Pictures of your looped rack for EPAS. What fittings have you used?

[NorthloopCup]

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I found this - looped twice ?
Any ideas why it's looped at the rotary valve head as it's been suggested it's to be blocked off.

There's no need to loop it there whatsoever mate. It doesn't do anything at that part if there's no fluid in there.

 

[barnesautos]

I'm understanding the lubed rack and pinion side of things , is the other part blocked off just to keep the s**t out Mark ?

 

[NorthloopCup]

I'm understanding the lubed rack and pinion side of things , is the other part blocked off just to keep the s**t out Mark ?

Yes mate.

 

[barnesautos]

I should have kept the blanking plugs that came with the new racks back in the day instead of launching em in the bin Doh

 

[Akay]

@NorthloopCup - Cant seem to find m12x1.0 blanking plugs, any ideas were you got yours from?

 

[NorthloopCup]

@NorthloopCup - Cant seem to find m12x1.0 blanking plugs, any ideas were you got yours from?

I think I just filled the originals with chemical metal tbh mate.

 

[Panda]

Automec.co.uk sell Brass Blanking plug Male M12 x 1mm if thats any good

 

[Panda]

Not sure if its a male or female you need but if its female and you've got the room you've always got the option of a Brass Inline Connector Female M12 x 1mm then blank with the male.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Not sure if its a male or female you need but if its female and you've got the room you've always got the option of a Brass Inline Connector Female M12 x 1mm then blank with the male.

They need to be male plugs mate.

 

[Panda]

They need to be male plugs mate.

I wasn't to sure and never looked back at any pictures so thought i'd give the other option just incase.

 

[barnesautos]

Found these , but a little pricey imo .

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=181663730103

 

[Panda]

Automec.co.uk
£1.65 each
80p second class post
£1 first class
So £4.30 for 2 posted first class, not much cheaper mind.

 

[Borstii]

Are there any long-time experiences? Does work longer than a season?

 

[Akay]

Where do you lube the rack guys? None looped side before I fit the blanks? And shall i top it up with pas fluid? Mines pretty much empty. @NorthloopCup @GrahamS

 

[NorthloopCup]

Where do you lube the rack guys? None looped side before I fit the blanks? And shall i top it up with pas fluid? Mines pretty much empty. @NorthloopCup @GrahamS

Mine just ran with the residual pas fluid that was left in the rack after I drained the system off.
The new rack is a modified power rack and it's filled with grease.

 

[barnesautos]

Where have you put the grease in ?

 

[NorthloopCup]

Where have you put the grease in ?

The grease is packed in at the rack and pinion end, and also there's some inside the rack to help lubricate the shaft seals that are found at either end. The rack is modified internally to reduce pressure build up as well.

 

[barnesautos]

The grease is packed in at the rack and pinion end, and also there's some inside the rack to help lubricate the shaft seals that are found at either end. The rack is modified internally to reduce pressure build up as well.

Modified internally ?
How you done that.
How is that achieved don't mind me asking

 

[NorthloopCup]

Modified internally ?
How you done that.
How is that achieved don't mind me asking

There's a seal that's about smack bang in the middle of the rack that's there to stop fluid transfer between the halves of the steering rack. That's been removed and the area that the seal sits in has been grooved to allow the air to move.

 

[barnesautos]

There's a seal that's about smack bang in the middle of the rack that's there to stop fluid transfer between the halves of the steering rack. That's been removed and the area that the seal sits in has been grooved to allow the air to move.

Ahh ok , not stripped one down yet - but I know exactly what you mean and the principle behind it .

 

[Akay]

So you can just blank instead of loop then?

 

[Akay]

And when the rods are off presume you can just access the internals that way?

 

[NorthloopCup]

And when the rods are off presume you can just access the internals that way?

No mate you need to strip the rack down to access the internals.
Don't blank the rack - it causes a pressure build up inside the rack and it WILL lock your steering.

 

[GrahamS]

I have all the blanking plugs and the copper loop in the garage somewhere. Running a DCI rack now so don't need it all

 

[raps]

Just reading up on various mods guys. I've searched and cant find the answer.

Whats the benefit of removing the PAS? Is it as part of removing the PAS pump & Aircon etc and going for less mass on the aux belt side of things, or is it related to steering feels etc?

Mine has had the rack replaced (with a newer used) and has had a new PAS pump, but I suspect it may be leaking as there's oil/gunk/fluid all over it. I need to get it all cleaned off to see if its just a general mess due to leaky sump, gearbox selector leak.

But if it is leaking I'd rather do the work once - with a long term view of "track car" so if this mod is of benefit then I'll do it at the same time.

Can someone explain or point me to a thread with the detail on please. :up:

 

[Leslie Graham]

I remembered mate! Ok so you need 1x m14x1.5, 1x m16x1.5 and 2x m12x1.0 blanking plugs. You then need 2x m12x1.0 brake pipe unions for 3/16 pipe to make the link pipe.

Get the Allen key head blanking plugs as well mate as you can't fit anything else in there.

Hi bud, just doing this job over next few nights. Can you confirm i need 2x m12 x 1.0 blanks as i cant find any.
Also, can the loop be done with rubber hose and jubilee clios or must it be metal?
Many thanks

 

[NorthloopCup]

Hi bud, just doing this job over next few nights. Can you confirm i need 2x m12 x 1.0 blanks as i cant find any.
Also, can the loop be done with rubber hose and jubilee clios or must it be metal?
Many thanks

Which bits are you blanking off mate? The ones near where the column bolts on? If so, just fill them with sealant mate.

 

[Leslie Graham]

Which bits are you blanking off mate? The ones near where the column bolts on? If so, just fill them with sealant mate.

The 4 ports at bottom of steering column. Can i use rubber hose (hydraulic) and jubilees for joining the 2 pipes on rack?

 

[NorthloopCup]

The 4 ports at bottom of steering column. Can i use rubber hose (hydraulic) and jubilees for joining the 2 pipes on rack?

The 4 ports at the bottom of the column can be filled with silicone sealant mate. You'll be fine to join the pipes on the rack with rubber hose as well. It's no longer under any pressure you see.

 

[Leslie Graham]

The 4 ports at the bottom of the column can be filled with silicone sealant mate. You'll be fine to join the pipes on the rack with rubber hose as well. It's no longer under any pressure you see.

Cheers buddy. Appreciate that. This'll be a very quick winter project then!!! I'll need to think of something else... Think I'm suffering from AutoAnorexia...

 

[MarkX]

I'll need to think of something else... Think I'm suffering from AutoAnorexia...

sounds like grinder time again! :tonguewink:

 

[Leslie Graham]

sounds like grinder time again! :tonguewink:

Well under way Mark. Managed to rape a student on gumtree and get a cup alternator set up COMPLETE for £30 including P&P. Didn't know what it was worth. So, PAS gone, butchered aircon unit gone, associated bracketry gone, pipework gone, reservoir gone, wiper motor and arms gone, rack getting looped etc. Don't know what weight is in big brown box but it's a 2 hand lift. All this BEFORE i pull out my trusty cutting gear!!!!
Cant help but look at all hinges etc now thinking they're designed for heavier gear and could lose a bit. Never ending story!!!

 

[Leslie Graham]

Quick update. Just bought new 850mm gates 5v belt, jubikees and hose for £13.95. Together with £30 full cup alternator set up ive managed to remove all aircon, all pas and a s**t load of weight for a grand total of £43.95. Did i ever mention I hate getting ripped of by brand names?

 

[barnesautos]

Quick update. Just bought new 850mm gates 5v belt, jubikees and hose for £13.95. Together with £30 full cup alternator set up ive managed to remove all aircon, all pas and a s**t load of weight for a grand total of £43.95. Did i ever mention I hate getting ripped of by brand names?

Nice one - you cheap skate lol :tounge out .

I'm now guessing you can sealer the rack in situ ?
Did you ? Or did you have the rack out.

 

[Leslie Graham]

All can be done with rack in. Lose inlet manifold 1st though, much more space

 

[GrahamS]

I've got a full plug set at home and the copper loop for anyone looking to do this. It's a mismatch of 3 brass bungs, 1 lambda bung and a home made loop but it worked perfectly. Don't know what it's worth so offers if anyone is interested.

 

[barnesautos]

I've got a full plug set at home and the copper loop for anyone looking to do this. It's a mismatch of 3 brass bungs, 1 lambda bung and a home made loop but it worked perfectly. Don't know what it's worth so offers if anyone is interested.

Can you Pm me a pic of the bits please .
Like to see what you got on offer [emoji106]

 

[barnesautos]

All can be done with rack in. Lose inlet manifold 1st though, much more space

Ah that's handy - inlet coming off soon as I have my RS2 going on , so I'll do the rack business after its installed .
Nice one .

 

[sburrell93]

Is there any reason why nobody has removed the internals of the valve setup where to column connects and keep the pipes connected on the rack?

I'm not near a rack just now to have a look around it so expecting a simple answer like it can't be opened up lol, but curiosity got the better of me here.

 

[Stuiemc]

Rather than starting a new thread I'm going to bump this back up...

When looping the rack I'm I right in thinking you drain out all the PAS fluid out the side being looped and pack the pinion side with high temp grease and bung the holes?

I hear some people fill it with fluid and some people empty it?