Changing upper engine mount- how much ofa ballache is it?

[Allan H]

Changed to a decat and am getting massive vibrations at low revs- top engine mount is moving quite a bit and the bolt on the cam cover section nearest bulkhead has threaded. Got a replacement cam cover bit that hopefully has good threads- is it easier just sourcing a bolt that's a few mil longer and changing the rubber mount or am I better changing the whole part? I have the kangoo mount to go on the inner arch too btw.
Cheers.

 

[Brigsy]

Its a doddle to do both, Support engine and remove/refit. Change the upper cambelt cover its easy to do. I have retapped one and used a longer bolt to get me away but not ideal.

 

[Allan H]

Does the alternator need to be undone? Worried about the aux belt tensioner but have heard a jubilee clip takes the tension out ok..

 

[Coops Mk1]

Don't need to touch any of the belt system, just jack the engine up and undo the top mount bracket and remove the bits you need to replace.

I'm such a pikie I don't even remove the undertray, just jack it up till it supports engine, lol

 

[Dec_NE]

Upper engine mount is 5 minutes literally. Support engine weight with jack, 4 bolts attaching mount to the chassis leg and then I think 4 bolts attaching the upper cambelt cover. Pull the whole lot off then undo the 16mm IIRC nut in the middle of the engine mount then reassemble.

I highly recommend the powerflex / poly insert for the upper engine mount.

 

[Allan H]

Upper engine mount is 5 minutes literally. Support engine weight with jack, 4 bolts attaching mount to the chassis leg and then I think 4 bolts attaching the upper cambelt cover. Pull the whole lot off then undo the 16mm IIRC nut in the middle of the engine mount then reassemble.

I highly recommend the powerflex / poly insert for the upper engine mount.

Aye I've got one of those too.
Thanks.

 

[Allan H]

Upper engine mount is 5 minutes literally. Support engine weight with jack, 4 bolts attaching mount to the chassis leg and then I think 4 bolts attaching the upper cambelt cover. Pull the whole lot off then undo the 16mm IIRC nut in the middle of the engine mount then reassemble.

I highly recommend the powerflex / poly insert for the upper engine mount.

Upper engine mount is 5 minutes literally. Support engine weight with jack, 4 bolts attaching mount to the chassis leg and then I think 4 bolts attaching the upper cambelt cover. Pull the whole lot off then undo the 16mm IIRC nut in the middle of the engine mount then reassemble.

I highly recommend the powerflex / poly insert for the upper engine mount.

It's the lower mount too tho!

 

[Dec_NE]

It's the lower mount too tho!

lower one in the passenger side wheel well that goes from gearbox to subframe - 10 mins maximum. again just suspend the weight of the engine / box with a jack.

Whilst there take the time to clean up the earth strap and ensure you refit it nice and tight as this can stop a lot of issues occuring in the future.

 

[Dec_NE]

If it's the twisted dogbone that goes from the gearbox to the subframe - again - 10 mins.

If you're replacing that to reduce vibrations, I personally recommend the flo-flex dogbone mount. I've found the EVOL ones give a lot of vibration but are really good.

 

[Allan H]

lower one in the passenger side wheel well that goes from gearbox to subframe - 10 mins maximum. again just suspend the weight of the engine / box with a jack.

Whilst there take the time to clean up the earth strap and ensure you refit it nice and tight as this can stop a lot of issues occuring in the future.

Sorry. It's the upper mount lower bracket that's needing done.
Either that or I get a longer bolt as the thread in the lower mount is away.
80mm xm10 bolt?

 

[Allan H]

Sorry for confusion folks. It's the upper engine mount lower section where one of the threads has gone. Trying to decide if I could just get a new bolt or fit the spare lower mount section I have.

 

[Brigsy]

Do it right and change the cambelt upper cover. Its a piece of piss mate

 

[Allan H]

Do it right and change the cambelt upper cover. Its a piece of piss mate

Sound. That's what I'll do then.

 

[Allan H]

Anyone know the torque for the bolts going back on? 12nm?

 

[JamesBryan]

Anyone know the torque for the bolts going back on? 12nm?

62nm for the ones that go down into the mount on the engine side.

62nm for the 4 bolts holding the mount to the body.

44nm for the small central nut inside the centre of the mount.

 

[Allan H]

Do you know the lower cambelt cover settings? Ta.

 

[JamesBryan]

Do you know the lower cambelt cover settings? Ta.

Pretty sure they are 62nm as well mate.