200 = the new bug eye scoob

[R20 CWH]

so the 200 - a masterpiece of design or a rotten egg?
sure its got its critics and fans alike on the forum, best driving experience of all the RS clios ever made and better built etc. (APPARENTLY)

However one nagging concern is despite all the praise and development of the renault brand towards the new nose and flat face its looking more and more apparent that the general motoring public feel its a bug eye scoob in the making.

Theres a new clio due on 2-3 years, which nothing new there, the shape is being updated and there we go, must cars do get this, however having read with considerable interest over the past months both on this forum and the net its looking like it could be a right 'fail' in the 2nd hand car market and thus make it suffer the same fate as the bug eye scoob which was very very marmite.

What would you rather have? 57 reg R27 with all the kit on it, in a nice colour (say nimbus) or a 09 reg 200 looking a bit fish facey and rancid?

200 - nah. Its been a huge mistake renault.

no contest its not aggressive and looks pap.

for info i own neither of the above so not biased.

 

[bmh.01]

Whilst the side profile and rear are an improvement, I just don't feel the front seperates it from a normal cooking model enough like it did with the 1*2 and 197.

 

[Bluebeard]

I cannot agree more. The 200 looks f**king awful imo.

 

[.Ben.]

Personally - and this isn't going to be a popular thread amongst new 200 owners - I hope s/h values drop like a stone. In 4-5 years time, I'll be able to pick up a supposedly fantastic hatch for peanuts.

Awesome, you've got to love Marmite.

 

[.GAZ.]

I love them both tbh, 200 needs to be white or AG with black speedlines tho

 

[Lagerlout]

I don't think either of them look that great, but prefer the 197 !

 

[.GAZ.]

Nero, i couldn't agree more matey lol

 

[DrR]

Agree with nero also! The wheels as standard look so gash to, Halfords specials.

 

[Pinkorstink]

I'll take the 200 anyday.

 

[blondie.x]

i'm not a fan of either, though if made to pick i would go for the 197. i just think they're too big.. and the front of the 200 is just foul.

 

[seb]

it is no bug eye subaru level of uglyness. it ain't great though by a long way...

 

[Munson]

It's a masterclass. In how to not style a car. Simple Jack could have done a better job. The front end is a complete f**king disaster zone.

 

[stuart1989]

the 200 is a f**king munter... Awful.

 

[R20 CWH]

definitely lacks aggression and for a 'range topper' its a huge let down.

its bad news when the GT looks better

^^ 7/10

^^ 0/10

 

[Jay]

definitely lacks aggression and for a 'range topper' its a huge let down.

its bad news when the GT looks better

^^ 7/10

^^ 0/10

agree with that.

 

[meady100]

Depends what you have been staring at for longest. I never had any interest in the 197, and spent hours scrutinising the 200s before buying one. When I actually looked at a 197 I found the front end looked really pinched in and beaky! That's what I thought about the Ph2 aswell actually when it first came out (and I owned one of those!).

200 front end = shark
197 front end = eagle

 

[thecremeegg]

Its fugly I'm afraid, I do like the new Megane sport though

 

[stuart1989]

Depends what you have been staring at for longest. I never had any interest in the 197, and spent hours scrutinising the 200s before buying one. When I actually looked at a 197 I found the front end looked really pinched in and beaky! That's what I thought about the Ph2 aswell actually when it first came out (and I owned one of those!).

200 front end = ugly whale
197 front end = eagle

:lolup:

 

[Munson]

Shark? Kermit.

 

[Gally]

I seen a white gt and the front was fine compared with that! ^

 

[Peperami]

I actually prefer the 200's. I think the bold colour with black bits and black speedlines looks fantastic with the new front end.

A Gw 200 with black bits, black speedlines over a 200 cup in white with the same bits anyday for me.

 

[SammyT]

Not a fan either. Would much rather a r27.

 

[JT182]

I don't know. I love the 197 looks, but I'm not a fan of 197's without xenons! It's a tiny thing I know, but they change the looks of the front hugely. If the 200 had xenons, I think it'd look much better. Is it just me being silly!?

197 out of the two then (with xenons of course!), but the 200's marmite looks have grown on me as I did hate them with a passion at first. :S

 

[kevin.s]

still on the fence about them they are one of those cars that look ok in some angles, but cac in others. really dont like the front when it is different colour to the rest of the bumper unless its white with the bits in black but the anthericite looks sh*t and the wheels just dont suit the car. some people are saying thatevery one is concerntrateing on the looks too much and not thinking about the handling and drive of the car. but at the end of the day surely you need all three. you wouldnt drive a reliant robin even if it was the best driving thing on the road just purely because you would be embarresd to.
not saying the 200 is that bad but there are a few people out there that would

 

[Jay]

Agree with JT 197's with xenons do transform the front of the car

 

[Poopensharten]

I would honestly rather a Phase 1 172.

It may have all the gear, but it certainly doesnt have the idea

 

[.GAZ.]

I would honestly rather a Phase 1 172.

It may have all the gear, but it certainly doesnt have the idea

Same here, Ph1 and £11k in my back bin!

 

[SBV116]

The 200 is the 197's uglier, dirtier sister.

I can't see the bonnet from inside.

 

[Ian_182]

Ill take a 200 cup in white please.Just for the lap times it produces alone.....

 

[jordan172]

white is the best colour for the 200

 

[JT182]

Ill take a 200 cup in white please.Just for the lap times it produces alone.....

:lolup:

Oh dear, please tell me that was a joke!? Nah actually after reading a million posts about your obsession with track times on the Trophy/v6 thread, I fear you're not kidding.....!

 

[Brian]

The 200 aint great but then perfection is hard to find nowadays..

 

[stuart1989]

Ill take a 200 cup in white please.Just for the lap times it produces alone.....

182 > 200 on the track...



And in every other way for that matter.

 

[robotsonic]

what i find hard to believe is someone signed that front end off for production
and no one said hold on a minute most people are gonna think thats cack

 

[Brian]

what i find hard to believe is someone signed that front end off for production
and no one said hold on a minute most people are gonna think thats cack

+1

I really want to know what the 'excuse' is

 

[Craigus]

Front end looks gash, looks like any other car from the front, wheels are awfull,

Back looks good though,

 

[Dave..]

The 200 appears to be the result of a Renault brain storming session, except they didn't cross anything off the list, and tried to make the front end, a bit of everything.

Doesn't work. TBH I think the ph2 172 is the best car they designed, all the lines flow properly, and the headlights fit.

 

[kevin.s]

+1

I really want to know what the 'excuse' is

they must of had a hangover.
designer - hey what do you say to this
pi$$d boss guy - uuggghhhh whwwhaat. (with head liying on desk)
designer - iv done the finished design on the clio 200`s front end, what do you think. shall i tell them to put it into production?
pi$$ed boss guy - uuuughggghh yeah what ever. have you got any paracatimol? my head is killin me.

 

[robotsonic]

what makes it worse is the twingo rs missed out on a 2.0 because of this car

 

[Iain C]

The front is bad enough but the wheels look like dezent rims you get from halfrauds for £400!