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Clio 172 Cup Mondial
sorry what? idiots peak power is from 4.8k to 6.8k so you change gear when you hit 6.8k to stay above 4.8k in the next gear. if you drive fast might as well shift properly? and no it doesn't my 182 comes on song at 5k...
Clio 172 Cup Mondial
clearly not driven a 172/ 182 then peak power at 6.2k
SC03OTT
ClioSport Club Member
Octavia vRS
Nope. But given that we're talking about the ST, does that matter...
Yours must of been broken then. Never had a problem Revving any Cliosport to the redline. Maybe you had a bag of rusty chisels under your bonnet. Lol
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Much better, yeah. Mine isn't worth bothering with unless you stir it past 7k.
So much so, i've resorted to driving everywhere like this, just in case.
In completely unrelated news, Renault do not honour warranty when they can change the clutch by bleeding it out in liquid form.
TBH I didn't ever have a 'problem' revving it to 7000rpm in my 182. It just wasn't very smooth or rewarding in that zone. Very rough sounding and buzzy. Not in the same league as something from Honda. In fact my turbo car revs faster and sweeter (not to mention higher) than my 182 did.
i think it's just the type of engine it is. I think the f4r was perfect for the Clio. My honda revs to 14k ; )
Oh yeah don't get mew wrong. I loved it at the time, but let's be honest, a 182 with a Civic Type R engine & box would probably have been pretty close to perfection (with a decent driving position and proper steering wheel thrown in)
Someone on here recently posted something about the F4R being under-square (I'm sure many engines are) which means higher piston speeds per crank revolution, which means limited ability to go full-vtec. It's perhaps interesting that the same engine in Clio III feels so much more refined and eager to spin without feeling like it's about to throw a rod. Perhaps improved engine mounts? Lighter pistons?
Clio 172 Cup Mondial
182 may not actually have the acclaimed 182horses. but it certainly puts what is has down well on the tarmac!
M2 Comp
Go on, i'm interested to hear more.
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Oh it is, it's of a better quality product in terms of build. Dat' gearbox etc.
However, to the untrained eye - you're trolling like a bad ass.
However, to the untrained eye - you're trolling like a bad ass.
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
My brothers ST.
Im convincing him to get the ST wheels!
RDH summarised this thread well, some mongs in here getting very confused with Clarkson syndrome.
The st is a very good car for what it is. It's built sufficiently, handles well, and its quick enough to have some fun in. As stated earlier in the thread, the Clio is a better car to drive when driven in anger, but not everyone's main priority in a car is driver involvement, some like cars where the steering wheel isn't made of recycled liquorice.
Im convincing him to get the ST wheels!
RDH summarised this thread well, some mongs in here getting very confused with Clarkson syndrome.
The st is a very good car for what it is. It's built sufficiently, handles well, and its quick enough to have some fun in. As stated earlier in the thread, the Clio is a better car to drive when driven in anger, but not everyone's main priority in a car is driver involvement, some like cars where the steering wheel isn't made of recycled liquorice.
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
The standard 17" wheels absolutley ruin them, 16" wheels are so much better.
LMAO learn how to read what I actually wrote and not what you want to think I wrote. Nowhere did I mention the clio.
The Fiesta ST isnt a proper hot hatch and they are slow. Im talking Focus RS, Megane RS, Golf GTI, Cupra R, s3. Those are proper hothatches.
The clio 1 and 2's are really old now, anyone can afford one, just like most other 11 year old cars.
BG 182
Mackerel season soon f**k yeah!
M2 Comp
Sorry, you never mentioned you were comparing the ST to 20k+ hot hatches.... there was me thinking the OP had asked about the 182 vs ST.
iceberg phase 2 172
fiesta ST is not a bad car , but not AS quick as a 182 , theres a white 1 by me , looks very nice indeed , has the mountune 185 kit but got left by a saxo vts , plus im sure their alot more to run on juice than a 172/182 ?
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
No way a mountune kitted ST would be left by a VTS. The saxo might keep with it but no way would it 'leave it'.
M2 Comp
Yes - the 172/182 is a fair bit better on fuel IME. I could never really maintain above 30mpg in the ST, but the 182 seems to do 37/38mpg with ease.
iceberg phase 2 172
genuine , the driver of the st even admitted it , he was pretty pissed off as he now thinks maybe it isnt the 185 kit lol . i dont know what mods were on the saxo though , they had 2 blasts , 1 down a bypass ans the 2nd up a long straight hill and he couldnt get near the saxo
Again, perhaps reading and actually digesting what someones writing might help to you get further in life.
I said the ST is owned by those who cant afford a proper hothatch, ie the 20k ones.
Oh and just for good measure, I paid 17.8k for my brand new Cupra K1 in 2009.
The ST in all measurers, is a young boys car.
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Ah so the Saxo was modified?
I'd be dubious over the ST having the 185 kit then, they go exceptionally well when up and above 170bhp. We had an ST a few years ago with 190bhp and it absolutley flew. Had a VTS briefly at the same time - the Fiesta was a fair bit quicker (i'm a VTS fan boy!)
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
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