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Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
Oh i see...
My comment was directed at trying to keep white cars clean, not at polishing them.
Can't be arsed to give a long winded response but the Cup is hardly poverty. It's already far nicer inside than a 172/182 and massively better put together. I had the so called luxury of a 172 and 182, then went to the poverty spec Trophy, which is basically the same level of interior as the Cup, but you don't hear people slatting the Trophy interior. At no point have I ever stroked my dashboard and thought "god I wish that was softer".
There's thing a 197 Cup really lacks, electric heated wing mirrors with a blind spot mirror.
The wheel isn't as nice as in a normal 197, but believe it or not, neither is the wheel in the R26.R which is about the same size and thickness as the one in the Cup.
People saying that it's got a s**t dash with s**t plastics are basically slating the vast majority of the Clio range, as it's the same dash as most Clios!!
If you can find a nice R27 at a decent price I'd got for that. If not check out a 197 and 197 Cup and see what you think. At the very least you want to get the Cup pack on a normal 197, unless you intend to modify it, and I'd not buy without Recaros either.
I love the OTT reactions from people on here. Anyone would think driving a Cup was as bad as being arse raped dry or that they would rather cut their wrists. lol
Personally I prefer the look of the Cup, the slightly less class look suits it IMO.
BTW, I've sent you a PM regarding someone who might be able to do you a deal.
There's thing a 197 Cup really lacks, electric heated wing mirrors with a blind spot mirror.
The wheel isn't as nice as in a normal 197, but believe it or not, neither is the wheel in the R26.R which is about the same size and thickness as the one in the Cup.
People saying that it's got a s**t dash with s**t plastics are basically slating the vast majority of the Clio range, as it's the same dash as most Clios!!
If you can find a nice R27 at a decent price I'd got for that. If not check out a 197 and 197 Cup and see what you think. At the very least you want to get the Cup pack on a normal 197, unless you intend to modify it, and I'd not buy without Recaros either.
I love the OTT reactions from people on here. Anyone would think driving a Cup was as bad as being arse raped dry or that they would rather cut their wrists. lol
Personally I prefer the look of the Cup, the slightly less class look suits it IMO.
BTW, I've sent you a PM regarding someone who might be able to do you a deal.
Interesting comment about the Trophy, Lee. I've often smiled when threads slate Cups as being poverty spec rip-offs, and yet the same people are wanking off over the Trophy. I don't think I've ever seen a Trophy get slated for having washer blanks and no xenons.
Back on the subject of Cups in general, people seem to think that cheaper is bad, and that their 182 is a limo because it has vinyl chairs and casio climate control. I'd take any 197 over a 182 chav wagon with it's plastic seats and melted steering wheel.
Back on the subject of Cups in general, people seem to think that cheaper is bad, and that their 182 is a limo because it has vinyl chairs and casio climate control. I'd take any 197 over a 182 chav wagon with it's plastic seats and melted steering wheel.
Roffle, the best example of that is the tailgate on my 182. When I close it, it feels like it's made out of old soup tins.
It's double standards and people making comments purely to get a reaction most the time. The Trophy interior is identical to the Cup, only with Recaros.
I can see why people prefer the standard 197 interior, but I can live without painted plastic round the speaker grills and switches. And I don't care what people who are in my car think, plus they tend to be too scared to speak.
It's actually a fair bit thinner. If you compare them side by side the standard wheel is nicer. But then the Megane R26.R makes do with a skinny wheel!
Cant put it any better than Lee did really. I looked at buying both a 197 and a 197 cup, in the end I bought the cup as I didnt think a 'fullfat' 197 was worth the extra because I was buying the car to drive it, not for gadgets.
If Lee has recommended who I think he has, she is brilliant and did me a deal than the famous Mark Elgar could do!
If Lee has recommended who I think he has, she is brilliant and did me a deal than the famous Mark Elgar could do!
I think the 197Cup can be had online for as little as £12,000. That's a LOT of car for the money. The high rollers seem to think paying more is better though. Personally I would go for full fat, but that's based on my current circumstances. IMO you can't go wrong a 197Cup for circa 12 large.
how often do you actually touch your dashboard? not often
its a case of, do you want to spec climate control or xenons or cornering lights, and do you want push button start and keyless entry. if the answer to any of those is yes then its got to be a 197. if the answer is, no i dont want any of those then save some money and buy a cup.
its a case of, do you want to spec climate control or xenons or cornering lights, and do you want push button start and keyless entry. if the answer to any of those is yes then its got to be a 197. if the answer is, no i dont want any of those then save some money and buy a cup.
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
What dealership does she work at??
yhpm
Was a 197
pm me and i'll see if i can beat what ever they offer u
i'll let u know, so far £13,769 for a 197 with no options ATM
If I was you mate, i'd wait for the facelift. Being one of the last Mk3 Ph1 197's it will depreciate far faster tha it woul have done. Look at the difference in price of a 53/04 172 to a 04 182 on average its now £1500 a few years ago it may have been more.
Just something to be aware of, for all we know the current 197 may be better than the facelift. It is a bit of gamble though.
Just something to be aware of, for all we know the current 197 may be better than the facelift. It is a bit of gamble though.
Was a 197
how much can u beat my price so far by then?
Not even close mate. If that's that you've been told as a dealer it's a long way out! I suspect you're just guessing.
Gaz_
ClioSport Club Member
Extreme mode
June for the normal Clios......
Steve
ClioSport Club Member
ST3 8.5
Good job buying renault, will loose shed loads in first yr .
Was a 197
its the same with any car, but really 197s seem to be holding value pretty well for my reckoning to the prices on autotrader.
Im not too keen on the stylin for the new facelift, not sure that the proportions look, whether its just the photos i dunno, something just doesn't look right.
I do like though what they did with the normal clio 3 and turned into a hot hatch with subtle changes to the body, nothing dramatic at all.
Im not too keen on the stylin for the new facelift, not sure that the proportions look, whether its just the photos i dunno, something just doesn't look right.
I do like though what they did with the normal clio 3 and turned into a hot hatch with subtle changes to the body, nothing dramatic at all.
Steve
ClioSport Club Member
ST3 8.5
Thats the point they are not selling at the prices on autotrader, i've been watching for months & nothing is shifting
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