ABS sensors costs?

Usr117063 · Jan 4, 2020

After a lot of different setups Im going back to standard. But of course I have no abs sensors nor the pump or lines so am wondering about sorting the sensors as they seem to cost loads. Are they cheap ones okay? Getting front/rear hubs from someone breaking with them intact?? Its a 182 ff btw.

hipwell · Jan 4, 2020

ZachB said:
After a lot of different setups Im going back to standard. But of course I have no abs sensors nor the pump or lines so am wondering about sorting the sensors as they seem to cost loads. Are they cheap ones okay? Getting front/rear hubs from someone breaking with them intact?? Its a 182 ff btw.

Nope, cheapest ones I found that fit are made by a company called triscan and are about 50 quid each

Usr117063 · Jan 4, 2020

@hipwell Is that with esp as well? I never even noticed what esp did

botfch · Jan 4, 2020

Guys at Birchdown fitted some for me that where £40 each, not sure on the name but part number is CAMVE701091

Krarl · Jan 4, 2020

I've got a set you can have for cheap. Genuine ones iirc

Krarl · Jan 4, 2020

hipwell · Jan 4, 2020

ZachB said:
@hipwell Is that with esp as well? I never even noticed what esp did

I think they've all got esp haven't they? My 182 cup packed and 172 both had esp and both used the same sensor

JamesBryan · Jan 5, 2020

Triscan for rears are £40 ish and Bosch fronts are £30 each on eBay.

Just replaced a right rear and front left on mine.

Usr117063 · Jan 5, 2020

Thanks guys. Kyle sorted me out on the fronts, rears Im thinkin just get used stub carriers at those prices and hope for the best!

Bankrupt_drunk · Jan 5, 2020

I could do with an abs sensor. Yorkshirekyle, YHPM.

DriftKing · Jan 5, 2020

Ebay link - works perfect on my 172 with esp and cheap too.

JamesBryan · Jan 6, 2020

Rear Passenger Sensor - https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/triscan/7659430

Rear Driver Sensor - https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/triscan/7659429

They're from Germany, so take a few days but they work fine.

DriftKing · Jan 6, 2020

JamesBryan said:
Rear Passenger Sensor - https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/triscan/7659430

Rear Driver Sensor - https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/triscan/7659429

They're from Germany, so take a few days but they work fine.

Wow, they're much more expensive.

JamesBryan · Jan 6, 2020

DriftKing said:
Wow, they're much more expensive.

£37 is expensive? Try £120+ for genuine ones when they were new.

Usr117063 · Jan 8, 2020

Just ordered them. Nearly have all the parts now, waiting on some brake line and trying to decide about the mc, new on or rebuild, new one £££ or rebuild £ Possibility that rebuild =

Usr117063 · Jan 15, 2020

Rear abs sensors ordered again. Someone threw them away, money straight down the drain. Im not the one paying again but its soul destroying, the price doesnt matter if It was a box of fresh doughnuts Id feel the same way, waste is waste..

hipwell · Jan 15, 2020

What do you mean threw them away lol? You only ordered them last week

Usr117063 · Jan 15, 2020

lol they threw the box away as they thought it was just an empty box, lessons learned

hipwell · Jan 15, 2020

Who is they?

The wife?

Happened to me a while back with some camber bolts I'd got saved in the spare bedroom

Bankrupt_drunk · Jan 18, 2020

JamesBryan said:
Triscan for rears are £40 ish and Bosch fronts are £30 each on eBay.

Just replaced a right rear and front left on mine.

I don't suppose you've got a link to the bosch part number for the front?

I've just tried to fit one of these and it is definitely not the right one.

Bosch Front ABS Wheel Speed Sensor 0265007527 WS7527 - GENUINE - 5 YEAR WARRANTY | eBay

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DriftKing · Jan 18, 2020

Just write down part number from the current one and search it. It will be 100%.

JamesBryan · Jan 18, 2020

Bankrupt_drunk said:
I don't suppose you've got a link to the bosch part number for the front?

I've just tried to fit one of these and it is definitely not the right one.

Bosch Front ABS Wheel Speed Sensor 0265007527 WS7527 - GENUINE - 5 YEAR WARRANTY | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Bosch Front ABS Wheel Speed Sensor 0265007527 WS7527 - GENUINE - 5 YEAR WARRANTY at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products!

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Pardon our interruption...

Bankrupt_drunk · Jan 19, 2020

Thank you!

Gus · Jan 19, 2020

Are both fronts the same ? They aren't sided or anything ?

JamesBryan · Jan 19, 2020

Gus said:
Are both fronts the same ? They aren't sided or anything ?

Correct.

Same both sides.

MarcB · Jan 19, 2020

If you are looking for rear ABS sensors for the 182FF /cup / 182 Trophy these are no longer made and can be a pain to get correct.
You are looking at around £50/75 for a rear ABS sensor.

K-Tec sell the correct version but so do some people on ebay.

OE Part Numbers are -

6000073528 - Right Side
6000073527 - Left Side

TriScan fit 100% and I have used them on the trophy.
Here is the details for the Tri scan with cross Ref also below them.

Brand - Triscan
Part number - 8180 25205
Cable Length - [mm]810
Fitting Depth - [mm]41.5
Number of Poles - 2
Fitting Position - Rear Axle
Fitting Position - Left

A.B.S.: 30407
ATE: 24.0741-1129.1
Herth+buss Jakoparts: J5933011
Kawe: 818025205
NK: 293938

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Brand - Triscan
Part number - 8180 25204
Cable Length - [mm]1655
Fitting Depth - [mm]41.5
Number of Poles - 2
Fitting Position - Rear Axle
Fitting Position - Right

A.B.S.: 30408
Herth+buss Jakoparts: J5923011
Kawe: 818025204
NK: 293939
TRW: GBS2126

1985michael182 · Jan 19, 2020

Why you going back to standard m8 what's the problem you've got?

Usr117063 · Jan 19, 2020

1985michael182 said:
Why you going back to standard m8 what's the problem you've got?

In terms of problems Ive had to keep re bleeding the system for a while now, possible master cylinder fault or rear caliper or both. But Im just tired of having to feather the brakes more so they dont lock up, abs makes one less thing to worry about. I didnt swap out a mc because I 'knew' I was going to be fitting a pedal box, but the reality its just too much to do right now because I cant weld going back and forth to a garage is just extra cost I dont want to have to dish out.

I was going to make a post on your thread funnily enough to see how the builds going?

1985michael182 · Jan 19, 2020

Well if you are locking up surely it's either crap tyres or your brake pads are too keen? With mine I have fitted all new lines from proline with bias valve, cup MC and I overhauled the servo. Front brake were refurbished by Biggredcalipers so they are mint and rears I just gave a good service, new bleed nipples and what not. Could be as simple as a good caliper service? Or tired brake pipes?

I'll have a look at my thread later and update it, nothing much happening atm, it's cold outside... I dont like getting cold

1985michael182 · Jan 19, 2020

If you were closer I would have come for a look but hastings is about 6hours drive!

Gus · Jan 19, 2020

JamesBryan said:
Correct.

Same both sides.

Thanks ! ordered two from that link.

Usr117063 · Jan 19, 2020

1985michael182 said:
Well if you are locking up surely it's either crap tyres or your brake pads are too keen? With mine I have fitted all new lines from proline with bias valve, cup MC and I overhauled the servo. Front brake were refurbished by Biggredcalipers so they are mint and rears I just gave a good service, new bleed nipples and what not. Could be as simple as a good caliper service? Or tired brake pipes?

I'll have a look at my thread later and update it, nothing much happening atm, it's cold outside... I dont like getting cold

On ad08rs up front, before that a048. Pads are ds1.11. The pedal travel is so short when bled up there is about 5-10mm between light braking and fully locking up. The pedal then overtime has that similar short travel when the brakes engage, but it happens some 30-40mm further, so you put your foot on the brake, nothing happens or you can hear the pads clunk instantly, they lose pressure, then you keep pressing until it gets hard again, its just light up till that point. Ive checked everywhere and the only thing I can find is the master cylinder possibly leaking and the seals are faulty. I read that this can be the caused by a rear caliper, so Ive got a rebuild kit for them to rule that out, though Im still going to be fitting the abs even if I knew it was only a rear caliper, I kinda want to be lazy and just mash the pedal without thought

Yes being south of the thames can be a bit crap sometimes, theres not many decent roads to get out of the area then you have london so going north takes way longer! Thanks though!

1985michael182 · Jan 19, 2020

You still on the 2port mc or on cup one?

Usr117063 · Jan 19, 2020

cup one

1985michael182 · Jan 19, 2020

Obviously the 2 port has far bigger pipes which plumb into the abs pump maybe that could be a reason why they lock up quick? Then theres a leak somewhere which you then lose pressure ?

Usr117063 · Jan 19, 2020

Its the full 172 cup system mate

1985michael182 · Jan 19, 2020

I personally wouldnt go back to abs now, I felt like it made the vehicle unstable under heavy braking. I would put a day aside with new mc seals, your capiler service kits and if you aren't already on braided, maybe fit them front to rear with the bais valve. Check that your mc is sealing to the servo correctly aswell. Bleed it all up and try again

Usr117063 · Jan 19, 2020

I dont really want to change my mind now lol. Abs loom back in and have ordered everything that I didnt have anymore (everything apart from the loom)

I know it was reliable for me when I had it and Ive absorbed enough brake fluid for more tests lol

1985michael182 · Jan 19, 2020

How did speedo work without abs speed sensors?

Usr117063 · Jan 19, 2020

1985michael182 said:
How did speedo work without abs speed sensors?

it didnt

I knew what speed I was going via rpm and what gear

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