Gaz Sport said:
Im pretty sure once my brother gets his K pro on he will beat me though (sigh) he recons it will give him 220hp for £800ish so I guess it will be off to GDI for cams and a remap then
damn, why do I have to be so competitive with my brothers!!!
he sure will woop yer ass if he gets k-pro, which can be picked up for about £600! for those of you asking what it is, its a sisterboard add on to the ECU that is hardwired in. i think it is more advanced than the smt6 as you can plug your laptop into it and load either one of 5 standard upgrade maps from one for induction and exhaust all the way to a supercharger mod, fully customise mapping for your engine and its exact mods along with full data logging which records all sorts of engine variables such as a/f mixtures, injector efficiency readings etc (too much to list)... the main advantage of this though is that you can change when the cam profile changes over in stages of aggression. instead of having it come on cam at 5800rpm for example you can drop this down to the most aggressive setting of 4200rpm, then increase the rev limiter to 8600 - 8800rpm (a potential of 5000rpm of being on cam!) for that extra grunt and a much wider powerband! it also has a launch control setting which means that the idle rev limiter is brought down from 5000rpm to about 3000rpm so that you can bounce it off the limiter at standstill, drop the clutch and off you go with minimal wheelspin possible (still depends on driver ability for that one tho!)
if one map doesnt work too well then you just load another. the thing with the CTR guys is that it will cost them about £400 to get a new map done on a RR at system R for example but everyone shares them around as its just a case of saving the map onto flash drive and then re-loading it onto your laptop and then into the k-pro!
most people who buy k-pro for the ctr will already have at least a catback, induction kit and often a decat or race manifold. add the hondata k-pro to this and your looking at around 235bhp quite easily at the wheels without upgrading to Toda or Skunk2 cams........ the easiest way to describe it is its like the real life version of the fast and the furious laptop gadgetry that you see in the mitsubishi eclipse on the 1st film!
as an ex-ctr owner who currently owns a 172 Cup i would say that there is not a lot in it at all. the ctr engine engine as standard does have the advantage of hitting the limiter at 8250rpm but then again it only comes on cam at 5800rpm so the powerband comes in later than the 172. the ctr is also heavier at 1240kg......
in terms of on A roads its definately going to depend on the driver until about 100mph if both cars are standard as the ctr has the advantage of a 6th gear, with a shorter 5th ratio topping out at about 125ish mph. i would say that on B roads the 172 would do very well as the handling gives you loads of confidence as there is predicatable understeer and lift off oversteer which is easlily controllable when you push the car hard.
with the CTR it has very numb steering and you can definately push it very hard but it depends on whether you have the confidence to do it because of the lack of feel through the wheel (basically how big are your b*llocks).... i have pushed my ctr to the point of no return and believe me its scary as the car will hold on and on but then all of a sudden let go giving you snap oversteer with you at least facing the oposite direction to where you were going and at worst in a ditch which is what happened to a friend of mine recently! i ended up with snap oversteer facing the opposite direction on a roundabout!
i hope that helps with the debate
Alex
