Tied between either 197 or Cup version

[Russy B]

I decided that i'm going to either have one of the 2 cars, either brand new or not far off.

I know the differences between the 2 as well

1. Anybody got any experiences with these, regarding problems, good points, bad points etc etc

2. Anyone in the Wolverhampton area who wouldn't mind me just taking a look at one when i went to renault yesterday, the closest one they had was leicester and that is coming over so i can test drive it next week. i would like to see them in different colours as looking at them in a book/internet doesn't really do anything justice, so if anyone is willing, i'mnot asking for a test drive at all, just a viewing.

Thanks a lot for any feedback

Russ

 

[ForceIndia]

The big difference between a cupped 197 and a 197 cup is cost. If money's not an issue, go for a 197 with cup pack, drives identical to the 197 cup. I'd get a late R27, cup chassis, Recaro's, revised gearbox.

 

[Yosemite Sam]

I don't see the point in having a cup tbh.

s**t interior, s**t plastics, the worst steering wheel known to man and will be dire resale in 2/3 years time.

Either get a normal 197, R27 or a 197 with cup packs.

 

[Beef-Mc]

Just go staright for an R27.

That's what i would do tbh.

 

[alanc1000]

there are a few white 197s with high spec appearing now, so you can have the best of both worlds.

57 / 08 R27s and newer 08 cup packed 197s are about the same price. 08 R27s are an absolute nightmare to track down though, but these will have the better gaering ratios, even though in reality the difference isn't massive.

 

[Mr Burns]

I don't see the point in having a cup tbh.

s**t interior, s**t plastics, the worst steering wheel known to man and will be dire resale in 2/3 years time.

Either get a normal 197, R27 or a 197 with cup packs.

+1

Why settle for less? Mine's on H&R springs and I live in Cannock. I'm happy to take you a spin!

 

[MikeLYR27]

there are a few white 197s with high spec appearing now, so you can have the best of both worlds.

57 / 08 R27s and newer 08 cup packed 197s are about the same price. 08 R27s are an absolute nightmare to track down though, but these will have the better gaering ratios, even though in reality the difference isn't massive.

It might not have better gearing tho, you waill have to find out the number of the car first, if its above 440/500 (i think) then it will have the new gearbox. tbh i dont think it makes a lot of difference tho, mines the old one and i do get good economy out of it. I dont think the 197's are that bad on fuel, just drive it sensibly if you want better mpg lol!

R27 is the best option tho.

Wouldnt bother buying new at the mo unless the deal was awsome!

 

[alanc1000]

^^ yeah deffo no need to buy new, plenty of them are out there now for sale.

You can easily get 30mpg combined on the 197s with the older box like mine, and thats with me doing a daily commute in traffic.

An R27 would deffo be the best option too IMO

 

[mark1989]

alot of usefull info in this thread i was woundering the same as you Russbelluk but have decided on a r27 or if i cant find a good 1 a cup packed 197 which i hope to purchase late july. a couldnt condone spending 10-11k + and just get the basics ill be wanting good spec for my coin as will you i presume

 

[Revels]

R27 fo sure.

 

[MikeLYR27]

^^ yeah deffo no need to buy new, plenty of them are out there now for sale.

You can easily get 30mpg combined on the 197s with the older box like mine, and thats with me doing a daily commute in traffic.

An R27 would deffo be the best option too IMO

Yeah i get about the same, includes a bit if foot to the floor as well

Filling with v-power or any higher octane fuel is a must imo with these cars. Feels a lot better, and a definate increase in fuel range/mpg. The best i have achieved is 410 miles out of mine. That was 4 100mile runs to london, cruise control ftw

 

[Fletcher]

I prefer the 197 cup.

 

[MikeLYR27]

You prefer the same car but a lesser spec!?:S

 

[ForceIndia]

You prefer the same car but a lesser spec!?:S

Yeah Fletcher, how dare you have an opinion!

 

[Fletcher]

Yeah Fletcher, how dare you have an opinion!

Yes mate :rasp:

 

[quattro44]

A white 197 Cup with Gloss black wheels looks ace.

But air-con and Recaros are a must IMO, so it would need to be specced-up.

 

[Craig]

I don't see the point in having a cup tbh.

s**t interior, s**t plastics, the worst steering wheel known to man and will be dire resale in 2/3 years time.

Either get a normal 197, R27 or a 197 with cup packs.

+1

 

[trailerparktrev]

It doesn't matter what version you get, all 197s are great. But then so are 182/172s too.

 

[bmh.01]

The cup is far too poverty for me, daniel sums it up nicely really.

 

[ant_r27]

I don't see the point in having a cup tbh.

s**t interior, s**t plastics, the worst steering wheel known to man and will be dire resale in 2/3 years time.

Either get a normal 197, R27 or a 197 with cup packs.

+1

I hate the steering wheel in the cup. The FF has a lovely chunky item.

And although keyless entry/go sounds bit pointless, once u have it u'll never know how u did without it.

I used to have an r27, but am back to normal keys in the Twingo. Lost count the number of times i try to open the door without unlocking the car.

 

[ForceIndia]

Not wanting to start the usual CS war, but the prices you'll be looking at, the Meg R26 becomes an option.

 

[Craig]

^ true some of the prices of them are shocking imo

 

[aberdeen172sport]

just go for what u think looks best and has the extras that u want (interior, air con), coz to be honest there isnt that difference performance wise!

 

[MikeLYR27]

Yeah Fletcher, how dare you have an opinion!

PMSL! touchy

 

[Russy B]

From what ive been thinking and from the feedback, i'm gonna go for a 197 with the cup pack on it. The R27 are too rare, the 197s are rare as it is.

When i went to renault friday, i managed to get down to £13,700 for a brand new 197 from £15000 list price and i reckon that i could say to them if u put the cup pack in then i might take it for £13700, or if not i'll just go for the test drive on saturday, walk away and have a look at some of these websites that sell new ones on there.

Also now, my dad wants one now too, even more barganing power, i bet renault don't get many people walk in and say they want 2 197s do they???

Has anyone heard or had any experience with broadspeed.com, dealdrivers.co.uk, drivethedeal.com, autobytel.com

Cheers for the feedback so far

 

[trailerparktrev]

If you're now thinking of buying new are you not tempted to wait until May for the facelifted Clio? The GT spec publicity photos look great.

 

[Fletcher]

From what ive been thinking and from the feedback, i'm gonna go for a 197 with the cup pack on it. The R27 are too rare, the 197s are rare as it is.

When i went to renault friday, i managed to get down to £13,700 for a brand new 197 from £15000 list price and i reckon that i could say to them if u put the cup pack in then i might take it for £13700, or if not i'll just go for the test drive on saturday, walk away and have a look at some of these websites that sell new ones on there.

Also now, my dad wants one now too, even more barganing power, i bet renault don't get many people walk in and say they want 2 197s do they???

Has anyone heard or had any experience with broadspeed.com, dealdrivers.co.uk, drivethedeal.com, autobytel.com

Cheers for the feedback so far

I'd speak to Marc Elgar at inchcape Renault soton, as he gives good discounts on RS models.

 

[Russy B]

i'm gonna what else i can get out of him as i've already got £2300 off the list price, just by referring to some of the websites i listed and i still think that he WILL NOT want to lose this sale as it will be for 2 197s

 

[ben_r1]

The cups the true drivers car.

By far nothing wrong with a normal 197 though, cant go wrong either way IMO

 

[Fletcher]

^^^did you get yours fixed then??

 

[Munson]

Nimbus r27 = best looking clio ever made.

 

[Gaz_]

Yep. Its funny though, because without the Red calipers and Anthricite wheels, they look plain as hell...... In dull british weather theres nothing about them. There are some fantastic pics of Nimbus from our oversea's chums

 

[ben_r1]

^^^did you get yours fixed then??

Had it back two weeks now, and making up for the lost time lol :rasp:

 

[Fletcher]

Had it back two weeks now, and making up for the lost time lol :rasp:

Good stuff mate, white cups are great :approve:

 

[.GAZ.]

white 197FF mit recaro's.. DONE!

 

[ben_r1]

Good stuff mate, white cups are great :approve:

+ They look wicked

- Try keeping em that way in this weather

Seriously i bought my car back from the jet wash ( about 1.5miles ) and it was already too dirty to polish...

 

[Fletcher]

+ They look wicked

- Try keeping em that way in this weather

Seriously i bought my car back from the jet wash ( about 1.5miles ) and it was already too dirty to polish...

Yep, that's the problem with white cars

 

[Munson]

I'm pretty sure it would have been just as dirty if it was any other colour?

 

[Fletcher]

I'm pretty sure it would have been just as dirty if it was any other colour?

Yes but it wouldn't have looked as dirty, my white van looks filthy compared to my silver clio.

 

[Munson]

Yes but it wouldn't have looked as dirty, my white van looks filthy compared to my silver clio.

Yeah but he was talking about polishing it. So the colour makes no difference in that example TBH.