting a suspension component together that gets more stress on it than you can fathom...
you are abit of a clown, thats a given, but regardless of what 'da kewl kidz' say on vw world or whatever, dont bodge that back together lad...
i mean eventually when you have some wheels on there and some decent touches it will be a cool little car, but for now all you do is damage it, put ducks on the back and take photos. and i dont mean to be a cnut saying that as i'm a firm believer in 'live n let live'
i mean no1 can tell you what to do and yeh it fun, but i'd rather check back on this in two months when its got some slick wheels and not read on the news that you are dead or you crash the car due to bolting a suspension component together that gets more stress on it than you can fathom...
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Audi A4 1.8T Sport
cheap coileys + big car = bigger fail
Audi A3
not sure if it was picked up on but when doing it back up insted of just airgunning it and wishing for the best, find the torque figure for it and use a torque wrench to tighten it up properly
Yes, yes it is. The slither of metal slips inside the back of the bracket to keep it in line and the little notch should be where the bolt is fed through.
With that out, I can't think of anything that stops the suspension from rotating within the cup...
Jason_E
ClioSport Club Member
Elise, 530d
Torque rating is irrelivant as the coils are slightly thinner. So it needs to be tighter. Most people tighten it to f**k and have no problems. Was my fail tbh. Its not really dangerous as its been like that for a day and a half of driving and it just squeeks on the driveshaft FLOL
Haven't driven it since I found out though. Its sitting on axle stands until I have time to fix it properly. Its not bodging it back togethor either! Its just doing it how it should have been done in the first place. *sigh* it looks a lot worse than it is if you don't know about the MK4 platform or haven't worked on the suspension.
Haven't driven it since I found out though. Its sitting on axle stands until I have time to fix it properly. Its not bodging it back togethor either! Its just doing it how it should have been done in the first place. *sigh* it looks a lot worse than it is if you don't know about the MK4 platform or haven't worked on the suspension.
Jason_E
ClioSport Club Member
Elise, 530d
Okay, update time. Other posts were from the Blackberry so excuse the hurriedness of them.
Finished work at 8pm, got home 10 mins later. Haven't stopped on the car since then and, well it's pretty much fixed.
Using a combination of K-Rust, wire brush, wire wool and wd40 the bolt threads are like new and the whole thing has been tightened to about 60nm. I probably don't NEED a new bolt, but tomorrow I'm taking a trip to the VW Stealers to be anally raped for one. Just a peace of mind thing, although my Dad's mechanic friend who happens to be here tonight says it's absolutely fine.
So that's that sorted. I tested it down a quiet bumpy road and the only thing that I could hear was the familiar sound of driveshaft on Chassis.
@ Some of the earlier comments. The ARB HAS been removed, if MOT guy gets funny about it (It's 50/50 whether they pull you up on it) I'll shove an R32 one in there on longer droplinks..
I respect your opinion Naith, don't worry about offending me there's been harsher stuff said! Some tidy wheels will be on it next month time. I don't earn that much money and I don't like spending it ALL on my car, tend to keep a bit back. So I'll get some wheels next month. Then I will only do little bits here and there, next big thing after wheels will be a leather interior (probably off a GTI, there's a cream one that will be coming out of someone I know's Golf soon).
So that's about it for now. Much love x
Finished work at 8pm, got home 10 mins later. Haven't stopped on the car since then and, well it's pretty much fixed.
Using a combination of K-Rust, wire brush, wire wool and wd40 the bolt threads are like new and the whole thing has been tightened to about 60nm. I probably don't NEED a new bolt, but tomorrow I'm taking a trip to the VW Stealers to be anally raped for one. Just a peace of mind thing, although my Dad's mechanic friend who happens to be here tonight says it's absolutely fine.
So that's that sorted. I tested it down a quiet bumpy road and the only thing that I could hear was the familiar sound of driveshaft on Chassis.
@ Some of the earlier comments. The ARB HAS been removed, if MOT guy gets funny about it (It's 50/50 whether they pull you up on it) I'll shove an R32 one in there on longer droplinks..
I respect your opinion Naith, don't worry about offending me there's been harsher stuff said! Some tidy wheels will be on it next month time. I don't earn that much money and I don't like spending it ALL on my car, tend to keep a bit back. So I'll get some wheels next month. Then I will only do little bits here and there, next big thing after wheels will be a leather interior (probably off a GTI, there's a cream one that will be coming out of someone I know's Golf soon).
So that's about it for now. Much love x
