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The Watercooled PC Appreciation Thread...
- Thread starter Gareth
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I run my i5 750 at 4GHz without any issue on the H50. Cant remember the temps. I play about with it all when I first get my PC but once its been stress tested thats it I leave it alone. I had it running 4.2GHz but started getting problems with my s**tty ram.
Was very easy to put together and I think for an all in one solution its great. I run a push pull setup on the radiator though and I thought out the airflow in this case properly.
Im not saying its amazing. Id love a proper watercooled setup but it doesnt really suite my budget.......rather spend the extra on clothes or something.
Some proper cool setups in here though, kudos to you guys! Keep them coming.
I had one watercooled pc, was a very cheap set up and i got bored of it because the pump was s**t, always wanted to overclock but never been bothered to learn how... however always build my own pcs, but over time became more interested in my car and mechanics than making sure the inside of my pc was windowed with lights etc...
Few of my favorite builds, none are mine:
One day when i can afford it ill build a nice quiet running pc, or tbh buy a mac.
Few of my favorite builds, none are mine:
One day when i can afford it ill build a nice quiet running pc, or tbh buy a mac.
Lol, "so, I built this awwwwwsome PC and then I, like, carried them outside for some photos...."
They all look obscenely cool, in a geeky way, but I don't really get 'it'.
You must seriously like playing computer games to spunk this kind of money on a machine that plays computer games.
My latest machine was only around £2500, but I could easily have spent twice that. No problem. It wouldn't have given me twice the frames in-game though. In fact it wouldn't have given me any extra at all really.
Crikey. And how long before that spec become 'out of date'?
I'm all for buying the best I can afford with everything, but that seems a bit OTT. Like you said, there isn't a linear improvement with the amount of cash spent.
My mate built a water cooled system, and its very impressive, but I can't justify one for CS and facebook :/
I'm all for buying the best I can afford with everything, but that seems a bit OTT. Like you said, there isn't a linear improvement with the amount of cash spent.
My mate built a water cooled system, and its very impressive, but I can't justify one for CS and facebook :/
Indeed mate, and your system is immense. Although, I very much doubt you would see a benefit over my half-priced heap in-game. I know you know that though, and I'm sure you know that I know that you can't diss a no compromise system. Respect!
makes my setup look boring!
I don't see the need mate TBH. It runs Crysis on ultra everything with lashings of AA & AF, at 1920x1200, at a vync 60fps all the time. Everywhere. Never shows any signs of dropping a single frame, not even in the game's most notoriously rig crippling levels. Same for Crysis 2 DX11. I think 4.4Ghz is fine for now lol
Maybe when I move up to 2560 resolutions, but even then, the extra stress will be on my GFX cards.
LY 220 Trophy+IB PH1
God I feel old, got my big water 775 system about 4-5 years ago and still going strong, never ever had any issues with it and my reasoning at the time of purchase was heavy overclocking in a silent case, managed to get my 1.6 dual core to 3.4 stable :clap:
No pics to hand but will get some in a mo
Out of curiosity what is the lowest temps people have had ? 2 winters ago our boilder died and the house was freeing and I managed a 8 degree temp on both core - a temp I've never since matched lol
No pics to hand but will get some in a mo
Out of curiosity what is the lowest temps people have had ? 2 winters ago our boilder died and the house was freeing and I managed a 8 degree temp on both core - a temp I've never since matched lol
I idle at around 40c, but I'm clocked on my i7 950 @ 4.2Ghz constant, so slightly higher than Stock
Max i've seen is around 68c, but that's only because of how i have my fan controller curve setup, i prefer quiet!
Max i've seen is around 68c, but that's only because of how i have my fan controller curve setup, i prefer quiet!
God I feel old, got my big water 775 system about 4-5 years ago and still going strong, never ever had any issues with it and my reasoning at the time of purchase was heavy overclocking in a silent case, managed to get my 1.6 dual core to 3.4 stable :clap:
No pics to hand but will get some in a mo
Out of curiosity what is the lowest temps people have had ? 2 winters ago our boilder died and the house was freeing and I managed a 8 degree temp on both core - a temp I've never since matched lol
To be fair the 775 based CPU's are still very good. I have my main i7 rig for gaming but I have my Q6600 rig at my other home and that has a 560 TI in it. Still runs everything you can throw at it.
welshname
ClioSport Club Member
Fatality sound card?
Touch wood, I think I have solved a BSOD issue that I've been randomly having for a while. Once it's sorted I think I may think about adding a bespoke water loop, with my new found enthusiasm. CPU only to begin with. My case is massive so there's plenty of room inside.
I managed to trace the BSOD to the hard drive, so updated the firmware (OCZ Vertex 3 SSD) thinking yay this will now be sorted, but it didn't help. If anything it got worse. This morning I flashed the mobo BIOS and (TOUCH wood) it's been running fine ever since...
I managed to trace the BSOD to the hard drive, so updated the firmware (OCZ Vertex 3 SSD) thinking yay this will now be sorted, but it didn't help. If anything it got worse. This morning I flashed the mobo BIOS and (TOUCH wood) it's been running fine ever since...
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
Ironically, the need to constantly replace hardware has slowed down greatly. As more and more games become multi-platform (frustratingly so for PC owners) - the games get held back from a technological perspective, in order to function on the consoles.
Owning an uber-PC (which unfortunately, I don't!) is comparable to owning a Veyron. It can still only do 70mph legally (to keep inline with the masses) - but free to unleash itself, the sheer power of these things is amazing. And how boring would it be if everyone drove a car capable of just 70mph?
D.
So true Darren. Game makers are out to make money, so therefore to make the most money they need to make games multi-platform. Quite simply the consoles are holding game makers back, that's why Crysis 1 was so special. It was literally a spit in the face of consoles at the time. Now they need to "dumb down" all new games to comply with the poor performance of game consoles :dapprove:
LY 220 Trophy+IB PH1
Ive got the same beef with the Agi 3 (Shares Sandforce controller with the vertex I believe) every now and then I get a DMI pool data error - Pain in the ass!
C*NT. It just BSOD'd again. The only way I can prove this now is to install windows properly on another drive and use it for a few days. Pain in the arse.
Does it randomly. Can play games and stress it for hours on end. Then leave it idling and it'll be fine. Then leave it alone again and come back to BSOD. Getting on my teets.
Does it randomly. Can play games and stress it for hours on end. Then leave it idling and it'll be fine. Then leave it alone again and come back to BSOD. Getting on my teets.
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
Yep - what we really need out now is an XBox 720 and PS4 to be released! Kick-start some wow-factor into the mix.
In all seriousness though, I don't mind consoles. I've got a 360 myself and think that Forza 4 is great and I'm really liking the new Batman AC game on it. I just get my back up when games (especially those born and bred on the PC platform) have been watered down and nerfed to cater for the mass console market - especially regarding the control inputs. Nothing rattles me more than the insidious 'aim assist' functions that appear alarmingly often within Options menus these days. For pure PC games, that's borderline blasphemy - and a clear-cut case that twiddling with the thumbs simply isn't a patch on the accuracy bestowed by a mouse.
We have the hardware, the technology and the brute ability to push games forward with so much more. But when held back by id's Tech 5 (and the like) to provide cross-platform functionality - I think progress is stifled. Even id's own proposal for Rage initially had 150GB of textures in it. PC owners would shrug their shoulders and get on with that - yet nearly 130GB of those textures were compromised in order for the game to be more console friendly. Simple things like that annoy me - where impressive feats of software engineering and creativity have to be reeled-back in order to function on old kit. Again, that's simply holding back change and progress and a complete hindrance to what the PC platform is all about.
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If you can get me the memory.dmp I could take a look for you. Should be in the windows folder.
welshname
ClioSport Club Member
Yep - what we really need out now is an XBox 720 and PS4 to be released! Kick-start some wow-factor into the mix.
In all seriousness though, I don't mind consoles. I've got a 360 myself and think that Forza 4 is great and I'm really liking the new Batman AC game on it. I just get my back up when games (especially those born and bred on the PC platform) have been watered down and nerfed to cater for the mass console market - especially regarding the control inputs. Nothing rattles me more than the insidious 'aim assist' functions that appear alarmingly often within Options menus these days. For pure PC games, that's borderline blasphemy - and a clear-cut case that twiddling with the thumbs simply isn't a patch on the accuracy bestowed by a mouse.
We have the hardware, the technology and the brute ability to push games forward with so much more. But when held back by id's Tech 5 (and the like) to provide cross-platform functionality - I think progress is stifled. Even id's own proposal for Rage initially had 150GB of textures in it. PC owners would shrug their shoulders and get on with that - yet nearly 130GB of those textures were compromised in order for the game to be more console friendly. Simple things like that annoy me - where impressive feats of software engineering and creativity have to be reeled-back in order to function on old kit. Again, that's simply holding back change and progress and a complete hindrance to what the PC platform is all about.
D.
Never a truer word spoken.
It infuriates me that consoles are now the main target when releasing a new game. I remember having an argument with a friend when the PS3 came out because he tried to tell me a PC was no where near as capable as one. I refuse to play FPS on console, it's not skill based at all. Hense why I'm stuck in the age old ways of CS: Source, 1.6, HL2 (although with the new updates to CS: Source I've gone of that majorly too, if I wanted to play TF2 style games, I'd buy TF2.)
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
its years since i played with water cooling, infact last time i did was a Socket A AMD Athlon 2500-M chip when i was about 15! how quiet are pumps etc these days and how small a setup can you use?
basically i need something silent/ultra quiet as my internet machine, im currently running a fully passive cooled dual core Atom 1.8ghz @ 2GHz with 4gb of ram and a SSD but to be honest its struggling to cut it these days even for web use with HD video and advanced websites etc
basically i need something silent/ultra quiet as my internet machine, im currently running a fully passive cooled dual core Atom 1.8ghz @ 2GHz with 4gb of ram and a SSD but to be honest its struggling to cut it these days even for web use with HD video and advanced websites etc
Yep - what we really need out now is an XBox 720 and PS4 to be released! Kick-start some wow-factor into the mix.
In all seriousness though, I don't mind consoles. I've got a 360 myself and think that Forza 4 is great and I'm really liking the new Batman AC game on it. I just get my back up when games (especially those born and bred on the PC platform) have been watered down and nerfed to cater for the mass console market - especially regarding the control inputs. Nothing rattles me more than the insidious 'aim assist' functions that appear alarmingly often within Options menus these days. For pure PC games, that's borderline blasphemy - and a clear-cut case that twiddling with the thumbs simply isn't a patch on the accuracy bestowed by a mouse.
We have the hardware, the technology and the brute ability to push games forward with so much more. But when held back by id's Tech 5 (and the like) to provide cross-platform functionality - I think progress is stifled. Even id's own proposal for Rage initially had 150GB of textures in it. PC owners would shrug their shoulders and get on with that - yet nearly 130GB of those textures were compromised in order for the game to be more console friendly. Simple things like that annoy me - where impressive feats of software engineering and creativity have to be reeled-back in order to function on old kit. Again, that's simply holding back change and progress and a complete hindrance to what the PC platform is all about.
D.
Tech 5 has a lot more that it can do. Unfortunately Rage had to be held back to keep a 60 ish FPS count on the consoles. They have said Doom 4 will push the engine harder and consoles will be getting 30FPS max with it, PC's if they have decent enough GPU's might be able to push 60FPS. Apparently the engine can scale up quite a lot. I think with the PC gamers being so upset with Rage it might push them back to making a decent PC title again. I mean they abandoned their original market and it didn't work out well for them really. Doom has always been first and foremost a PC title. Hopefully they will do the same thing with the next instalment.
I remember when Doom 3 came out and it was like Crysis back then. Just crippled rigs that were not high end. Hopefully they do the same with Doom4.
Thanks for the kind offer. Unfortunately it's nearly 500mb. TBH I can probably get the debugging tools myself but it all sounds like a royal PITA and I'm unsure I would be able to interpret the results anyway.
It is actually far less frequent now. It also never happens when I'm using the PC, only when it's idling, so it's not actually a show stopper, but it does put a bit of a grey cloud over an otherwise epic PC. The performance is mental, and it never ever ever crashes when it's stressed, even for hours on end. Leave it alone overnight and it's certain to BSOD by the morning. Although this morning it's just fine...wishful thinking. It's probably on fire now as I type this
Anyway this is all going rather off topic
Evo 5 RS
Vertex 3s? On phone now so can't check firmware, it's SATA timing issue, latest firmware should fix it. Maybe chipset issue also, should keep them on the ich controller or they have a hissy. Fast drives but total crock, don't think il be buying them again
Evo 5 RS
Again as above, are you using the ICH intel controller, mantis?
Depending on your board, the Marvel SATA 3.0 controller and some others are no where near as quick as they should be, as they use the PCI-E bus. It's really quite shoddy on earlier adopted boards. I get no more than 200mb/s in RAID0 on the Marvel controller but over 500mb/s on the ICH Sata 2 bus
Depending on your board, the Marvel SATA 3.0 controller and some others are no where near as quick as they should be, as they use the PCI-E bus. It's really quite shoddy on earlier adopted boards. I get no more than 200mb/s in RAID0 on the Marvel controller but over 500mb/s on the ICH Sata 2 bus
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
I can vouch for that - I don't see any benefit on my 1TB O/S drive over a previous SATAII offering. Probably would see something in benchmarks, but in real-world terms, I don't notice it!
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