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after speaking to a mate who owns a Mini Cooper, and racing a few, it seems that they are following in the footsteps of saxo VTR owners, i.e. bullsh*ting! Its always the ones who didnt quite get the "performance" model who claim to be giant killers. My mate wants to race me:eek:, even my girlfriend who knows nothing/little about cars laughed in his face!

Before i get sl*gged off, this is not a go at VTS or Cooper-s owners as i have utter respect for these cars, VTRs and Coopers though? NO, in there league i am sure they can more then hold there own, but to move into the 16V/VTS/106 league no chance