Change a 182 non cup into a trophy suspension wise shopping list.

[dablk]

Yes it madness.. just buy a trophy.

However if you did want to do it. What actually needs to be swap?

Mine is a non cup 182.

sachs front and rear..obviously
eibach springs all round?
drive shafts longer? (same as cup?)
are trophy hubs same as cup hubs?
wishbones? (are the trophy/cup ones different to non cup)
arbs?
anything different steering/rods/ends wise?

Just trying to judge what is trophy trick (cost wise..ie sachs) and what is just cup spec

Anything else handling wise different? I know Turini wheels are lighter.

Long term thoughts in mind :evil:

 

[.Stevo.C.]

Just buy a trophy.

 

[dablk]

I know, but if you had access to a cup front end. is it just the sachs and springs which are different between cup and trophy?

 

[AlexW]

Shocks, springs and extra caster lower wishbones, which is just the same as 172 cup and 182 cup.

Hubs are different, but I think thats just larger bearing (60mm or so springs to mind), Don't think shafts would be an issue.

I'd like to be corrected though!

 

[dablk]

Cheers. keep seeing nearly all the bits kicking about and thought one day may go for it. May "cup" the car first when I do a front end refresh. Then see about them sachs

 

[AlexW]

Cup wishbones are worth it for the extra caster (I did it!) and maybe camber bolts for a touch more camber, but good setup will improve it more than anything else.

Sachs are good, but a decent coilover would be just as good, and probably cheaper! No real need to go for anything IMO. My own Clio only has cup wishbones, camber bolts, Polybushed ARB and a decent setup.

 

[dablk]

so cup wishbones are different to non cup but work with standard hubs/driveshafts ok? saw that you can buy wishbones with new bushes/ball joints for around £60. that might go on my to do list

 

[AlexW]

Yep, Depending how low your car is, you might have some minor rubbing issues on the front arch liner/bumper bracket, but easily solved. Mine is quite low and has 30mm spacers and has rubbed everything away after a few months lol.

 

[Jeffie]

No all 182 wishbones are the same.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Hubs are different, but I think thats just larger bearing (60mm or so springs to mind), Don't think shafts would be an issue.

I'd like to be corrected though!

182 cup/cup packed/Trophy all share the same hub afaik and do indeed run a larger bearing. The 60mm bit your thinking of is the bolt spacing for the front shock absorber mounting to the hub.

 

[dablk]

Cheers,
are the rear hubs different at all? or the same on all 4 noncup/cuppack/cup/trophy?

 

[NorthloopCup]

Cheers,
are the rear hubs different at all? or the same on all 4 noncup/cuppack/cup/trophy?

They're all the same mate.