GDI 227bhp ITB`d 172 cup
weighs less than that cause its stripped, keep ya informed cause getting it bak nxt week hopefullly. :rasp:
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weighs less than that cause its stripped, keep ya informed cause getting it bak nxt week hopefullly. :rasp:
im loving the new 197 in white
PMSL! I had to find a picture of a keyboard and a warrior last time. But that's even better!
*right click save as*
LOL sorry but I can't be arsed to get involved in a debate about it mate - exchanging schoolground insults on a Saturday night doesn't really do it for me TBH. You're a c**k, and that's the end of it :rasp:
In isolation, and view on the blue background (as I do) that picture you've cropped or whatever, looks magnificent!
NEED V6!
Sounds quick it'll get to 60 in 6secs an to 100mph in around 15.50 secs not bad could be tempted with the money i've been saving for the R26 in Liquid yellow.
Great Value, when is it available to order etc.
Great Value, when is it available to order etc.
i still cant get used to the back lights on it
Your not doing the stereotype of, Cantankerous moaning Scotch Git any favours. Complete the act by dying of heart disease you pleb.
i prefer the 182 to the 197 though, i dont mind change but i just feel there could have been a model in betweent the new and old clio
brisa4984
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should have come with a boot spoiler.
Where did you get that information dude? Surely it would need to be losing around 200kg or more, for those kinds of figures to even be in the ballpark?
is it fook!!!! and i have only been in a standard 197, its the future!
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deary me, i don't even know Mr Wiggum! But does it not say something with all the anti ja.jack sentiment within this thread? I think you should look further than the fact you are Scottish (i only found that out tonight.) and look at the reasoning may be behind your posting.
It hardly matters tbh as i have reported the problems you create for me, for what ever reasosn they are (only you know that.) to DK, the chief moderator.
It hardly matters tbh as i have reported the problems you create for me, for what ever reasosn they are (only you know that.) to DK, the chief moderator.
Reported also.
All you do is constantly flame bait and upset people.
Forum needs less people like you on it.#
Comment about being Scottish retracted, this has nothing to do with your attitude, you still an arsewipe though.
All you do is constantly flame bait and upset people.
Forum needs less people like you on it.#
Comment about being Scottish retracted, this has nothing to do with your attitude, you still an arsewipe though.
I just wish I could even hazzard a guess at the weight saving. AC could be maybe as much as 15kg factoring in the compressor, clutch and hoses etc? Smaller things like electric mirror motors obviously add up if there are enough small savings. The talk of different dash materials and door cards interests me, but frankly I don't know what they're like in the standard Clio III, so perhaps it really does just mean cheaper sunday market interior. There's no mention of things like thinner glass, but then it's still early days. I can't imagine we would be talking more than c. 80kg, although anything is welcome, and it will look the b****cks and out handle every hot hatch out there.
Cup FTW
EDIT: I think the standard 197 is around 1240kg right? Surely the Cup has to to come in under 1200kg or it'll just be seen as a 182Cup. Also just thinking - they cannot remove the ABS, which was a fairly big saving in the 172Cup wasn't it? The pump, rotors and sensors and things. All of which the 197 has to keep by law. Hmmm. C'mon renault you f*****s - do us proud eh
EDIT2: I'd personally have to have AC also (climae if they do it) so I would probably be saving about 3 ounces and would have a low rent interior...
Cup FTW
EDIT: I think the standard 197 is around 1240kg right? Surely the Cup has to to come in under 1200kg or it'll just be seen as a 182Cup. Also just thinking - they cannot remove the ABS, which was a fairly big saving in the 172Cup wasn't it? The pump, rotors and sensors and things. All of which the 197 has to keep by law. Hmmm. C'mon renault you f*****s - do us proud eh
EDIT2: I'd personally have to have AC also (climae if they do it) so I would probably be saving about 3 ounces and would have a low rent interior...
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I'd personally have a R27 - oh I will have in November.
I just wish I could even hazzard a guess at the weight saving. AC could be maybe as much as 15kg factoring in the compressor, clutch and hoses etc? Smaller things like electric mirror motors obviously add up if there are enough small savings. The talk of different dash materials and door cards interests me, but frankly I don't know what they're like in the standard Clio III, so perhaps it really does just mean cheaper sunday market interior. There's no mention of things like thinner glass, but then it's still early days. I can't imagine we would be talking more than c. 80kg, although anything is welcome, and it will look the b****cks and out handle every hot hatch out there.
Cup FTW
EDIT: I think the standard 197 is around 1240kg right? Surely the Cup has to to come in under 1200kg or it'll just be seen as a 182Cup. Also just thinking - they cannot remove the ABS, which was a fairly big saving in the 172Cup wasn't it? The pump, rotors and sensors and things. All of which the 197 has to keep by law. Hmmm. C'mon renault you f**kers - do us proud eh
EDIT2: I'd personally have to have AC also (climae if they do it) so I would probably be saving about 3 ounces and would have a low rent interior...
Does the 197 have a spare wheel as standard? Deleting that will be a nice saving (until you get a puncture of course!)
RE deleting the a/c - aside from the weight saving there is also no drain on the engine powering it (which is why 172 Cups tend to perform well on RRs' compared to 172FF I believe). Also its cheaper (easier) to change the cambelt (at least it is for a 172 Cup).
Maybe Renault need to look at lighter body panels/ wheels (too expensive?) and less sound deadening to make a worthwhile saving over the standard model.
Interesting about the sound deadening. I work in the industry and know first hand that some of the material they use these days is thick & heavy. The stuff behind the dash and in the footwells of the Freelander 2 is up to an inch thick.
Removing lots of it would add up to a fair few kilos I imagine. It'd also make the car one noisy f**ker, but this is the Cup right, so that's ok :evil: If they wanted to go mad like that then electric windows could be dumped (is there any non-electric hardware already engineered for Clio III?) but at some point no one will buy the damn thing if it's just a good handling tin of nails.
I for one await some more details, until then it's all just speculation. Interesting all the same, especially as it looks so damn good.
Removing lots of it would add up to a fair few kilos I imagine. It'd also make the car one noisy f**ker, but this is the Cup right, so that's ok :evil: If they wanted to go mad like that then electric windows could be dumped (is there any non-electric hardware already engineered for Clio III?) but at some point no one will buy the damn thing if it's just a good handling tin of nails.
I for one await some more details, until then it's all just speculation. Interesting all the same, especially as it looks so damn good.
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