197 is shat.
there ugly and slow and look like crap from behind
182,172, even a 1.2 is better..
197 is shat.
there ugly and slow and look like crap from behind
dw m8, opinions of pikey members are null and voidGo man the bridge Troll!
It should be against CS rules, for people with an IQ of under 30 to post!
182,172, even a 1.2 is better..
197 is shat.
there ugly and slow and look like crap from behind
182,172, even a 1.2 is better..
197 is shat.
there ugly and slow and look like crap from behind
Go man the bridge Troll!
It should be against CS rules, for people with an IQ of under 30 to post!
when you can afford one, in about 20 years time, you'll change your mind.
You are also aware that the official 0-62 time for a 197 is faster than the standard 172 and 182s? If the 197 are slow, i take it you also don't drive one of these two?
And it should be illegal for peeps with no lifes that log on here everyday
with 197's has there shabank material to be horsed out of it by a fat sweaty builder
FFS, surely having GCSE's should be a min requirment before being allowed to post on here?lol seeing how i could most likely buy 2 right now
Come with something a little more better then that
Kiddie Cusses that...
yours is shat by the way if thats yours in your avay
Red is a nO nO worse then the plastic back they come with
who is this guy? i thought this forum was for clio enthusiasts?!? could this fine fello be an imposter?lol seeing how i could most likely buy 2 right now
Come with something a little more better then that
Kiddie Cusses that...
yours is shat by the way if thats yours in your avay
Red is a nO nO worse then the plastic back they come with
lol seeing how i could most likely buy 2 right now
Come with something a little more better then that
Kiddie Cusses that...
yours is shat by the way if thats yours in your avay
Red is a nO nO worse then the plastic back they come with
+1 lolIts OK I understand. What you are suffering from is anxiety and depression, which causes you to feel very bitter and twisted about not being able to own possesions, but I want you to know that there IS help out there for you. I will support you, I will help you learn to love your life again, so that you can learn to accept your disadvantages.
You CAN change if you want, life doesn't have to be the miserable existance it so obviously seems to be.
PS - I still prefer my 197, even more so now!!
Id say a 197. Its a much better car on the whole, though that doesnt take anything away from the 182, which i own and enjoy driving, even though its a piece of s**t in every other department. Its too small and the build quality is crap.
Id like to have seen the 197 with a better engine. Renault have taken the NA too far with the heavier 197 and should have put a turbo in, like the cooper s or vxr. If it did i would have bought one. I couldnt be seen in a corsa or a mini lol.
Either way, my next car will be far bigger. I wont make that mistake again.
People will just vote for what they've got surely? I did
Main reason though I'd never buy a 197, because I'd rather have a Corsa VXR... where as the 182 is the best hot hatch of it time I think (CTR is close, but doesn't look as good imo)
197 tries too hard to be a hot hatch and for that reason it fails!
1*2 are poorly built and rattle like fook but I dont care cos there awsome to drive.
while everyone is entitled to an opinion, would be good if you have actually driven a 197 for a period of time instead of making a subjective opinion lol ?
maybe you have???? then fair enough.
bit harsh to say 'it fails' when it is a very very capable hot hatch
Yes I have driven one, done a few laps of the ring in one too and could not justify spending the extra £6k+ on one.
I agree though, each to their own. personally I would spend half the amount on a 182, maybe a bit more on a trophy and save some cash. I still maintain that the Ph2 172 is the best BANG for BUCK car out there, u cant get a car that quick which averages 32+mpg for that amount of money other than the 172 which it for me what makes it stand out from the crowd.
In 5 years time you will have 197, VXR, Cooper S etc all around the same Bang for Buck range where as at the min the 172 is on its own!
In the current climate money is getting tighter and tighter and you need to make every pound go further which is why I still think the 1*2's have the upper hand, just too much more money for too little an improvment. I am not saying it isnt a capable hot hatch but there are more factors than handling and performance that need to be addressed!
197 tries too hard to be a hot hatch and for that reason it fails!
1*2 are poorly built and rattle like fook but I dont care cos there awsome to drive.
182 all the way 197 look like your usual milf would drive it
the 197 does have a presence on the road due to the massive arches. they should of made the rear arches wider imo. but i still think the 182 is better especially mine :rasp: