Can you shoe horn a 197 engine into a 182?

[the jeffster]

Some one posted up some pics of the Renault factory and I was looking at the 197 engine, and as it is on the same platfrom as the 182 (F4R) would it be possible to get one into a 182?

The advantages are obvious, but the cost and feasibility is another issue

http://arena10-wsb.arcor-ip.net/~infi/dieppe/dieppe_gallery/

 

[graham_172]

i wouldn't bother, why not just get cams,induction and inlet match,decat with hi-flow exhaust. should be good for power and less hassle.

 

[the jeffster]

i wouldn't bother, why not just get cams,induction and inlet match,decat with hi-flow exhaust. should be good for power and less hassle.

Yes but it you STARTED with more power you could tune higher and with the lower weight get huge gains

 

[Shindig]

some wicked pics there... thanks for posting

 

[Neil G]

Why?

What a stupid idea

Can get 200bhp with the 182s engine for less hassle and probably less money.

 

[Butler205]

The engine out of the megane would be the way to go. 197 engine is too much hassle for minimal gain.

 

[Adey.]

i was thinking that, mate a meggy engine to a clio box, and tweek that, 225bhp to start with, you could prob get to 300 on stock items

 

[Andyman]

225 would be the way to go but it wont be easy

 

[graham_172]

this thread is going to open up a world of hell.

 

[Gareth]

i was thinking that, mate a meggy engine to a clio box, and tweek that, 225bhp to start with, you could prob get to 300 on stock items

230bhp in most cases, but you wouldn't get to 300bhp with stock items, you also wouldn't fit it in without lots of work and ££££. Oh and I agree with everyone else, fitting a 197 engine into a 182 is completely pointless.

 

[Cookie]

i was thinking that, mate a meggy engine to a clio box, and tweek that, 225bhp to start with, you could prob get to 300 on stock items

Don't think it can be mated to a Clio box, and the Meggy box won't fit in the Clio IIRC

 

[Steve2004]

Isn't the engine in the 197 the same as the 172/182 engine anyway? It's just been messed with a bit?

 

[182 clio racer]

Really enjoyed looking through those photos. Nice one.

 

[Adey.]

i was thinking that, mate a meggy engine to a clio box, and tweek that, 225bhp to start with, you could prob get to 300 on stock items

Don't think it can be mated to a Clio box, and the Meggy box won't fit in the Clio IIRC

i thought it didnt fit because it was too long, being a 6 speed, im sure that they do a 5 speed option that should be a bit shorter?

 

[RichMcc]

Wait for the twingo and drop the lump into that would be much much more fun

 

[Neil G]

225 would be the way to go but it wont be easy

Yep

So you might as well buy the rest of the car as well lol

 

[Scutch]

Agree with the consensus. Great pics

 

[RacerStu]

Quality pics. Is it me or is the 197 bigger than the Megane?!

 

[DynamiqueDebz]

Really enjoyed those pics. Excellent stuff! I want to take a tour now.

 

[Cliodamo]

you could get this guy to fit it for you! he looks clueless lol

 

[Neil G]

lol

No wonder all our Clios fall apart

Muppet lol

 

[RichMcc]

^^ is it me or does he have some sorta pneumatic butt plug or something?

The 197 is pretty much the size of the megan yeah. Theres very little between em!
This is why Im saying the twingo with a F4R would rock because its mk2 clio size and weight

 

[daydotz]

nice pics i expect hes the head of quality control lol

 

[197ant]

Isn't the engine in the 197 the same as the 172/182 engine anyway? It's just been messed with a bit?

Yeah I thought that as well

 

[Alex_225]

As said, I thought the 197 engine was virtually the same as the 182 engine anyway. I'd love to see a 225 engined, Clio but it doesn't sound very feasable.

A twin engines Meg 225 with two re-mapped engines would be far more interesting though.

Great by the way as well. Interesting seeing the new Clio against the Megane, almost looks like the Megane is slightly smaller. I know the roof line is actually lower. They're almost the same size, no wonder the Meg is that much quicker!!

 

[TrannyB]

if you look out the window in the factory on some of the pics can see alot of jap cars not alot of french quite worrying really the workers wont drive the cars they bulid!:S

 

[cupholder]

as far as im aware its pretty much the same bar the manifolds and different mapping now the question that needs to be raised.... is the 197 inlet manifold better than the 172/182 and will it fit under the bonnet as the throttle body sits at a different angle

 

[Dan R]

Waste of time as far as im concerned. probably notice almost no difference in performance. it would be stupidly expensive and youd probably never be able sell it once it was done. either buy a 197 or mod the 182 to get more power than the 197 or just leave it alone completely. save the money, keep the reliability and keep it like renaultsport intended it to be. its a very finely balanced car as it comes out of the box!

 

[edde]

Could be made to fit but as said no point.

 

[MickeyO]

225 engine into a cup would be veryyyyy nice

possible??

 

[BioHzrd]

last for pics on the page Caption should be...."Oh S*** Some Ones Taking Pics Better Look Busy !! "

 

[Andyman]

225 engine into a cup would be veryyyyy nice

possible??

Well they can put Cossie running gear into mini's so yes, anythings possible. Its all a question of cash at the end of the day

Take one 225 floor pan.

Resize to Clio length and width.

Cut your 182 off at the bottom.

Weld together.

Hey presto - bobs your uncle, f4nny's your aunt one 225 Meggy Clio. Piece of p1ss :rasp:

 

[Fred@BTM]

anything is possible, but it would be a wanker to do

 

[edde]

225 engine into a cup would be veryyyyy nice

possible??

Yep just need to make the mounts, driveshafts and cut the passenger side engine away and weld it up to clearthe box and fabricate the hydrolic clutch operation.

 

[Fred@BTM]

no need to cut anything edde! god you're such a drama queen recently!

 

[edde]

no need to cut anything edde! god you're such a drama queen recently!

Pah its my way.

 

[MickeyO]

would be pretty good that

how much cash would it be?

just thinking if you got it done you could tune it etc without the usual "caution" you have to aplly if you turbo you n/a clio

How much are the meggy engines for a start ha!

 

[racingred27]

Saw on the net the other day a Renault Spider with a 225 engine in.

Bet that shifts

 

[edde]

would be pretty good that

how much cash would it be?

just thinking if you got it done you could tune it etc without the usual "caution" you have to aplly if you turbo you n/a clio

How much are the meggy engines for a start ha!

Bit over £5k I'd guess fitted you need to find a place (probably a renault tunner) who would like a project car as such.

As you said the F4RT is a better tunning base for turboing.

 

[InSoMnIa]

If im ever to buy a 197 this is the colour for me!!! lovin it