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Better than yours. C*nt.
Do we think theres some confusion here over maps and calibrations i.e. the fact that a calibration can contain numerous maps and numerous maps for a single function i.e. boost control?
Entirely possible and is what I was trying to ascertain. I've never tried to claim I'm an expert, merely try to work out where two 'experts' have given conflicting information (not on the same forum).
Thanks for your help in clearing it up!
ITB'd MK1
Mike, you'll never be told you're wrong, so this thread is sadly just spam.
M
mini-valver
Better than yours. C*nt.
I'm asking a question, one's on the defensive because something he said didn't quite ring true (not through trying to mislead, probably through trying to make it simple enough to understand!), one's being abusive, and two are trying to work out how best to explain what I want to know!
Thanks sebby, I knew I could count on you for your constructive input into a matter which I'll openly admit I'm 'out of my depth' - hence f**king asking in a discussion forum!
Maybe I should go and worship the iPhone and stick Turinis on the Vee. Seems to be all you're allowed to do on here now!
Better than yours. C*nt.
No, no, I've been told where I'm not wrong - just misunderstanding/not speaking the correct terminology. So sue me.
M
mini-valver
Or just tell everyone their wrong because you cant understand it.
seb
ClioSport Club Member
Clio trophy
you have looked like a numpty as even to me, who knows nothing about mapping, you look like you have no clue about what you are going on about.
you post in such an aggressive manner and get everyones backs up when you go to town on the simplest of points. you then wonder why people have a pop?
you need to chill out on the forum tbh. let alone your pointless knock of the mods a few pages ago.
maybe you should go away for 24 hours and chill?
you post in such an aggressive manner and get everyones backs up when you go to town on the simplest of points. you then wonder why people have a pop?
you need to chill out on the forum tbh. let alone your pointless knock of the mods a few pages ago.
maybe you should go away for 24 hours and chill?
Better than yours. C*nt.
Actually, when someone came in and explained it I thanked them for their help. I can click the report button all night long if you want to continue abusing me for asking questions!
Better than yours. C*nt.
Do they do a turini in Vee fitment?
I've got enough offset on the front to get an adapter in there!
M
mini-valver
Pot kettle black, brother. Click away son, I'm sure you have a platinum plated mouse button just for it.
Better than yours. C*nt.
But, as is regularly demonstrated on here, there are no rules about the levels of stupidity you are or aren't allowed to display! And TBH on a car forum it's a refreshing change for someone to be stupid with regards to a technical aspect than to be stupid about what modifications they should declare!
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I agree with you. I'm no mapping engineer, you rely on experts for the information on how this works/how its done - in this case there are a few of them floating around in here - listen to them, don't just dismiss them and we can all learn in a top discussion - something that is all to infrequent around here.
Better than yours. C*nt.
I agree with you. I'm no mapping engineer, you rely on experts for the information on how this works/how its done - in this case there are a few of them floating around in here - listen to them, don't just dismiss them and we can all learn in a top discussion - something that is all to infrequent around here.
Yes indeed - initially however my query was 'dismissed' and batted out because it dared to question an 'expert', rather than answered. It has now been answered/resolved and I know the right words and have a better understanding!
Thanks to all those who have had helpful input into this! (Majority tbh!)
ValverInBits
ah tech debates.
Multiple switchable maps is one of the strongest marketing points for emerald. If I were developing a system, I would put it in, not because I thought it necessary, but because people like the idea.
I confess I like the idea and the potential for extra freedom.
Multiple switchable maps is one of the strongest marketing points for emerald. If I were developing a system, I would put it in, not because I thought it necessary, but because people like the idea.
I confess I like the idea and the potential for extra freedom.
ah tech debates.
Multiple switchable maps is one of the strongest marketing points for emerald. If I were developing a system, I would put it in, not because I thought it necessary, but because people like the idea.
I confess I like the idea and the potential for extra freedom.
Im definately using it on my Astra turbo demo car----400bhp for me, 200bhp for the missus!!!
Better than yours. C*nt.
Yeah, I'm on facebook
. I'm not a single dad though. Are you still looking for me even though I'm not?Oft, more like 25 for mine if I was in your shoes!
ValverInBits
and correct me if i'm wrong, an insurance work around....... hear me out
Low boost map -> insure @ that bhp
Technically your insured until you flick the switch, which is effectively an extra modification.
Agreed, a grey area, but a nice thought.
Better than yours. C*nt.
I'm thinking of the motorsport stuff... Enter at a given bhp/ton class, flick the switch, flick it back!
"No, sir, it's always been that quick - must be the torque!"
Yeah i guess...i never put much thought to insurance with my cars tbh!!!
ITB'd MK1
hi 5 for trade policys
ah tech debates.
Multiple switchable maps is one of the strongest marketing points for emerald. If I were developing a system, I would put it in, not because I thought it necessary, but because people like the idea.
I confess I like the idea and the potential for extra freedom.
We have the ability to support 128 different calibrations within EC1 but to be honest we really don't see any point. If an engine is calibrated correctly why do you require additional 'correct' calibrations? Multiple boost levels etc. are supported without needing to run from a completely different cal.
When you actualy sit down and discuss why people think they need multiple maps it nearly always comes down to they want to run less boost or they want to deaded off the throttle response, both of which can be achieved with a single calibration!
I've thought about sticking in the option for five or ten cals in EC1 recently purely as a marketing point but I know it'd just cause confusion LOL
Damn right!!
ITB'd MK1
had this discussion with Mark about 16 months ago when i did his cambelt
loves the marketing TBH
ValverInBits
had this discussion with Mark about 16 months ago when i did his cambelt
We did. That we did
I was very close to going elsewhere on management, and after putting some real thought into it, I like everyone else, came to the conclusion that perhaps multiple maps is a feature too far. So I went with emerald for different reasons.
But I stand by what I said. It's a cracking good feature from a marketing pospective, and I think you should put it in matt.....not 128 maps tho, jebus christ just leave it at 3
. Especially if it's an easy job.LOL at Pectel on the T6 we did 2 cals, on SQ6 4 cals, MQ12 has support built in for 16. Every customer calibration I ever saw bar the BTCC stuff contained nothing but zeros in everything but Cal1 LOL
I know someone will get mega confused with what it actualy is as well i.e. stick a load of new boost settings in cal2 then wonder why the engine shuts down on cal 2 when everything else is blank.
Much better I feel to enable multiple boost and/or timing maps within a single calibration and just have a clicky rotary pot to select what map within the cal you want to run!
I know someone will get mega confused with what it actualy is as well i.e. stick a load of new boost settings in cal2 then wonder why the engine shuts down on cal 2 when everything else is blank.
Much better I feel to enable multiple boost and/or timing maps within a single calibration and just have a clicky rotary pot to select what map within the cal you want to run!
ValverInBits
Fair enough. I agree, the chances of major fail are reduced. But still, it's that rotary pot that people want
I should write a book or something. Gimmick engineering....for the people.
lol!
White Sti Hatch
f**k, this has taken off a little.....
Whats the car standing like now last time i seen pics of it was just before/after FCS i know youve got the cage now but what else have a missed ??
172 5HED
White Sti Hatch
Just the cage since then pal... new dash soon
Will have to get down and see this thing at some point, or get in touch with you at FCS this year if i head down !
172 5HED
