Car security and trackers

[Danith]

Oh yes ive got those too now. Never even heard of them before. If anyone's reading this make sure your house has them, cheap to sort.

 

[william84]

Best thing I've found is a dog 😂

 

[davo172]

Oh yes ive got those too now. Never even heard of them before. If anyone's reading this make sure your house has them, cheap to sort.

Reckon 85% plus all break ins are lock snapped.

 

[cat171]

Trackers are pretty pants - I watched a TV show about them where some foreign gang were stealing cars to order & shipping them abroad, they had a thing that they went over the car with & it told them from the signal where the Tracker was located, they just removed them. They said some people often put on two or three Trackers, we'll find them. They showed how it worked on a Range Rover Sport.

I think what you have now it good, no f*****s really going to bother with a car with a disklok etc on it, unless they really want it.

 

[R3k1355]

Only the really sophisticated thieves are using those, and like you said they target £100,000 cars not a Honda Civic.
The rest just nick it and sling it on a side-street for several days, that way if the owner picks it up they know it had a tracker.

Not wanting to sound harsh but it's unlikely the car was stolen for it's value, it'll be put on fake/stolen plates and used in other crime.
Either a getaway vehicle or a pool car.

 

[Short Norman]

Only the really sophisticated thieves are using those, and like you said they target £100,000 cars not a Honda Civic.
The rest just nick it and sling it on a side-street for several days, that way if the owner picks it up they know it had a tracker.

Not wanting to sound harsh but it's unlikely the car was stolen for it's value, it'll be put on fake/stolen plates and used in other crime.
Either a getaway vehicle or a pool car.

I'd have thought it would have most likely been taken for parts.

Possibly someone local who knows the car or has seen it online.

 

[R3k1355]

Who's stealing and chopping up 10 year old Civic's for parts tho?
Yea obviously it's worth a few quid in bits, but is someone really gunna go to the effort to be selling 20 quid suspension arms and bits of interior for a fiver?

If you're gunna be chopping up cars take the properly valuable stuff (or the front end off a Corsa)

 

[Rojer]

* Fit an aftermarket removable steering wheel
* Some form of disklok as others have mentioned.
* Hidden camera that faces the driver
* High end alarm/immobilizer/tracker
* Keys always far away from doors/windows
* Hidden battery kill switch
* Disabled/move OBD port
* If key less entry block signal from key
* Security lights and cameras
* Block the car in with other cars or use metal bollards
* Put the car in a garage and lock it down like fort knox
* High security door locks

 

[cat171]

Good of the EU to not allow the manufacturers to block off, or lock the OBD port due to freedom of information etc..
Oh wait, the same thing the thieves use to steal cars!!

 

[bloke]

Move to a gated community with private security.

Got a twiglet now?

 

[SC03OTT]

Who's stealing and chopping up 10 year old Civic's for parts tho?
Yea obviously it's worth a few quid in bits, but is someone really gunna go to the effort to be selling 20 quid suspension arms and bits of interior for a fiver?

If you're gunna be chopping up cars take the properly valuable stuff (or the front end off a Corsa)

People who don’t want to wait for overnight parts from Japan?

 

[Andy_con]

ive always like the idea of a secret switch that cuts power to the engine, or fuel pump etc...

you don't want to cut power off to the whole car as you'd be forever entering the radio code and setting the clock.

 

[Danith]

Only the really sophisticated thieves are using those, and like you said they target £100,000 cars not a Honda Civic.
The rest just nick it and sling it on a side-street for several days, that way if the owner picks it up they know it had a tracker.

Not wanting to sound harsh but it's unlikely the car was stolen for it's value, it'll be put on fake/stolen plates and used in other crime.
Either a getaway vehicle or a pool car.

not harsh at all I totally agree. That's why I bought an Fn2 and not a bloody DC5! Didn't think anyone would bother.

It'll be used for a joyride/job/drug runner and then sold on for sod all for stripping.

The price of parts on Hondas is decent to be honest. Plenty of folk could make a good few grand on stripping it. I've plastered it all over the pages in order to hopefully make it a bit harder for them.

 

[OEM Battery Nonce]

Buy a gun safe for the keys. A brattonsound PD7 can be had for 130 quid.

They're difficult to get into, and should anyone get in for keys, they'll think twice if you have to unlock a gun safe for obvious reasons.

I'd store my valuables in a gun safe over a standard safe any day as I imagine your standard burglar would say away from going for firearms and leave it be (I may be massively wrong though).

 

[R3k1355]

Except if you hide your keys in a safe all the criminals will do is hold a knife to your throat and demand the key.

 

[Danith]

I think I might get some 2nd hand spares for whatever cars I have and leave them downstairs. Ones that don't work/fit. Keep the real ones elsewhere

 

[william84]

I think I might get some 2nd hand spares for whatever cars I have and leave them downstairs. Ones that don't work/fit. Keep the real ones elsewhere

yeah but say they realise an come back for the real set.

my keys stay downstairs if they have made the effort to break in have them Imo.
I'd rather that than them possibly causing harm to my family.

A car can be replaced/repaired.

 

[Danith]

In my case I just think they wanted a clean, easy take. They didn't target my Fn2 as it's not worth anything to them.

I agree if it were a targeted car this wouldn't work as well, but for them to break in, take keys and cause noise when trying to start the car with the wrong key. They'd just run off and not try again.

 

[william84]

Each to their own I say.

I'm not prepared to take the chance on what sort wants my cars.
Make the effort to break in have it is my thoughts.

it's only a possession.

Don't get me wrong I get what your saying about to much hassle move to the next theory.
Doesn't always work out that way though.
Stick an aftermarket kill switch on it.
For example https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/312738567894.
If that was inline on the live to the fuel pump there is pretty much no way of starting your car.
Being activated at night would mean no need to fit to keys.

I must stress though in my opinion let them have it.

 

[Darren S]

In my case I just think they wanted a clean, easy take. They didn't target my Fn2 as it's not worth anything to them.

I agree if it were a targeted car this wouldn't work as well, but for them to break in, take keys and cause noise when trying to start the car with the wrong key. They'd just run off and not try again.

With regards to Trackers - might be worth checking with your insurance if you go down that route.

One insurance company I spoke to actually increased the premium if I activated the dormant Tracker on the Evo, as they said that I was admitting "it was a higher risk of being stolen."

Hopefully they were the exception and not the norm.

 

[cat171]

That's daft! I'd expect an Evo to have an active one on it.

 

[moktabe]

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[DAN@ADRIAN FLUX]

With regards to Trackers - might be worth checking with your insurance if you go down that route.

One insurance company I spoke to actually increased the premium if I activated the dormant Tracker on the Evo, as they said that I was admitting "it was a higher risk of being stolen."

Hopefully they were the exception and not the norm.

Hi.
I haven't come across anything like this with any of our insurers.
Regards,
Dan.

 

[bill]

This time last year I got paranoid about my transit van going, they where getting nicked all over the show, i got a disklok, a pedal lock and I locked the obd port up,it ain’t going anywhere, they’ll move onto the next transit. might get my doors peeled but that’s another story lol.

diskloks are a great deterrent.

 

[Coby.]

Just put a 'For Sale Non Runner' sign in the window everytime you park up.

 

[william84]

Just put a 'For Sale Non Runner' sign in the window everytime you park up.

I like

 

[White16valver]

Hi.
If it's of any help we recommend these. Maybe they could give you some advice.

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Regards,
Dan.

That's the same company Adrian Flux recommended to me in the past, who quoted me £99 over the phone for an immobiliser then two weeks later claimed they never said such thing and didn't sell such a product, and when they fitted another immobiliser (at higher cost) fucked up my electrics and said they'd come out to look at it but would charge me for the pleasure if it wasn't their fault (which, of course, it wouldn't have been...)?

 

[Danith]

After my recent headache i wont be renewing with flux. Cheap price maybe but means nothing when your car gets taken.

 

[davo172]

After my recent headache i wont be renewing with flux. Cheap price maybe but means nothing when your car gets taken.

They were faultless when mine was stolen in 2015 and a great payout too.

 

[Danith]

Total opposite for me. Tiring, drawn out and left very much out of pocket.

 

[Rojer]

Every insurance company tends to have good and bad stories. I'm not sure if it's the inconsistencies of the staff or the company, things like training etc or customers who have unreachable expectations.

IMO the whole point of insurance is that if your car is stolen or crashed etc, you are paid the current market value, no further questions.

 

[Danith]

Every insurance company tends to have good and bad stories. I'm not sure if it's the inconsistencies of the staff or the company, things like training etc or customers who have unreachable expectations.

IMO the whole point of insurance is that if your car is stolen or crashed etc, you are paid the current market value, no further questions.

And it should be a service to help you in your time of massive stress, anxiety and inconvenience. Felt more like I was on bloody trial myself and only got paid out over a month later.
The issue was that Flux don't seem to be too clued up on modified cars, to me. They didn't explain the modified policy to me, just have an underwriter that will accept them.

 

[william84]

And it should be a service to help you in your time of massive stress, anxiety and inconvenience. Felt more like I was on bloody trial myself and only got paid out over a month later.
The issue was that Flux don't seem to be too clued up on modified cars, to me. They didn't explain the modified policy to me, just have an underwriter that will accept them.

An don't change cars in your policy as they add large fees pure rip offs imo.

 

[Gouldy]

Keeping a car in a locked concrete garage Is a brilliant way to keep it safe. You should see my garage, no one is ever getting near my fireblade

 

[GrahamS]

Automatrics - watched a few of their youtube videos and am pretty sold on the idea.

 

[Storm_Force]

Automatrics - watched a few of their youtube videos and am pretty sold on the idea.

Was going to say the same, worth watching there videos.

 

[Short Norman]

I’ve seen a few of their videos too. They appear impressive but I’d hate to think how much their trackers and subscriptions are.

 

[davo172]

All trackers are a waste of time imo thieves will scan for and remove them, and at the end of the day would you REALLY want it back I know I wouldn't just hope they crash it and die with no one else involved.

Also if you do get a location on the car what happens then police won't attend they don't have the time or manpower and if you have the location yourself go round and take it back by cracking a few heads in the process you get arrested yourself !

Remember years ago my mate caught 2 trying to steal his car beat them both real bad he got done for gbh!! Law in this country always favours criminals.

 

[cat171]

Not really. My bosses husband's Rangey Sport got nicked off their driveway a couple of weeks ago. The police came out and the tracker company knew where it was and where it been.
A boxster nicked from a few doors down from them was parked up with it, so both were recovered.

 

[JamesBryan]

I’ve seen a few of their videos too. They appear impressive but I’d hate to think how much their trackers and subscriptions are.

£140 for the basic i think and then £17 per month subscription for the monitoring.