15" team dynamics - central hole not big enough? help :(

[paul the 6th]

Hiya lads,

I went a bit mad over xmas and new year hols on eBay and bought these team dynamics alloys. 15" and 195/50 with 36 or 37 offset (I read online that the offset and PCD matched the standard cup alloys).

Anywho, the front tyres on the fitted cup alloys are both low/near tread marker and were a nightmare in the snow. The team dynamics tyres have tonnes of meat left on them so just tried fitting... The bolt holes line up, just the large central hole where the axle nut peeps out of seems to be like 1-2 mm too small as I couldn't get the alloy to seat on the collar which sits around the axle nut hole.

Do I need spacers or am I being a complete muppet?

 

[AdamR]

There is also a 3rd thing to check for fitment (on top of PCD and Offset) - bore. Not sure of the solution as I've not been in this predicament myself, but if you can't return them for an exchange, it might be a job for a man with a huge lathe...

 

[jesus]

Screw the bolts in and the wheel will go over the hub. When I had these alloys, they were doing the same thing. I just tightened the bolts up and on they went.

EDIT: Yeah or the centre bore is wrong. They should be 60.1 I think? Someone will be along to correct me if not.

 

[paul the 6th]

yeah I've read the central bore required is 60.1mm - is this sort of thing marked on the alloys themselves? Or would some spaces with an adapted central bore collar suit maybe?

 

[paul the 6th]

Screw the bolts in and the wheel will go over the hub. When I had these alloys, they were doing the same thing. I just tightened the bolts up and on they went.

EDIT: Yeah or the centre bore is wrong. They should be 60.1 I think? Someone will be along to correct me if not.

I tried to get one bolt in but gave up after I spent 20 mins trying to get it to bite.. Really hoping it's just me being a r****d but will try when there's daylight tomorrow

 

[Matt W]

It should have the bore printed on the inside of the wheel.

Possibly.

 

[paul the 6th]

just measured the bore and it looks to be more like 58mm or there abouts. F*ck my life.

Ok so new question = is it possible to get spacers which fit the original 60.1mm bore, but which have a 58mm bore to suit these alloys? If so how much would I be looking to pay and where from?

 

[TarkMalbot]

Maybe with a hub adaptor something like this but you also end up with a wider track:

http://www.performancealloys.com/hub-Adaptor-details.aspx?ID=439

Perhaps not these exact ones but you get the idea. The cost involved might be more than sending the wheels back and getting the correct centre bore?

 

[M.C..]

best thing to do is pop into a local engineering company and ask them to machine the centre bore out
If you paid full price send them back and ask them to change them

 

[paul the 6th]

best thing to do is pop into a local engineering company and ask them to machine the centre bore out
If you paid full price send them back and ask them to change them

cheers lads, these are 2nd hand from eBay and I should have checked so not much chance of a refund - I think getting them machined would be easier than trying to post them back etc. They look great and are exactly what I need, just need to find someone local who can machine them out the 2-3mm or so which they need.

 

[imprezaworks]

Centre bore on the clio is 60.1

 

[scooby-93]

I had this bother aswell recently, cost me £20 to get the centre bores re bored to 60.1mm, just ring up your local engineering firms and ask if they can/will do it

 

[alexapps]

Probably worth checking you haven't got spigot rings that you can remove for a larger set, the three sets I have in this size use them so I would be surprised if these where any different (one second hand set I bought had 58mm spigots iirc).

-Alex

 

[imprezaworks]

I bought some team dynamic wheels with a 73.1 bore. So bought some 73.1>60.1 spigot rings

 

[_WILL_]

I am sure someone will tell me I am wrong but I thought all TD need spigot rings and as such these should fit with the correct rings fitted. As above thought they were all 73.1?

 

[imprezaworks]

That's my thoughts too. They are multifit to obviously fit a selection of cars

 

[M.C..]

Most will be multifit with spigot rings but you can special order them with direct bore fit I have two sets with 60.1 centre bore

 

[paul the 6th]

Cheers lads, I can understand how the spigot rings work if the centre bore on the alloy is bigger than that on the car, but in this instance the alloy CB is smaller hence it won't actually go on... Unless there are stepped spigot rings which go the other way? The CB on these alloys is around 58mm hence its too tight to actually locate on the car.

Also checked the eBay listing - there was no mention of CB size hence why I've missed it

 

[paul the 6th]

Probably worth checking you haven't got spigot rings that you can remove for a larger set, the three sets I have in this size use them so I would be surprised if these where any different (one second hand set I bought had 58mm spigots iirc).

-Alex

Checked and there's no old rings in there unfortunately

 

[imprezaworks]

Either sell them or get them enlarged

 

[paul the 6th]

I know. That's the point I've been at since about 5 this afternoon, was just explaining to the other comments above telling me to get spigot rings

 

[imprezaworks]

I wasnt being funny mate, thats the only option unfortunatly

 

[Ph1 Tom]

They'll be VW fit unfortunately. Either sell them on or get them machined out.

 

[scooby-93]

If you decide to sell drop me a PM but as I said Youl pay £20-£50 to get the bores redo done

 

[Martin.]

Just get them bored out. Then you'll end up with a proper fitting set, without the need to use shitty plastic spigot rings.

Most sets (not all) of TD1.2s need to run spigot rings, because the centre bor is drilled very bit for multiple fitments - with spigot rings.