Clio 172 cup versus EP3 Civic Type R

[Kennedy88]

This has been a debate between me and my old man for several weeks now. I recently purchased a 172 cup and my old man has an 2005 EP3 Civic type R, he claims his type r would wipe the floor with my clio, however i beg to differ. Both cars are standard.

Just wanted to know what other peoples opinions are and any experiences they might have had taking on the civic, before i take him on and whoop his ass!!

Apologies if there has been a similar thread in the past, im new to the site.

 

[mr bognor]

Type R FTW V-TEC YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[mr bognor]

Not a lot in it tbh mate been done to death on hear

 

[mark989]

have a race on the track you will be pleasantly suprised, tell him to put his money were is mouth is

 

[Kennedy88]

Type R FTW V-TEC YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Got to admit, i do love the v-tec, used to have an old civic VTI.

 

[scott7912]

Ive had two 182's, a FF182 and now the Trophy, there is nothing in it, mostly down to the driver. I had a play with a black ep3 just 2 days ago, he started about 5 car lengths ahead and coming off roundabouts i gained on him every time, i then give up coming off the last roundabout when i realised i was nearly in his boot and i was satisfied i could have passed him. He then started on to drive like a loon swerving in and out of traffic which is not my scene, i value my life and car too much.
Just my experience like, im sure this has been reversed many times, its happened to me before, like i said down to the driver.

 

[Kennedy88]

have a race on the track you will be pleasantly suprised, tell him to put his money were is mouth is

Yeah, could see us at knockhill very soon.

 

[mr bognor]

have a race on the track you will be pleasantly suprised, tell him to put his money were is mouth is

I would not bet mony on that would be close but would give the nod to the Type R . Not that im biased or anything

 

[Kennedy88]

have a race on the track you will be pleasantly suprised, tell him to put his money were is mouth is

I would not bet mony on that would be close but would give the nod to the Type R . Not that im biased or anything

Used to be biased towards Honda myself, until a couple of weeks ago when i jumped ship.

 

[mr bognor]

I would not bet mony on that would be close but would give the nod to the Type R . Not that im biased or anything

Used to be biased towards Honda myself, until a couple of weeks ago when i jumped ship.

Traitor Yeah i did the same jump ship from a mint mk 1 172 to the ATR

 

[mr bognor]

God i miss the old silver built She was a good old bi*ch

 

[mr bognor]

Biased view

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z2JD5CVbD00

 

[mr bognor]

More like it

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8iqx0Nw3w

 

[CabinFever]

Wow we have not had a 172 vs CTR debate for at least a few hours.... similar to about 80-90 then the CTR will pull!

 

[mr bognor]

Yeah but you love them

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Type R FTW V-TEC YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Shut your flithy mouth bognor lol

 

[mr bognor]

Type R FTW V-TEC YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Shut your flithy mouth bognor lol

Yeah yeah you no you will be loving the yo V-TEC soon to when you stop being a girl and buy the EK9

 

[172Petey]

I have now owned both, i would say that the Cup is just a touch in it but would be down to the drivers, top end is for the type R and the type R is much better built.

 

[kenny172]

straight line type r ftw through in a few corners and theres nothing in it at all imo

 

[JON13S]

played with a few won some and lost some. standing start to around a ton i can get ahead but after that they come back. also cup is far better coming out of corners/roundabouts so lots of ground can be made. beware the modified v-tec though...... different story. ar5e handed to me on a plate. but i didnt know it was supercharged did i!!!

get daddy to get his wallet out and find a good bit of road....

 

[JMR]

Had my CTR since last weekend. So the 172 is still very much at the forefront of my mind.

Initial acceleration seems faster, mid range the Clio has a bit more linearity, then the VTEC on the Honda kicks in and the sensation is immense. Straight up to the limiter without so much as a hint of strain. [Doesnt sound like bolts are going to fly out the engine]

Mine was a standard 172 with catback s/s exhaust, ITG panel and re-map.

The handling on the Type R is in another league. Cant comment compared to the Cup though, as I havent driven one.

 

[dale172]

Same position my clio felt alot rawer on acceleration but the CTR is defo quicker the V-TECh is the Ti*s

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Shut your flithy mouth bognor lol

Yeah yeah you no you will be loving the yo V-TEC soon to when you stop being a girl and buy the EK9

lol, real men drive french shite that has an engine to big for its body

 

[mr bognor]

Yeah yeah you no you will be loving the yo V-TEC soon to when you stop being a girl and buy the EK9

lol, real men drive french s**te that has an engine to big for its body

Your not geting cold feet are you Danny boy get the EK9 :approve: . You no you want a type R again and not a girls car :rasp: :rasp: :rasp:

 

[gaz44]

Cup v CTR - no difference really in terms of performance. Both cars have their plus points but no matter who is quicker in either car, I reckon the Cup driver will have more fun.

Honda should stick to trimming lawns.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

lol, real men drive french s**te that has an engine to big for its body

Your not geting cold feet are you Danny boy get the EK9 :approve: . You no you want a type R again and not a girls car :rasp: :rasp: :rasp:

Oh no, i might be able to keep the Ph1 aswell as getting the 9 if i get this new job! The 172 will most definatley become a track weapon:evil:

 

[mr bognor]

Your not geting cold feet are you Danny boy get the EK9 :approve: . You no you want a type R again and not a girls car :rasp: :rasp: :rasp:

Oh no, i might be able to keep the Ph1 aswell as getting the 9 if i get this new job! The 172 will most definatley become a track weapon:evil:

No you want to make the ek9 the track weapon and keep the clio for GF as it is a girls car LOL:rasp: :rasp: :rasp: No im messing i want my one back i no sell me yours ? do you take IOU

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

pmsl^

Why dont you sell the ATR and buy a farking ph1 lol

No chance id track prep the 9, shes too pretty a lady to confide to the track, and you know this! lol

 

[Lagerlout]

Biased view

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z2JD5CVbD00

Modded CTR with launch control! LOL

Here's a more real life comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEESHsPqx5k

 

[mr bognor]

pmsl^

Why dont you sell the ATR and buy a farking ph1 lol

No chance id track prep the 9, shes too pretty a lady to confide to the track, and you know this! lol

Sell the type R Taxi never its just to dam good anyway its off the road at the moment sh*ty jap crap LOL Yeah your right but must be an animal on the track to :approve: :approve: :approve:

 

[ben24]

More like it

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8iqx0Nw3w

both were quicker than a focus RS !!!!!:quiet:


wow , i did not expect that

ive raced one and like people have said there was not really much in it .

i did race a ST170 focus the other day and absolutly KILLED him :evil:

 

[invisible man]

Stig lap times on T.G. website:-
Clio Cup 75th @ 1.33.8
Focus ST 78th @ 1.34.9
Clio V6 85th @ 1.36.5 (believe in the wet)
Civic Type R 86th @ 1.36.5 (wet or dry who cares)

It all depends on the driver, on the day & on the conditions. I wanted a Civic type R, but like previous comments, I could not cope with a gear stick that looks like an erect c**k sticking out of the dash. I also beat a Civic type R the other morning when he tried to cut me up, which left him rather red faced.

 

[Michael172]

bread van

 

[domjolly]

to be fair the phase 1 172 will have them both just to add fuel to the fire ha ha ha.. does it matter just a s**t shift will see you lose in a straight line or a difference in driver ability

 

[maz172cup]

type R is a great car but u`d be suprised how good the cup is

 

[ForceIndia]

Both taste like chicken. Nothing in it.

 

[r8byb]

my mate has a ep3 i have a 182, weve done 3 track days together and were together regularly on the road, theres nothing in it, if anything the 182 pips it

 

[Slammed172]

0.3 round a track according to 5th gear.

 

[CrippsCorner]

Been in a CTR driven hard and I must say it felt a lot quicker than my 182...

Not sure about round a track but obviously that video shows the CTR wins there too!

 

[Merk]

The civic, is the faster car, fact.


However the Clio holds it's on very well as there's such little in it performance wise (0.3 secs to 60 or so)


However having recently swapped my 172 for an ep3, I know which car is better to live with