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172 in a mk1, Superfatdan's very very long project....



So i've had this car for nearly 4 years. I bought it from a member on here, Brad Harding, back in sep 2008.

1993 K plate Clio 1.8 16v with a Hybrid 2.0 bottom end.

This project has taken a long time (and still isn't finished! lol) owing largely to the fact that I have two small children, a wife that will be ill for the rest of her life and two businesses. Basically, I don't get much time! But this car is my baby and I don't care if it takes another 4 years, as long as its done properly.

I first saw the car on here way before that and as soon as I did, I sent him a pm stating that i'd buy it as soon as he was going to sell it. Two years on, he pm'ed me and I jumped in my wifes car with my dad and was off to Leicester as fast as possible...

Now, whilst it was a nice looking car, I can honestly say I bought this thing with rose tinted glasses.

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SO I drove it round like that for about 6 months. I changed the headlights from the awful angel eyes back to the originals.

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Then one day whilst out with a mate, he uttered the fatal words.... ''IT doesn't feel as fast as your williams''

And he was right. I just put it down to (at the time) also owning a 320bhp M3 so the clio feeling naturally slower. But him saying it made me realise that something was a miss.

So I rang three different ''specialists'' in renaults about a throttle body conversion...

Now I'm a simple man with a simple outlook. I wanted someone to quote me, I drop car off, I go back after some time with a fist full of pound notes and I collect my newly built fire spitting bodied clio... But no. Not one of these ''specialists'' even bothered to quote me.

Oh well, their loss!

So it was decided (during some stupid piss up!) that me and my mechanicwould do the engine swap from a 172.

So I went and bought a ph1 172 from a member off here that had been written off (lightly!)

We then transferred the following bits into the mk1 shell...

172 engine, Gearbox, clutch, driveshafts, bottom arms, discs, calipers, radiator, alternator.... I basically wanted a 172 in a mk1 shell.

Whilst doing it, I hounded Jordan Fox and chris Whiteley (off here) as they had already done the conversion so massive massive respect to them. When I eventually meet them, the beers are on me! My mechanic hates renaults, I am a car valeter so in the grand scheme of things, we needed help! lol.

Eventually, after one evening a month over the period of a year, I ended up with my mk1 172...

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But things weren't right. The suspension was shot to s**t, the exhaust was bodged and tyres were horrific.

SO I went and got a custom exhaust built from the downpipe back, then ordered some FK konigsport suspension (williams fitment) and then did a deal with a guy on here for some TD Pro Races with nearly new PE2's in 195-50-15. Sorted.

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So I drove to work and back in it like that for about 6 months or so, covering about 1000 miles. There were a few niggles, but on the whole, it was good!
I figured out that the fuel pump wasn't up to the job, the suspension needed a pro to set it up properly and ideally It needed someone who knew 172's and mk1's to go over it.

Sadly, nobody was keen to help me so me and my track-day best mate decided that enough was enough, we'll do it ourselves!

My track day buddy is Sam, he's a lot younger than me, a lot cleverer than me and a lot more talented than me. And he's better looking... But he's a fcuking brilliant mate and has never given up on my car. He's come close a few times though..

Sam is the owner of this... http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...rly-finished&p=8636150&viewfull=1#post8636150

While up at my mechanics one day picking a car up, I decided to have a look at the clio's underside as (stupidly!) even when buying it, I had never done it.

Well that day was a day i'll never forget...

It was rotten! There was rust everywhere. Despite being told that the car had new sills and rear wings, it had infact been bodged together with filler and mastik. I was mortified.

So after a long think, I decided to buy a 172 and break the clio, there was nothing else I could do.

But then, Whiteley from this very forum advertised his bare shell, complete with cage.
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So I was watching it on ebay, it got to the last 10 seconds and I stuck in a cheeky bid...

But i'm a prick and lost it by £20. FFs. :(

Down trodden and disheartened, I just put the clio to the back of my mind and got on with life. Even bought myself an Impreza to cheer myself up!

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Then, out of the blue, the new owner of Whiteley's shell had a change of heart! :D:D:D He wanted to sell me the shell as he had too much going on to carry on with it.

So, with no hesitations, me and sam jumped in the truck and drove the (very!!) long way to get my new shell.

So thats as it stands, I have a fully functioning clio mk1 with a 172 engine but a rotten shell, and a 95% rust free shell with no running gear.

Current spec of Rusty Mc Rustbodge:

172 engine with aircon and Power steering delete.
Clio williams subframe, ARB and steering rack (with ends looped to get rid of power steering)
172 brakes with DS2500's, Brembo HC's
Braided lines
Espace V6 Airbox with ITG race element
FK Konigsport suspension
Single box exhaust with 2.75" bore from front to back. 3" tailpipe.
Custom Renaulsport Seat, 3" OMP harnesses
Ktec/Vibratec engine mounts
RS matched inlets

And the lovely new shell that its all going in to this saturday/sunday.

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I have booked a track day for the 7th of june and have booked two days off work this week to get the grey car re-shelled...

Got my work cut out! lol.

So plans are...

This weekend: Paint engine bay gloss black, reshell car, scrap grey shell after stripping it for spares.

Do a track day with Burpspeed on the 7th of june.

Get interior of car painted gloss black, exterior will either be painted in original mk1 16v grey or wrapped in satin grey, i'm not sure yet.

Then, next winter I want to supercharge it, but thats a long way off yet.

Apologies for the essay, I will update with more pictures after this weekends work.

(providing my wifes home from hospital on friday!!)

Much love.
 
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So far I've just been errand boy fetching relays and fuel lines from the scrapyard etc. Mikes making good progress on the loom though in my absence. Clocks ticking though as dan needs to kick us out at 5.

In my defence, I did try and persuade you not to get involved with it! lol.
 
Lol. Shut it fatty. It will be fine.

Just a bit more work for you and Sam to do between it first firing and it getting mot'd and mapped etc. although dan is making progress with some of the mechanical stuff anyway for you while me and mike are doing the engine.
 
I just want to tell the three of you now (not face to face because I don't do nice) that I am so so so so grateful for what you're doing and you will be rewarded properly.

At some point. When i've got some money. And i've paid the Tax man. And the VAT man....
 
Well if it helps, the Exclusive has some braided lines which can be used, plus any other random bits that are needed x
 
Well if it helps, the Exclusive has some braided lines which can be used, plus any other random bits that are needed x

I fitted braided lines to the car but in the 3 (tops!) months thats its been parked up, the plastic coating just peeled away and the lines went black and gammy. They weren't cheapo ebay jobs either, they were goodridge.
 
Thats a bit odd, both the exclusives have them and both are fine :-/

well anyway it's there if we need it mate - oh let me know about Friday asap dude, if not Friday how about the following Monday?
 
It runs now. But LOTS of work still to do. It's nowhere near drivable. Not got proper fuel lines. Loom is only half made as there is no car look to connect to etc.

But at least the main hurdle of having it running is now sorted.
 
It runs now. But LOTS of work still to do. It's nowhere near drivable. Not got proper fuel lines. Loom is only half made as there is no car look to connect to etc.

But at least the main hurdle of having it running is now sorted.

Chip, pm me your number and 'll call you tomorrow if thats ok?

I would do it now but i've only got 3% on my battery.
 
Chip would have to tell you that mate. I've got no idea.

Dan's just text me the list of ''todo's'' for before he sees it next, all stuff which I (hopefully) can manage.

Interior loom finish off (NOT ME!! Im s**t with electrics!)
Fuel lines (as they're cable tied on) and the return lines.
Rad fan connections
All brake lines (after Dan kindly fitted my Cup master cylinder)
All fluids refreshing
Tracking.

Bish bash bosh, bob's your monkhouse.

Although if I'm mot'ing it i'll also need a washer, wipers, horn, indicators.... thinking about it, Fcuk the MOT.
 
MOT would be useful to me when mapping it, but Im sure we can get one mate ;)

Still quite a bit of wiring to do on the engine loom as well that isnt on that list, and sadly we are going to be out of time today, and tomorrow I cant come back as have other stuff.

But we'll sort it soon, once you have the other bits done.


You can NOT drive it on the map on it currently though, start and idle is all I have mapped as it has no coolant so we cant run it for more than a few seconds, once you have a coolant system and proper fuel lines etc I can progress with the rest, at the moment it has an entirely guessed map that may well not be safe at all to actually see any load, I need to do that side of it once I can run it for longer.
 
Gotcha loud and clear fella. Tbh, I won't even start it because basically I have no clue what you lot have done today so wouldn't want to undo any of that.

Looking forward to collecting it tomorrow though, and spending a day wth Russel on friday. :D
 
At least it lives, well done Chippy and Mike, oh and Dan.

TBH in order of effort put in today I think its more Mike, Dan, Chippy, I've been mainly acting in a supervisory capacity (ie eating chocolate, lol)



You need a coilpack as well BTW dan, it was only on 2 cylinders initially, till we swapped Dan's one on, but he needs that back.
 
I have a few coilpacks, i keep them as spares.

Can I just re-thank Mike, Chip and Dan for their efforts today. If it wasn;t for you three the car would have been sold by now as I had 4 people express serious interest in it. Massive massive thank you. :)
 
I can't find them!! Just turned my box inside out.

I'm seeing sam at dinnertime though so I'll steal his. Just asked bomber to buy his two just incase! lol.
 
Cool.

Would be ludicrously easy to turbo it this winter now it's on after market by the way ;)

Mate, if I can do a couple of track days in it as standard before xmas, its 99% on the cards (funds permitting, she's getting a little twitchy now she's seen all the reciepts! lol)
 
I got them all out to do the advert.

Wish i'd never bothered! Made me feel sick and then she bleated on about moving house etc.
 


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