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172 in a mk1, Superfatdan's very very long project....



So i've had this car for nearly 4 years. I bought it from a member on here, Brad Harding, back in sep 2008.

1993 K plate Clio 1.8 16v with a Hybrid 2.0 bottom end.

This project has taken a long time (and still isn't finished! lol) owing largely to the fact that I have two small children, a wife that will be ill for the rest of her life and two businesses. Basically, I don't get much time! But this car is my baby and I don't care if it takes another 4 years, as long as its done properly.

I first saw the car on here way before that and as soon as I did, I sent him a pm stating that i'd buy it as soon as he was going to sell it. Two years on, he pm'ed me and I jumped in my wifes car with my dad and was off to Leicester as fast as possible...

Now, whilst it was a nice looking car, I can honestly say I bought this thing with rose tinted glasses.

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SO I drove it round like that for about 6 months. I changed the headlights from the awful angel eyes back to the originals.

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Then one day whilst out with a mate, he uttered the fatal words.... ''IT doesn't feel as fast as your williams''

And he was right. I just put it down to (at the time) also owning a 320bhp M3 so the clio feeling naturally slower. But him saying it made me realise that something was a miss.

So I rang three different ''specialists'' in renaults about a throttle body conversion...

Now I'm a simple man with a simple outlook. I wanted someone to quote me, I drop car off, I go back after some time with a fist full of pound notes and I collect my newly built fire spitting bodied clio... But no. Not one of these ''specialists'' even bothered to quote me.

Oh well, their loss!

So it was decided (during some stupid piss up!) that me and my mechanicwould do the engine swap from a 172.

So I went and bought a ph1 172 from a member off here that had been written off (lightly!)

We then transferred the following bits into the mk1 shell...

172 engine, Gearbox, clutch, driveshafts, bottom arms, discs, calipers, radiator, alternator.... I basically wanted a 172 in a mk1 shell.

Whilst doing it, I hounded Jordan Fox and chris Whiteley (off here) as they had already done the conversion so massive massive respect to them. When I eventually meet them, the beers are on me! My mechanic hates renaults, I am a car valeter so in the grand scheme of things, we needed help! lol.

Eventually, after one evening a month over the period of a year, I ended up with my mk1 172...

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But things weren't right. The suspension was shot to s**t, the exhaust was bodged and tyres were horrific.

SO I went and got a custom exhaust built from the downpipe back, then ordered some FK konigsport suspension (williams fitment) and then did a deal with a guy on here for some TD Pro Races with nearly new PE2's in 195-50-15. Sorted.

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So I drove to work and back in it like that for about 6 months or so, covering about 1000 miles. There were a few niggles, but on the whole, it was good!
I figured out that the fuel pump wasn't up to the job, the suspension needed a pro to set it up properly and ideally It needed someone who knew 172's and mk1's to go over it.

Sadly, nobody was keen to help me so me and my track-day best mate decided that enough was enough, we'll do it ourselves!

My track day buddy is Sam, he's a lot younger than me, a lot cleverer than me and a lot more talented than me. And he's better looking... But he's a fcuking brilliant mate and has never given up on my car. He's come close a few times though..

Sam is the owner of this... http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...rly-finished&p=8636150&viewfull=1#post8636150

While up at my mechanics one day picking a car up, I decided to have a look at the clio's underside as (stupidly!) even when buying it, I had never done it.

Well that day was a day i'll never forget...

It was rotten! There was rust everywhere. Despite being told that the car had new sills and rear wings, it had infact been bodged together with filler and mastik. I was mortified.

So after a long think, I decided to buy a 172 and break the clio, there was nothing else I could do.

But then, Whiteley from this very forum advertised his bare shell, complete with cage.
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So I was watching it on ebay, it got to the last 10 seconds and I stuck in a cheeky bid...

But i'm a prick and lost it by £20. FFs. :(

Down trodden and disheartened, I just put the clio to the back of my mind and got on with life. Even bought myself an Impreza to cheer myself up!

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Then, out of the blue, the new owner of Whiteley's shell had a change of heart! :D:D:D He wanted to sell me the shell as he had too much going on to carry on with it.

So, with no hesitations, me and sam jumped in the truck and drove the (very!!) long way to get my new shell.

So thats as it stands, I have a fully functioning clio mk1 with a 172 engine but a rotten shell, and a 95% rust free shell with no running gear.

Current spec of Rusty Mc Rustbodge:

172 engine with aircon and Power steering delete.
Clio williams subframe, ARB and steering rack (with ends looped to get rid of power steering)
172 brakes with DS2500's, Brembo HC's
Braided lines
Espace V6 Airbox with ITG race element
FK Konigsport suspension
Single box exhaust with 2.75" bore from front to back. 3" tailpipe.
Custom Renaulsport Seat, 3" OMP harnesses
Ktec/Vibratec engine mounts
RS matched inlets

And the lovely new shell that its all going in to this saturday/sunday.

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I have booked a track day for the 7th of june and have booked two days off work this week to get the grey car re-shelled...

Got my work cut out! lol.

So plans are...

This weekend: Paint engine bay gloss black, reshell car, scrap grey shell after stripping it for spares.

Do a track day with Burpspeed on the 7th of june.

Get interior of car painted gloss black, exterior will either be painted in original mk1 16v grey or wrapped in satin grey, i'm not sure yet.

Then, next winter I want to supercharge it, but thats a long way off yet.

Apologies for the essay, I will update with more pictures after this weekends work.

(providing my wifes home from hospital on friday!!)

Much love.
 
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:dapprove: As said mate, fully see why, so chip up, onwards and upwards! Better you have a car you can actually use, rather than it picking away at you getting you more down every time you look at it :(
 
Gutted for you dan, I think I know what this car/project meant to you. I'd like to be able to take it off your hands, need our Megane sold first sadly
 
It meant the world to me mate, still does! The huge financial loss doesn't really bother me as it was never about the money, I just bought whatever I needed and knew i'd lose money, thats just a project! But the fact i've spent so much time on it since day one and the fact I was determined to keep it until I die is the bit that makes me sad. I wanted to be that bloke that had an amazing old car sat in his garage. (Granted I am that man now, but its not the same when its a load of bits! lol)
 
I can't buy another clio off of you, can I? I have such a hankering for old cars lately..

Maybe the next one.
 
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What I have offered to do for Dan is go round this saturday when I actually have a day free for once and wire it and get it running using a spare aftermarket ECU I have (same one I run on my turbo, Mtech V4), then all he needs to do once its working and MOT'd is buy an ECU to replace that one with.

Have also offered to get it MOT'd and map it for him in two weeks when I next have some time off.


The reason I have offered that rather than offer to try and fix it on the standard ECU is that I see time spent on getting it working on the standard ECU as totally wasted as if he keeps the car he'll be going aftermarket later on and also because Ive no experience of retrofitting an F4R ecu into a mk1 and no knowledge of how well he has half converted it now I dont know how long that would take me to sort, where as the aftermarket I know I can have in and working this saturday (especially as it wont just be me as by happy co-incidence me and Mike from MWM are having of a "mates working on cars weekend" this weekend down in somerset blitzing a load of jobs on various projects of mine so no problem to just through one extra thing in the mix for us to do, we both like a challenge anyway.
 
I've got a few jobs needing done on my GTI-6 track car and don't have time...

Do you like haggis and deep fried mars bars?

;)
 
I've got a few jobs needing done on my GTI-6 track car and don't have time...

Do you like haggis and deep fried mars bars?

;)


Flol, nice try, TBH I have plenty of my own stuff to do so not normally available for helping others much but as its interesting (I really do LOVE this car) Dan is such a nice guy and its something so simple that he needs (just installing and mapping an aftermarket ecu) help with, I thought I would offer in this case.

Just depends if Dan has lost heart in the project though, after so long he might have just stupidly convinced himself now that it will never work etc, which is silly as given that the engine was a good low miles one etc there really is no reason for it to have a problem once on aftermarket and then if he wants to supercharge or turbo it later one so long as he does the mechanical stuff to do so I can then just pop around and remap it for him again no drama.
 
I've pm'd Dan about this. It's just what I'm after Chip would you still fix map it and supply ecu if I was to pay ofcourse?

Only fair after you beating me to the turbo ha!

Paul.
 
Whats funny?

Im not asking for a favor? I was willing to pay not only for the work to be done but for the spare ecu. If dan wants to sell and this would of made a sale i fail to see how it's funny

He problably just skim read your post and didnt realise you were offering to pay.
 
I've pm'd Dan about this. It's just what I'm after Chip would you still fix map it and supply ecu if I was to pay ofcourse?

Only fair after you beating me to the turbo ha!

Paul.

I'm trying to reply to you but you need to clear your pm's.
 
Sounds like its the venue we are struggling on more than the people currently then, lol

TBH though, doesnt really take 10 peple to wire in an ecu.
 


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