1.8 16v Head Gasket Questions

[_Tom]

This is all about my mates R19 16v.

Basically it started to overheat the other day and now the head gasget has gone. Hes a bit of a fool and tried to drive it for a bit and now it mis-fires like a b**ch. Does this mean hes likely to have warped his head causing this mis-fire?

He also drove it about half a mile without the cap to his header tank - will this do anything?

What price is he lookin at here roughly to get a head gasget done - with and without a new head?

I personally think its f**ked! Not too bad though cus if it is f**ked i get a nice black R19 leather interior and momo steering wheel!

 

[weight]

if u get some advise, is ur mate gonna actually listen to it?

 

[_Tom]

Yeah he will - he drove it cause it was the only way he could pick up his girlfriend who was in a bit of trouble at the time!

As for the header cap thing - he lost it in the engine bay and had to get his car home!

 

[BenR]

Missfire is probably down to a simply leak of water or oil into the cylinder.

Just change the gasket and it should be ok.

But youll have to check the head for flatness before as i cant say if its warped or not.

 

[Matt16v]

£500+ for a full gasket set to be fitted (safest option)

If head needs re-surfacing looking at another couple of hundred quid - performance heads usually in the £400+ bracket (dont think a simple re-surfacing would be anywhere near that) Ask Ben R!

Check out http://www.bbperformancetuning.co.ukwww.bbperformancetuning.co.uk for prices on head gasket repairs, as a rough guide.

Be lucky to get it done by a non Renault specialist as alot of people will charge excessive amounts due to not wanting that bigger job.

 

[jimbo1]

he mite as well do it himself, only take a day to do, and cost a max of 100quid with new belt and tnsioners, and gaskets,etc. dont go n give these companies ur hard earned cash, when a bit of elbow grease can have it done for not a lot of cash.

jimbo

 

[_Tom]

Cheers for the replies guys!

Jimbo1 - Nah two of my mates are mechanics, they aint even seen the car and said they wont touch it cus there asses to work on! As for him doing it - i think he was plannin to drive it again sometime which i dont think he could it was a diy job!

 

[BenR]

Just skimming the head would cost relatively little at 20 quid.

 

[Soneji]

lol @ the prices!

 

[stan*]

 

[Mikey16vClio]

Quote: Originally posted by Soneji on 22 April 2004

lol @ the prices!

I know, £500 for head gasket! Why?

 

[Matt16v]

Quote: Originally posted by Soneji on 22 April 2004

lol @ the prices!

BB tuning will charge over £500 for head/manfold gasketts etc. Including fitting and VAT

I thought mine had gone but luckily a minor electrical fault meant it didnt cost me squat to fix.

I stand corrected about re-surfacing the head though!

But fcuk it, while its off get Ben to make it better!

 

[Matt16v]

http://www.bbperformancetuning.co.uk/products/department.asp?deptid=95http://www.bbperformancetuning.co.uk/products/department.asp?deptid=95

If any one can get prices that are substantially cheaper for the parts and labour from a garage that you know wont fcuk up the work please tell me.

I know these prices are based on the Clio 16v but its the same engine!

Soneji - arent you the person that can build genuine Williams engines for £200 or less??

Suppose you can get turbo conversion for less than a grand as well?

 

[BenR]

Soneji is definately not the person your looking for! lol

 

[Alex M]

DIY the are awkward but not impossible to work on, I took engine out to change my blown head gasket so could do a couple of other things also, its is more time consuming and annoying rather than being particularily difficult

 

[martsclio]

Make sure he gets the head skimmed at the same time, as ben says, it wont cost much more, but itll definitely cause less problems in the long term.

 

[Soneji]

No I dont make them lol. But you can make a Williams out of several bits and bobs if you have a diesel kicking about... waiting on me crank being delivered

 

[JAY172]

remove the head and check it with a calibrated straight edge. alternativly there are plenty of firms that will check the head surface(warped etc) and do a leak test for cracks. if he has drove it a long time whilst it was overheating i personally would defo get the head checked.