Tom @ JMS + Roll Cage + fabrication / adjustment and powder coat

[-J-]

I Purchased Kev Halls 'Caged' bolt in roll cage a few months ago and decided I wanted a Harness Bar and the Cage refinishing as it had a few marks on it.

After a chat with Tom @ JMS, he took on the job of fabricating a Harness Bar and having the cage refinished (Powder Coated) for me.

I was not sure on what Colour to go and had a few options in mind, Florescent Green, Black, Silver or Anthracite... I basically left it up to Tom how to have it finished and where to mount the Harness Bar.

After a quick Trip down to JMS new workshop (Which is a very nice location and MUCH easier to get in and out of, for those of you who knew the boys old yard ** Watch out for the last speed bump on the way into the new yard if you go down there in a low clio, its a 'Sump Breaker'**) I collected my Cage all finished, with new Bar fitted.

The Cage as fitted to Kev's 182 Clio -

And the Cage as collected from Tom, ready to go into my Silver 172 Cup -

Tried to get a photo of the finish, but its a bit difficult -

Very Happy with Toms work and would highly recommend them if you need any fabrication / finishing work carried out.

Not sure when ill get round to fitting the cage as its to cold out to be messing round with cars (Yes I am a big Pansy and like my warmth :rasp But once its in with new harnesses fitted ill get some photos up.

And a quick photo of the Car just because....

 

[Ali]

Nice. Seen that a few times, why are the harnesses fixed to the back mounting points and not the ground?!

 

[ForceIndia]

Nice. Seen that a few times, why are the harnesses fixed to the back mounting points and not the ground?!

Isn't the angle to steep when using the lower mounting points?
Voila

 

[-J-]

Nice. Seen that a few times, why are the harnesses fixed to the back mounting points and not the ground?!

Not sure whey Kev chose that option... With the Bar that Tom has fitted for me, the Mounts should be spot on, I plan on running a pair of harnesses like these, but the rear mounts will be looped round the bar rather than fixed with eye bolts - http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motor...ies/Harnesses/Schroth_Profi_II_ASM_/1755/1166

 

[Tom@JMS]

Pleased your happy with it mate.

 

[adam172]

same cage as mine, mine also has harness bar welded in

 

[jenic]

Excellent choice of cage

No harness bar for me though

 

[-J-]

I may have to PM you Adam / Jenic when it comes to fitting it if I get stuck LOL

Adam, What harnesses are you running?

 

[jenic]

Its simple if you have left the subframe in. Thats the bit thats a b*****d to fit

How will the harnesses secure to the bar, just buy a loop through fastener and cut the ends off the harness?

 

[adam172]

heres a closer look at the harnesses they are just 2" omp ones i want to upgrade to 3" soon though

the cage is easy enough to fit i did it on my own problem was lining it up as the harness bar have changed to measurements by a few mm's but its pretty straight forward.

 

[-J-]

Its simple if you have left the subframe in. Thats the bit thats a b*****d to fit

How will the harnesses secure to the bar, just buy a loop through fastener and cut the ends off the harness?

Subframes are to be fitted as well, it's never been in my car since Kev removed it from his!

Harnesses as you say above, loop through, looks like Adam has the same set up.

 

[adam172]

if you want i can try get some better pics tomorrow of the fixings ect... i had to put spacers inbetween my cage as well as its to small to reach across i will get photos tomorow to show what i mean.

 

[-J-]

if you want i can try get some better pics tomorrow of the fixings ect... i had to put spacers inbetween my cage as well as its to small to reach across i will get photos tomorow to show what i mean.

That would be great if you could mate, I have some 'spacers' that I presume go on the subframes somewhere

 

[jenic]

big spacers go on the rear subframe with the longer bolts, the smaller ones on the front with the shorter bolts.

You need to just nip one side of the subframe piece into the thread, then do the other side, then do a couple more turns so they are in but not tight. Repeat with the other subframe piece. Then fit the cage, which will square the subframes up so you can tighten it all up

It doesn't look like it will tighten up at first but once the cage is on it all comes together

 

[adam172]

yea they are the spacers i mean

 

[-J-]

Do the spacers go between the subframe and mount point or on the 'outside' of the subframe?

 

[adam172]

yes so either side, the four corners that connect to the car

 

[-J-]

Sweet think I have got it straight in my mind, Adam, pics would be useful when you get a mo, no hurry though

 

[drhowser]

J, I've got those exact harnesses, they can be wrapped round the bar with no problem.

Be warned though, they have a specific way of being threaded through the buckle that will make mensa seem like the sun crossword!

 

[-J-]

J, I've got those exact harnesses, they can be wrapped round the bar with no problem.

Be warned though, they have a specific way of being threaded through the buckle that will make mensa seem like the sun crossword!

Pmsl, I'll bare that in mind if I get them then, and drop you a pm if I get stuck.

 

[Christopher]

Superb!

Harness bar.

 

[Ali]

Isn't the angle to steep when using the lower mounting points?
Voila

Now i'm even more confused. So harness bars are also the wrong angle??!

 

[Rob]

From being dead straight to angled 20 degree's down, you're safe.

 

[adam172]

as above anywere betweeon 0 and -20degrees!!

 

[Tom@JMS]

Is this in your car yet chap?

 

[Ali]

I see.

 

[-J-]

Is this in your car yet chap?

PMSL No mate, Its to bloody cold out to be pissing around with sockets etc

Im slacking as I have still not fitted the seat wiring looms either I picked up from you a month or so back!

 

[DaveW_cup]

Very nice mate! Can you link me to a site selling that size no plate?

 

[-J-]

Very nice mate! Can you link me to a site selling that size no plate?

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...se-thinking-of-ordering&highlight=fancy+plate

 

[GodSpeed]

If you use a Hans device or plan to use one in the future 0 --> -10 degrees is what you MUST have. Just may be something to think about if welding a bar in.

 

[Tom@JMS]

Interesting, but I'm yet too see a Clio in the UK running hans devices!

 

[Jamie86]

Interesting, but I'm yet too see a Clio in the UK running hans devices!

Do the cup racers not run hans?

 

[Tom@JMS]

I don't think so?