The cup

[Ex-User (99307)]

Some background first..

A couple of months ago I started putting the ph1 together with the new angled DCOE setup to replace my current OBX bodies and I happened upon a problem. With a filter I was just outside the car! Unfortunately the space at the front just wasn't going to work so I needed a way to get more. Phase 2 time then!

The V6 is away for quite a bit of work currently so something to double as a run-around while it's away then get built into an ITB's monster was the goal

Always fancied a cup so I had a look around the classifieds etc and they really have appreciated over the last year or two! Saw a few ropey ones but couldn't find one I wanted. Thought I'd pm @Daniel on the off chance he knew of any having bought from him in the past and knowing he doesn't buy shite.

Low and behold he had one that was mid way through recommissioning, the rest is history!

Here's the car as it arrived to me, all it needs to be perfect is a set of arch liners, little bit of paint (bumpers and bonnet), a screen and some miles putting on it. Oh, and the correct pillar badges because I'm a bit of an OCD c*nt.

 

[Bluebeard]

And you need an undertray. Which is still in the wrapping in the back of my car.... 🤦‍♂️

can’t wait to see where this goes. You’re certainly not shy on spending money on your cars!

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

I was a little late in my first post so a few bits got done Yesterday...

Yesterday it had B14s installed, PMS rear anti roll bar (19mm) and a PMS front strut brace and solid top mounts.

Chucked it all in the car to take to a mate's workshop.

The PMS RARB needs the rear beam to come down on one side, apparently this has become a hot spot for rust on these cars. Not this one! The captive bolts were an absolute pain but we got it done along with the rear B14 springs and shocks, I know some remove the adjuster for the lows

but mine are set about 3/4 down it for the ride height I wanted.

Did find a little rust, I'll get it sorted when it goes in for the other bodywork, inside the rear arches is mint however.

Fronts and the front brace went on easy, I'm trying out a proprietary coilover anti corrosion spray to see if it's worth a friend marketing it.

Put it on the tracking setup, it'll need re-doing because I forgot to buy camber bolts (now ordered). The rear beam on this one is superb, the sides are within a minute of each-other, one of the best I've ever seen and crazy on a 92k hot hatch!

Not a huge change in ride height over the apex springs but the way it drives is night and day, supple and perfect for the road. It's a little tramliney but I'm hoping we can sort that next it goes in for tracking.

Did intend to fit my Brembo conversion and DS1.11 pads but unfortunately we spend ages getting the rear beam down and ran out of time.

Next up - Brembos, quaife'd box, ttv flywheel. They're all sat downstairs waiting for a free ramp!

 

[dave120]

Looks like a good example. Great buy.

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Looks like a good example. Great buy.

Thank you! It is a nice one, can't be many decent ones left.

 

[Kosy]

Cracker and you’ve not wasted any time on it! Impressive progress.

 

[Louis]

And you need an undertray. Which is still in the wrapping in the back of my car.... 🤦‍♂️

You monster.

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Disaster struck yesterday! Did you know the AA don't take you in the van now? PITA.

Dragged back to a mate's workshop, diff circlip, my bad

Could just fit a new circlip but I had a few bits lying around so I guess they'll get thrown on tomorrow....

Ex Sharky gearbox with a quaife in it, freshly rebuilt by Frank Rizutti of Avanti Motorsport, TTV flywheel, standard clutch and flywheel bolts and 5L of Titan gearbox oil.

 

[frayz]

Nice to see one getting some high quality parts, watching with interest

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

It's home.

Fitted some 1.2 bullets I've sprayed black and drilled the airbox like a pikey!

Box feels great and the TTV has freed up the revs a lot.

Coilover spray I'm testing is holding up nicely too.

 

[Mbeau]

They way the car revs with a lightened flywheel is awsome. Some excellent mods you have already done too. Bilstein B14'S are excellent too, would like to get a set for my recently acquired Cup.

Looks awsome 👍

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Still chasing down an occasional misfire and shaking the car down before I start on the ITB conversion.

Today fitted magnecors, spare coil, fresh plugs (ones that came out were grim) a vibratechnics top engine mount and a walbro 255lph pump (had a non sport pump fitted bizarrely)

Made it worse. Much worse. Joy.

 

[Mbeau]

Is it still on the original injectors? If so probably a good chance it is one of those!

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Apparently done in the last thousand miles. If it was injectors that'd be ideal, already have 225 ones in the bodies.

 

[Bluebeard]

Apparently done in the last thousand miles. If it was injectors that'd be ideal, already have 225 ones in the bodies.

Injectors fitted were the ones that were in my van.
I acquired a set of brand new ones so fitted them to my van last year and the ones that were already on it went in my mates toolbox for spares. They then went in your Cup when the original ones started playing silly buggers.
Now whilst they were working perfectly just before they were removed, they weren’t ‘new’. So entirely possible they’re your culprit.

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Right then, original misfire was the coil pack.

The new misfire/made it worse was the walbro kinking it's fuel hose and running dry.

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Well it's not been the brightest day of ownership today.

Went to drop the Mrs (no) to work this morning and the car made a loud rattle and came to an abrupt stop in my road.

Initially thought a dropped valve however on bringing it back in and investigating the bolts on the alternator were loose meaning the belt tension was only held on the anemic adjuster bolt which of course sheared under the tension and it threw the alternator belt into the cambelt.

Although I do have a decent engine in the ph1 I was actually hoping to use this engine for the build as when compression tested this one showed an even 210 bar across all cylinders and it felt to be a strong one. Probably going to whip the head off and replace the valves.

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

You can tell I spend too much time around airguns. 210 psi!

 

[yeecup]

thats s**t mate. hope u get it sorted. been there with my old ph1. 16 bent valves.

 

[Bluebeard]

Ffs! 🤦‍♂️

 

[jameswrx]

Shame about the belt!

You can tell I spend too much time around airguns. 210 psi!

More importantly... What guns you got?

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Shame about the belt!



More importantly... What guns you got?

Far too many 🤣 red wolf, Logun MK2, ultishot, lgv, tx200sr are a few highlights!

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Guess what I drove home last night...

Luckily a mate had a spare head so that's gone on, seems to be running well, compression and leakdown all good so hopefully we're back on track.

Friend was doing it on lunch breaks etc at the garage he works at so it's taken a little while.

In other news my Maxx street ECU and a set of 438s have arrived..

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

First wash!

Scrubs up alright.

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Warm + rainy has been a nightmare ina car with no AC.

Fitted some team hekos and they've helped a fair bit.

 

[Krarl]

Cliosport nonces are about to go into meltdown about the wind deflectors

Luckily you've got a shotgun so you can threaten em to stop being little nesh t***s🤣🤣

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Fitted the pms exhaust today. They've changed a fair bit since I last had one, quality has gone down imo.

Took some great pictures definitely wasn't annoyed with the cat to manifold being a pain in the bum on these and forgot 🙄🙄

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Oh, and the fitting for the pms exhaust actually came in that Tesco freezer bag. Wtf pms.

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

Pms stuff really isn't what it was. The welds look gash . It's nice and quiet but the build quality is shocking compared to what it was a few years ago.

Went off to the shop today and the exhaust was rattling and squeaking badly enough I couldn't hear myself think.

Looked under and the mount touches the exhaust, wtf pms, when you cheapened up the build you didn't check it would all work still?

A sweaty/sweary half hour under the car on the driveway later I made a spacer stack of oversized nuts and washers and put it between the hanger and the body to space it out. Yes I buy monster by the case, no I do not wear a snapback.

 

[yeecup]

thats piss poor from pms tbf. i would let them know.

 

[Krarl]

Jesus

Someone that doesn't bum over PMS on here?! Any post I see about their exhausts people just rip their c**k off, its like they're Nick's lovechild🤣🤣

 

[dave120]

Pretty shocking fitment considering PMS stuff is so expensive. Barely any better than having the standard exhaust!

 

[Breamy]

I had to bend that mount on mine too. The rattle against the back box is very irritating

 

[RustyMojo]

That’s massively s**t really isn’t it.

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

thats piss poor from pms tbf. i would let them know.

On that

I had to bend that mount on mine too. The rattle against the back box is very irritating

I thought about doing the same but mine was quite springy, have had to tighten it up once but it's now loctited, seems to have done the job.

It does sound good but tbh if you'd put it on front of me and asked the manufacturer I would have said £250 eBay random.

 

[avstar1]

I wonder if they switched fabricators as there was a period of time where you couldn't order an exhaust for a couple of months

 

[Breamy]

Could have. Mine was one of the first bath after you couldn't get one for a while

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

I wonder if they switched fabricators as there was a period of time where you couldn't order an exhaust for a couple of months

Could have. Mine was one of the first bath after you couldn't get one for a while

Used to be phoenix in Cullompton

 

[Ex-User (99307)]

New rubber is here!

 

[Mr Underhill]

Pms stuff really isn't what it was. The welds look gash . It's nice and quiet but the build quality is shocking compared to what it was a few years ago.

Went off to the shop today and the exhaust was rattling and squeaking badly enough I couldn't hear myself think.

Looked under and the mount touches the exhaust, wtf pms, when you cheapened up the build you didn't check it would all work still?

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Agree. I have two PMS systems. The rubber mounts are shocking. I use the genuine VW/Audi ones now. I've complained but now't gets done.