Burpspeed - From The beginning

[Nafoff]

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will be first time back driving it tomorrow after over 2 months off so we will see,

 

[Daniel]

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I have just read this thread. Again. For the 3rd time.

And it has confirmed that phase-1 ownership is where I belong. M3 is now up for sale and i'm coming to keep you boys company.

 

[Nafoff]

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pmsl at you coming back to it again.......take your time and get a mint blue / yellow or red one mate...

 

[Adey.]

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ph 1s are badical, best of the bunch, the original. in ure face ph 2 biatches

 

[Nafoff]

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^^^ knowsit....

 

[Jay Payne]

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My car went back to the black mountains today, been there before with the previous owner.

 

[riz]

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if i got a ph1 are they reliable enough for 25000 miles a year

 

[JON13S]

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would still swap it for a cup and a half decent steering wheel though wouldnt you....???

 

[Jay Payne]

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Riz, Mine has done about 2,500 in six months. Not one (real) problem but I have 'recified' all the possible problems. Russ-16v has a high miler and they ae not too bad.


Jon, Maybe

 

[Andyman]

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if i got a ph1 are they reliable enough for 25000 miles a year

Is anything reliable?? All depends how its been serviced and looked after like any other brand of car.

 

[riz]

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im tempted but if i got one i would have to change rear lights and bumper so may be better off with a next ph

 

[Schweppy]

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Went out in Jays car last night and i have to say....i am impressed!

The sound of the new induction setup is AMAZING. Comes close to ITB noise especially around 5k!

Anyway, I ran a few RSTuner performance analysis's on it and here's a graph of the results.

The weight shown on the graph includes the cars kerb weight with all fluids and with myself and Jay sat in it!

All it needs now is a remap.........

 

[Jay Payne]

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Thanks for doing that

 

[maynard]

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just read the whole thread, should be well pleased with yourself - excellent car!

 

[Winston]

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How heavy

Awesome project

 

[bomber]

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will be interesting after seeing that what results you come up with then on saturday

 

[Jay Payne]

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If that works out as 138bhp then that cant be far off as the last time it was rolling roaded it ran 117bhp @ wheels. 20-25bhp down on everyone else.

That was with a broken Knock sensor and incorect cambelt timing

 

[Nafoff]

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what you having done exactly?

 

[Jay Payne]

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eh?

 

[Schweppy]

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what you having done exactly?

?

 

[Nafoff]

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sex op?

pmsl...i errored

 

[Timmay]

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awesome car

 

[Jay Payne]

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Well yet again the car has done me proud at a track day. Oulton park yesterday was superb!

The spring change has made a vast improvement, so well balanced compaired to what it was.

You need to be awake tho, I had a few highspeed, sideways, back wheel off the track moments. Bomber and Tony will tell you, ha ha.


Video of the day is HERE


Im seriously considering getting some better tyres for next year. The pradas are fine but really do suffer and complain.

Rolling road on saturday then it will be put to bed for the winter..... Wont stop the tinkering tho, got loads of little things to do.

 

[172bagss2]

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Superb to meet you yesterday and finally see your motor too... :star:

Great vid, too...

Would seem that your stiff rear-end is giving you quite a lot of lift-off oversteer... I don't find I need to correct that way, on the limit my arse-end feels like it's 'drifting' rather then 'snapping' out...

If I see you on another track day you can have a drive and see how it compares...

Keep up the good work with the car!!


PS. Any footage featuring my car??

 

[Jay Payne]

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Dont think ive got any footage of yours im afraid, didnt get the camera out untill mid afternoon, was having too much fun. Will have another look tho, maybe when tony was driving you may have been around.

The 'moments i had in the video were when i was trail braking, doing what the instructor had just taught me in the 197cup. Need to work on that, Lol

 

[Jay Payne]

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Rolling roaded yesterday and got 175bhp! 32bhp gain from back in March before the cambelt change. Of course its had a/c removed, exhaust and induction changed.

Well happy with that, potential for some more at some stage. Depending on funds.


Vid of it on the rollers

 

[Djw John]

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Good results there mate

 

[Jay Payne]

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Pic of my front left tyre after oulton

Took it when i got back.

I hear 3 number eights calling!

 

[Adey.]

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888s you know it makes sence

 

[172bagss2]

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My Paradas were exactly the same up at Croft... They got so hot and soft you could pull lumps of rubber off them with your fingertips!!

R888s FTW (or Yoko A048Rs) - but R888s (195/50/15) can be had for £231 delivered!

 

[Jay Payne]

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It wasnt even a hot day really, imagine if the track had been 40'+

how much can u get yoko's for?

 

[172bagss2]

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how much can u get yoko's for?

Not priced them tbh. I asked a track-side tyre dude at a race meeting and he didn't have a price with him, but confirmed they were more expensive than R888s.

The series I was watching could run MSA 1a/1b tyres (so most were on R888s or A048Rs, with the majority opting for R888s. The tyrewalls are so hard they make the car feel like a different machine!!

My A048Rs cost £80 for the set, second-hand... I've done 2 track days with them on the rear and there's still life left in them...

 

[Parky]

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well, ive been officially warned about internet abuse at work....

But jesus, what a quality read......

 

[len_beach]

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Check out the re-moulds. That is doing things on a budget!

 

[MarkCup]

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Check out the re-moulds. That is doing things on a budget!

Remoulds? I thought they were almost brand spanking new Parada 2s?

 

[Jay Payne]

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Check out the re-moulds. That is doing things on a budget!

Remoulds? I thought they were almost brand spanking new Parada 2s?

WTF? they were new yokahama prada spec 2's. they have done less than 2,500 miles but several tracks.

Can you even buy remoulds anymore?

A whole day spent on a track with 85mph+ corners is gonna do that to any road tyre

 

[ForceIndia]

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Thats why I've got 888's for next week.

 

[Jay Payne]

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Didnt think i would actually go fast enough to need better tyres but it looks like the time has come.

 

[Nafoff]

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i need to start looking at track wheels / tyres i think...

 

[len_beach]

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Remoulds? I thought they were almost brand spanking new Parada 2s?

WTF? they were new yokahama prada spec 2's. they have done less than 2,500 miles but several tracks.

Can you even buy remoulds anymore?

A whole day spent on a track with 85mph+ corners is gonna do that to any road tyre

It was a joke Kids. They just reminded me of remoulds with a defined band of rubber.