What sort of milage is a williams lump reliable till???

[Paddy_g46]

i have seen a hybrid for sale with 81000 miles on the clock (apparently!) but i am always worried about this high milage, mayb i am being silly but anything above 60k and i start 2 think it will be breaking down all the time! can any1 put my mind at ease or tell me whether i am right to be wary, i just dont want to buy another car that gives me more hassle then its worth!
i have asked the guy about the cambelt and im waiting to hear back on that.

 

[Bailey_1260]

81 would be considered low milage by some lol

 

[Paddy_g46]

81 would be considered low milage by some lol

yeh i know! lol but i just dotn want to buy a shitter!

 

[Bailey_1260]

my valver is on 150 k amd the engine is perfect. (Shame the box has blown lol)

Really you are looking at its history rather than milage. You could get one on 50 k thats been fooked or one on 150k thats perfect.

 

[G_F]

Good condition lump i would say 130k, then rebuild time.

 

[Paddy_g46]

my valver is on 150 k amd the engine is perfect. (Shame the box has blown lol)

Really you are looking at its history rather than milage. You could get one on 50 k thats been fooked or one on 150k thats perfect.

thats the problem though, as its a hybrid there is no service history! no point showing me service history for the old engine! so basically you are buying an 80k car with no history!

 

[S77CCP]

As long as the vehilce has a full service history then mileage shouldn't be a issue.

 

[Paddy_g46]

As long as the vehilce has a full service history then mileage shouldn't be a issue.

read the above post! whats the point in telling me that the car was serviced ever year when that is for an engine thats not in the car anymore!

 

[S77CCP]

As long as the vehilce has a full service history then mileage shouldn't be a issue.

read the above post! whats the point in telling me that the car was serviced ever year when that is for an engine thats not in the car anymore!

Sadly mate I can't read minds, and we posted at the same time, so don't get shirty with me.

 

[Paddy_g46]

read the above post! whats the point in telling me that the car was serviced ever year when that is for an engine thats not in the car anymore!

Sadly mate I can't read minds, and we posted at the same time, so don't get shirty with me.

sorry mate i wasnt getting shirty i just came across wrong and i meant whats the point in the seller showing me service history for the car wen the engines only been in there for 3k miles! its a bit of a gamble isnt it

 

[S77CCP]

too true, tricky one to gauge. Best of luck.

 

[Paddy_g46]

too true, tricky one to gauge. Best of luck.

cheers

 

[G_F]

Do a compression test on it.

 

[Bailey_1260]

Surely you can marry the engines old history and the shells old history?

 

[Paddy_g46]

Do a compression test on it.

yeh thats a good idea i bought a tester a few months ago and havnt even used it yet!

personally if you were selling a car would you want some1 doing a test on your car? i mean i know i am perfectly capable of doing it without f**king up the car but the seller doesnt know that

 

[Paddy_g46]

Surely you can marry the engines old history and the shells old history?

do you mean just put all the history together? yeh that would be fine but generally when people buy a new engine they dont get any history with it!

 

[Bailey_1260]

do you mean just put all the history together? yeh that would be fine but generally when people buy a new engine they dont get any history with it!

True lolz

Good look with it any way chap

 

[cat171]

Check the service history for the engine & as said get a compression test done on it.
It's been reported that williams engines can see over 200k !!! with really minimal wear. Just make sure that's it'ss been looked after.

If they can't provide any history or bills or the conversion etc i'd walk away, last thing you wanna do is get stung.

When I had the engine changed in my valver (dont ask lol) I had a copy of their service history & a signed written letter from the person whose car the engine came out of.

 

[Paddy_g46]

Check the service history for the engine & as said get a compression test done on it.
It's been reported that williams engines can see over 200k !!! with really minimal wear. Just make sure that's it'ss been looked after.

If they can't provide any history or bills or the conversion etc i'd walk away, last thing you wanna do is get stung.

When I had the engine changed in my valver (dont ask lol) I had a copy of their service history & a signed written letter from the person whose car the engine came out of.

but mate not many ppl get a copy of the history when they buy a new engine so really when buying any hybrid you are taking a risk! also what do you mean reciepts? as in by the garage that fitted then engine?


edit: here is the car in question, and i have just realised it is actually a williams replica with stickers and all

http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20317

none of u feckers even think about buying it now iv put the link up!!! :rasp:

 

[Paddy_g46]

bump

 

[Russ_16v]

id say that mileage is fine mate,my mate had his willy cammed and chipped @ 110k and it still made 180 bhp on nick hill's roller's,id say if the engine sounds good,does rattle or smoke etc,and drives nice dont worry about it

 

[Bradharding]

That's good mileage mate. I see your point on the service history point. Although a lot of valver/hybrid owners are enthusiasts and know that they own a car where 'big things may go wrong' that is gearbox's, clutches, engines etc. Doesn't seem you are ready to take on this responsibility so maybe you should go for a 'more reliable' car, which may cost you more money in the short run and/or be less fun. You never know with these kind of cars if or when something might break, its just a bit of luck really. Obviously a well looked after car helps but some people have no end of problems. Others have little or none. If you really want the car, and you think it looks well looked after, go buy it

 

[Paddy_g46]

That's good mileage mate. I see your point on the service history point. Although a lot of valver/hybrid owners are enthusiasts and know that they own a car where 'big things may go wrong' that is gearbox's, clutches, engines etc. Doesn't seem you are ready to take on this responsibility so maybe you should go for a 'more reliable' car, which may cost you more money in the short run and/or be less fun. You never know with these kind of cars if or when something might break, its just a bit of luck really. Obviously a well looked after car helps but some people have no end of problems. Others have little or none. If you really want the car, and you think it looks well looked after, go buy it

how very dare you!

 

[Paddy_g46]

if you were the owner would you have a problem with a "stranger" doing a compression test on your car?

 

[donsrno1]

I personally think you should steer well clear, that is only because I want it though, lol. As for a compression test, unless I knew the person knew what they were doing I would not let them do it - though in my case I would do it for them.

 

[samg1988]

hmm... in my experience id steer clear of that one.. keep looking!

 

[Paddy_g46]

hmm... in my experience id steer clear of that one.. keep looking!

nice try mate, what with you being donsrno1 friend i think ill ignore your advice!

 

[samg1988]

hmm... in my experience id steer clear of that one.. keep looking!

nice try mate, what with you being donsrno1 friend i think ill ignore your advice!

haha caught me!

 

[samg1988]

i just want his RT

 

[Paddy_g46]

I personally think you should steer well clear, that is only because I want it though, lol. As for a compression test, unless I knew the person knew what they were doing I would not let them do it - though in my case I would do it for them.

dude you are 240 miles away from the car! are you seriously going to travel that far! i thought i was far! lol

 

[Paddy_g46]

nice try mate, what with you being donsrno1 friend i think ill ignore your advice!

haha caught me!

cheeky fooker! lol :rasp:

 

[donsrno1]

I personally think you should steer well clear, that is only because I want it though, lol. As for a compression test, unless I knew the person knew what they were doing I would not let them do it - though in my case I would do it for them.

dude you are 240 miles away from the car! are you seriously going to travel that far! i thought i was far! lol

all being well yes. Not all that far, can be down there and back in a day. It'll just be a bugger if I get there and have to turn round as the car isn't as described, lol.

 

[samg1988]

all being well yes. Not all that far, can be down there and back in a day. It'll just be a bugger if I get there and have to turn round as the car isn't as described, lol.

do it! leave now! lol

 

[Paddy_g46]

dude you are 240 miles away from the car! are you seriously going to travel that far! i thought i was far! lol

all being well yes. Not all that far, can be down there and back in a day. It'll just be a bugger if I get there and have to turn round as the car isn't as described, lol.

yeh that would be a pain lol

 

[cat171]

If the seller has proof of the actual mileage on the engine thats in there, fine, if they have bills for all work done, inc cambelt change ?? (inc fitting it of engine etc) then great. Personally there is no way i'd touch one without paperwork.

Bradharding - not every one who puts a willy engine in their car is an enthusiast at all, some don't have a clue !

 

[Paddy_g46]

If the seller has proof of the actual mileage on the engine thats in there, fine, if they have bills for all work done, inc cambelt change ?? (inc fitting it of engine etc) then great. Personally there is no way i'd touch one without paperwork.

Bradharding - not every one who puts a willy engine in their car is an enthusiast at all, some don't have a clue !

tbh mate i dnt think many ppl with hybrids have actualy proof of the engine milage, or do they?

 

[Ali]

PMSL. If ever there was a more ominous question!

 

[Paddy_g46]

bump

 

[edde]

81k wouldn't worry me at all you get cars with 50k which are worn and cars with 300k which arn't.

81k would worry me more by the fact its so low milage.

Williams have been over 300k before now without issues.

 

[Paddy_g46]

81k wouldn't worry me at all you get cars with 50k which are worn and cars with 300k which arn't.

81k would worry me more by the fact its so low milage.

Williams have been over 300k before now without issues.

thanks to every1 for the advice, im going to see this car on saturday morning so hopefully its a guddun!