Would you buy this track prep 192?

[conor1n]

Hey guys,

I'm looking to pick up a 197 for track and constantly flipping between a project versus something pre-specced.



V5 last issued in September 2019. With cambelt and dephaser done a few hundred miles ago, does this seem too good to be true? If it all checked out then it would certainly save me a bunch of cash. Perhaps it's cheap because seemingly rough bodywork?

I'm worried that a sorted / tracked car has already had the life squeezed out of it and will leave me with nothing but work and stress figuring stuff out?

 

[DrR]

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[conor1n]

I'm note sure what's going on here....can't a man just paste a link? 🤔

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[Krarl]

Seems good for the price. Ask for proof of the cams though as I suspect it wont have 'uprated' ones or any other than standard ones for that matter haha

 

[conor1n]

Seems good for the price. Ask for proof of the cams though as I suspect it wont have 'uprated' ones or any other than standard ones for that matter haha

Thanks. I see from checking the DVLA site that the V5 was last issued in September 2019.. I wonder what the significance of that is?

Do you think they just bought it then.. or just had it lost/replaced? If the only bought it then, I would be worried.

 

[Krarl]

Thanks. I see from checking the DVLA site that the V5 was last issued in September 2019.. I wonder what the significance of that is?

Do you think they just bought it then.. or just had it lost/replaced? If the only bought it then, I would be worried.

Probably bought a new V5 mate

I've had to do it a few times with cars I've bought because previous owners have been absolute spaniels

 

[conor1n]

Probably bought a new V5 mate

I've had to do it a few times with cars I've bought because previous owners have been absolute spaniels

Ok thanks. I might take a look today.

Body work looks to be in rough enough nick, but I reckon I could DIY most of them. I wonder is the black easy to match up if polished also?

 

[Krarl]

Ok thanks. I might take a look today.

Body work looks to be in rough enough nick, but I reckon I could DIY most of them. I wonder is the black easy to match up if polished also?

It doesn't look too bad from the pics. If it's a track car I wouldn't worry too much haha

 

[conor1n]

It doesn't look too bad from the pics. If it's a track car I wouldn't worry too much haha

Yea fair enough. But I would like to get to a point that with a bucket of water and rub of a cloth it could shine up pretty nicely ---- not that it would ever happen

 

[Krarl]

Yea fair enough. But I would like to get to a point that with a bucket of water and rub of a cloth it could shine up pretty nicely ---- not that it would ever happen

Mines got a few scrapes here and there. Doesn't bother me as I know it will never be showroom condition haha

 

[leeds_182]

That doors fucked. I couldn’t cope with that.

It’s basically a clio with some bucket seats and some decent wheels that’s suddenly become ‘track / fast road’.

I’d rather pay £2500 and get a decent one and do the mods myself. The fun is in ploughing your hard earned into a project, not correcting someone else’s bodges.

 

[conor1n]

That doors fucked. I couldn’t cope with that.

It’s basically a clio with some bucket seats and some decent wheels that’s suddenly become ‘track / fast road’.

I’d rather pay £2500 and get a decent one and do the mods myself. The fun is in ploughing your hard earned into a project, not correcting someone else’s bodges.

Fair enough. But to be honest, I probably wouldn't pay more than 1850/1900 and it's listed for 2200.

Would you lads not be worried about a thrashed engine / gearbox? I mean fair enough the body work may not be ideal, but at least that is up front and clear to see. I'd be more curious about unknowns.

 

[leeds_182]

Fair enough. But to be honest, I probably wouldn't pay more than 1850/1900 and it's listed for 2200.

Would you lads not be worried about a thrashed engine / gearbox? I mean fair enough the body work may not be ideal, but at least that is up front and clear to see. I'd be more curious about unknowns.

Isn’t that the same with any car though? You could argue that a track car has likely had more regular engine and box oil changes.

I think the only way to do it would be to go test drive it and have a look yourself.

 

[conor1n]

Isn’t that the same with any car though? You could argue that a track car has likely had more regular engine and box oil changes.

I think the only way to do it would be to go test drive it and have a look yourself.

Oh yea, but my thinking is that most non track cars probably aren't driven to the red line. I guess there is for and against.

 

[leeds_182]

Oh yea, but my thinking is that most non track cars probably aren't driven to the red line. I guess there is for and against.

Most track cars have done one track day before the owner has realised it’s too expensive to do more than that so I wouldn’t read too much into it.

 

[Bluebeard]

I've been doing track days for 15+ years and have a big circle of friends that do it too. Im yet to find someone that's bought a 'Track prepped' car and not had to fix umpteen bodges inside and out. Buying someone else's headache if you ask me.

I once went to view a 'Track 172 Cup' off this very website and the wiring loom was literally screwed up and crushed inside a big white council junction box and self tapperd in to the firewall where the glovebox should have been. Mental.

Buy something relatively standard (Perhaps with nice spec suspension and an exhaust maybe) and do the rest of the work yourself.

 

[Martin.]

I agree, the amount of 'track spec' cars I've come across which are absolute dogs.

You need to be prepared to properly sort it yourself If you buy someone elses cheap car. Unless you don't actually care about bodges obviously.

Cheap for a reason.

 

[JamesBryan]

Track prepped usually means stuff ripped out in a half arsed fashion with wires everywhere 😂

 

[MonkeyKnifeFight]

I doubt that short shift kit will have done the gearbox any good.

 

[conor1n]

I doubt that short shift kit will have done the gearbox any good.

Yea my thoughts exactly.. I get anxious when I see that. I believe those gearboxes are best left with normal shifter to ease the burden.

 

[imprezaworks]

Looks okay to be fair.

Has a Cliosport sticker in. Maybe someone on here.

 

[conor1n]

Looks okay to be fair.

Has a Cliosport sticker in. Maybe someone on here.

Oh yes, I did notice that..

Well, car is SORN and no insurance.. so not sure how to proceed with this. I feel like I would certainly want to be test driving it.

 

[imprezaworks]

I'd be asking for pics of rust bubbles. Who did the belts and what cams.

 

[leeds_182]

I'd be asking for pics of rust bubbles. Who did the belts and what cams.

OG CS questions bru.

 

[conor1n]

OG CS questions bru.

Whats this?

 

[cat171]

Stuff you need to ask about.

 

[conor1n]

Stuff you need to ask about.

Yes but what does "OG CS" mean?

 

[cat171]

Original gangster ClioSport. Basically standard questions we ask sellers.

 

[conor1n]

Original gangster ClioSport. Basically standard questions we ask sellers.

Ahh thanks. A newbie like me still needs even the most basic things pointed out

 

[cat171]

That's alright. Better to go in with questions and knowledge.