WRX
I never said we'd be at the back
:rasp:I was on track with some, the day before. I think I'd have been about tenth.
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I never said we'd be at the back
:rasp:I was on track with some, the day before. I think I'd have been about tenth.
Bluebeard
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
Well that's encouraging!
Yes you will Adam, its been missed off in this thread. Think its called the AMB 250 or something like that that Tony has. Tbh with you, its probably easier to spend out and buy a new/second hand one as they dont depreciate in value really. So you'll save money in the long run.
Also go for a wired version also i'm told, better than having a battery powered one that goes dead mid race.
182cup & 172 racecar
One would do,and it would be a winner!!
It will happen.
But to get a stand alone race (just french stuff) we need 22 cars to pay for the track time, if that doesn't happen, and Steve cannot keep dipping into his own pocket, then it will share the track with the Nippon Challenge as before.
Although this is good fun, it would be better not be out there with them.
I don't mean 22 cars in this production class, I mean total grid.
182cup & 172 racecar
This aimed at me??
If cheque books start to get thrown around, then you will be asked to leave, this is basic entry level motorsport.
Was thinking of doing a timed penalty for winners, just to drop them down the grid a couple of places, but that's for the main FT lot, but it could carry on down into the production class as well.
182cup & 172 racecar
just lower the rev limit of someone who keeps winning, can't cheat that
You going to be at every meeting to do this? mm, doubt it.
Clio.
Surely the above posts are a form of handicapping then? When we do the Victor meldrew races at Brands the end of the year, they set us off reverse grid and at 5 sec intervals, in theory you should all cross the line at the same time, it brings the cars closer together and makes for an entertaining race.
If its two race format, then why not do an handicapped second race so that the slower chaps can mix it with the fast boys.
.....tony, not directed just at you and jay, no......
Really and truly the regs need publishing first and then its down to the masses to enter, either like it or lump it.....its a great concept, I'm interested in bringing a phase 1 out as it fits the bill, its a shame I can bring my Mk1 out, possibly an invitation class?
If its two race format, then why not do an handicapped second race so that the slower chaps can mix it with the fast boys.
.....tony, not directed just at you and jay, no......
Really and truly the regs need publishing first and then its down to the masses to enter, either like it or lump it.....its a great concept, I'm interested in bringing a phase 1 out as it fits the bill, its a shame I can bring my Mk1 out, possibly an invitation class?
Scrooge
ClioSport Moderator
E55 AMG
182cup & 172 racecar
Forget power to weight and all that shiz, you lot hoon it around on trackdays and don't give toss who's got what.
Who going to police it ? Correct nobody, rolling roads and weigh bridges, forget it, everybody's trying to make this into Super GT, it's a bit of fun in Clio's ffs.
Who going to police it ? Correct nobody, rolling roads and weigh bridges, forget it, everybody's trying to make this into Super GT, it's a bit of fun in Clio's ffs.
Lol.
Well put Uncle Tony.
Everyone wants a cheap series, then they want loads of extra rules to make it less cheap.
That said if it does take off, I guarentee people will be cheating left right and centre a few years down the line as it ALWAYS happens, lol.
I really need 7k and a 172, it seems!
people miss the idea of SIMPLE!
the rules are
Standard car with a working dash (complete)
FIA seat
cage
ABS - free
brakes - stock sized discs front and rear - pads free
exhaust - free
engine - standard
ecu - standard unit - map free
air filter -free
wheels - free
tyres - 1A or 1B
shocks - standard
springs - branded items
done, nothing else, nothing from ebay
the rules are
Standard car with a working dash (complete)
FIA seat
cage
ABS - free
brakes - stock sized discs front and rear - pads free
exhaust - free
engine - standard
ecu - standard unit - map free
air filter -free
wheels - free
tyres - 1A or 1B
shocks - standard
springs - branded items
done, nothing else, nothing from ebay
Its okay we can just make a road block.
You forgot some of the smaller details like camber bolts and camber shims as these were allowed as well I believe?
Quite a lot missed off that tbh, there's a few things also that I think should be alright to use as they have no performance advantage having them.
Do you mean stuff like supertech valves and ARP fasteners?
If the series is going to be long term sustainable it would make sense allowing reliability mods to the engine, as it wont be the case for much longer that you can just log onto the forum and buy a useable engine for a couple hundred quid.
Success Ballast? Have you not read a single thing Tony has said? To add the option of using success ballast is another completely unneeded expense... Its aimed to be a fun, cheap entry into motorsport, people aren't racing for cash/sponsorship etc.
Not even an electric powered forced induction kit? Or a superchip upto 50bhp more for £20. Shame that.
I wasn't looking into it that much tbh, more like things like solid engine mounts that I have fitted currently to my car.
Agreed, if you dont like losing then:
get better
or
quit
or
cheat
rather than expect the organiser to slow everyone else down to match you, lol.
success ballast shouldnt be needed with cars which are (meant to be) so even in the first place.
If I'm slower than someone (which is probably going to the case) then I'll spend more time playing with geometry and becoming a better driver. I wont be moaning, unless someone is quite clearly quicker than me/the field on the straights...
If people want a radio then its fine as far as im aware.
I know someone who says he is about to go and enter tintops in a full road car, and that is still fitted with a radio and sound deadening etc, and he realises that it will make him less competitive but says it will still be fun to race.
WRX
I think there was a variance of about 40 bhp between Tony, James and Ian at the weekend.
Could somebody tell me who had more because I wouldn't know from watching the races. So far it seems that it's just me and Nick that have expressed a genuine interest and I don't think either of us care what the opposition's got. I'm looking at it for the buzz of racing. As per Fred's list and camber front and rear suits me fine!
Could somebody tell me who had more because I wouldn't know from watching the races. So far it seems that it's just me and Nick that have expressed a genuine interest and I don't think either of us care what the opposition's got. I'm looking at it for the buzz of racing. As per Fred's list and camber front and rear suits me fine!
Really? I thought they were all between 210-220bhp?
