As a platform for further tuning I'd say the 182 cup is ideal. No pretentious ''leather seats'' power sapping air con, fancy heavy lighting. 182 cup has got the superior exhaust manifold and crankshaft mod that contributed to the extra 10 bhp. Not to mention better braking system than 172.
A wee prediction for you: 197s will never be modded to the extent the MK2s have been, are being, and will be.
You can also get it in the best colour.
As a platform for further tuning I'd say the 182 cup is ideal. No pretentious ''leather seats'' power sapping air con, fancy heavy lighting. 182 cup has got the superior exhaust manifold and crankshaft mod that contributed to the extra 10 bhp. Not to mention better braking system than 172.
A wee prediction for you: 197s will never be modded to the extent the MK2s have been, are being, and will be.
You can also get it in the best colour.
Even after explaining it to you you've still missed the point. The 182 Cup and 197 Cup are cheap versions. Plain and simple. Poverty spec. They sell in small numbers because of that. Excellent drivers cars yes, but at the end of the day lacking the comforts the majority of drives (not the tiny number of Renaultsport owners on ClioSport) actually want.
I predict you are wrong. I predict it will take a long time before serious mods start appearing as they were on the 172/182. And they'll be expensive for very little gain.
IF it's a race you're after, Gaz, I'd blow your bonnet and bootlid off.
If it's a fight, I'll get Ali V6 to take you on. I'm far too old. lol
I knew that about the air con, just got carried away in defence of me motor. Just surprised that Fred did'nt know about crank mod on 182. But there again, he's not a mechanic, so probably never removed or refitted one.
i quite fancy this more that the 197 cup
http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/latestnews/roadcars/story.asp?ArticleID=1719
I knew that about the air con, just got carried away in defence of me motor. Just surprised that Fred did'nt know about crank mod on 182. But there again, he's not a mechanic, so probably never removed or refitted one.
197 Cup seems like a complete waste of time, it's still a bloated car which is 150/200kg over and above it's fighting weight.
Crap product.
I'm glad someone agrees with me.
Don't be so negative - I imagine it'll be a fantastic car for a good price and a great price once you've haggled with a salesperson.
This isn't evolution though Tom this is just repeated their trend along the line of the 182 Cup and creating a market for a lesser car whilst dressing it up as a go faster more track focused version. Although as said the new box is a worthy inclusion, but that shouldn't just be for the Cup.
The one thing IMO they've missed is the inclusion of a boot spoiler.
This isn't evolution though Tom this is just repeated their trend along the line of the 182 Cup and creating a market for a lesser car whilst dressing it up as a go faster more track focused version. Although as said the new box is a worthy inclusion, but that shouldn't just be for the Cup.
The one thing IMO they've missed is the inclusion of a boot spoiler.
Lol You're being naive,Tom, thinking this latest no hoper is going to set the automotive world on fire.
Lol You're being naive,Tom, thinking this latest no hoper is going to set the automotive world on fire.
When did i say that?
However i will say this;
The 172 cup arrived had very little changes over a 172 but what a difference it was! and all down to a few minor changes and some weight reduction.
If you think about it (i know thats tough jack but try) like that the 197 cup could be onto a winner.
Well CynicSport all come out with the same drivel every time a new variant is launched.
If they had thier way we'd be driving megane engined clios that could eat supercars without you waking up do drive it.
YAWN!
Try something before you slate it. Then you are welcome to moan.