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CLIO IV RS - Trophy from page 111
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CLIO 2 RS trackcar
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
Yes and No ! ^^
YES if the 4RS is a success like the others Clio RS before
and
NO if the 4RS is a fail because in this case all the fans will search to buy one 3RS 200hp and automatically its price will increase ^^
Yes and No ! ^^
YES if the 4RS is a success like the others Clio RS before
and
NO if the 4RS is a fail because in this case all the fans will search to buy one 3RS 200hp and automatically its price will increase ^^
Dr HMS Derv Destroyer
ClioSport Club Member
MK1DTi/vivaro/corsa
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
nice to see sunflower yellow is making a return ( seen it on offical renault site )
and its not as bad looking as i thought...
nice to see sunflower yellow is making a return ( seen it on offical renault site )
and its not as bad looking as i thought...
John Gordon
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 2.0 RS 172 Ph1
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
Love peoples understanding of the modern AMT (Automatic manual transmission). Its the complete lack of understanding that makes people have a bad time with them. For example I keep reading people barking about it not having a clutch... Well it does...but you wont control it. If people drove these boxes remembering that there is a clutch in there and used a bit of mechanical sympathy they actually become very smooth and very enjoyable to use. And as for knocking the VW DSG... mental statement. I drove a v6 TT with the DSG and it was bloody fantastic, going from 6th to 3rd with a few flicks of my L1 finger (playstation pad) in a mater of seconds was phenomenal.. If I could choose a manual H gate or an AMT on track I know which one I would choose.
We are going to have to put up with AMT's and smaller turbo engines because of CO2 ratings and what not, at the end of the day if you want a raw Renault driving experience buy a PH1.. or better still a Willy.
Love peoples understanding of the modern AMT (Automatic manual transmission). Its the complete lack of understanding that makes people have a bad time with them. For example I keep reading people barking about it not having a clutch... Well it does...but you wont control it. If people drove these boxes remembering that there is a clutch in there and used a bit of mechanical sympathy they actually become very smooth and very enjoyable to use. And as for knocking the VW DSG... mental statement. I drove a v6 TT with the DSG and it was bloody fantastic, going from 6th to 3rd with a few flicks of my L1 finger (playstation pad) in a mater of seconds was phenomenal.. If I could choose a manual H gate or an AMT on track I know which one I would choose.
We are going to have to put up with AMT's and smaller turbo engines because of CO2 ratings and what not, at the end of the day if you want a raw Renault driving experience buy a PH1.. or better still a Willy.
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
Point missed.
I want it to have a clutch pedal and a gearstick. Nothing else about the 'box matters to me. At all.
Point missed.
I want it to have a clutch pedal and a gearstick. Nothing else about the 'box matters to me. At all.
John Gordon
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 2.0 RS 172 Ph1
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
Nope, point not missed. I know what your saying. Its the pleasure of driving with a manual box.. but my point is, what does a manual box with a gearstick and pedal actually do that an AMT don't do? the pro's actually favour the AMT. Maintaining both hands on the wheel at all times being the most obvious.
Nope, point not missed. I know what your saying. Its the pleasure of driving with a manual box.. but my point is, what does a manual box with a gearstick and pedal actually do that an AMT don't do? the pro's actually favour the AMT. Maintaining both hands on the wheel at all times being the most obvious.
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
I know an AMT 'box is better in almost every way, that's not disputed...it's the interaction that's lacking.
Clicking a button or pulling a paddle does not come close to the sensation of a perfectly rev matched downshift while braking and entering. It's a skill that's pleasurable to perform.
No AMT can ever replicate that...I hope Renault reconsider. If not It'll have to be a GT86 when the 200 comes up for replacement.
I know an AMT 'box is better in almost every way, that's not disputed...it's the interaction that's lacking.
Clicking a button or pulling a paddle does not come close to the sensation of a perfectly rev matched downshift while braking and entering. It's a skill that's pleasurable to perform.
No AMT can ever replicate that...I hope Renault reconsider. If not It'll have to be a GT86 when the 200 comes up for replacement.
John Gordon
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 2.0 RS 172 Ph1
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
Don't get me wrong I ain't having a go, I know and understand the interaction and its all part of the joy of driving. Perhaps its as I am getting old, or it might be the several botched down shifts and subsequent brown trouser moments i had when i was at the "Ring" not so long ago. I really don't mind the idea of the AMT.
Don't get me wrong I ain't having a go, I know and understand the interaction and its all part of the joy of driving. Perhaps its as I am getting old, or it might be the several botched down shifts and subsequent brown trouser moments i had when i was at the "Ring" not so long ago. I really don't mind the idea of the AMT.
E90 M3
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
I'm no racing driver, nor do I consider myself a particularly fast driver, but that sums it up for me. I enjoy using three pedals. I enjoy rev matching and h&t. That to me is all part of the driving experience.
I'm no racing driver, nor do I consider myself a particularly fast driver, but that sums it up for me. I enjoy using three pedals. I enjoy rev matching and h&t. That to me is all part of the driving experience.
CLIO 2 RS trackcar
E90 M3
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
I had one in my first car too!
But yes, I think you're right mate. In 5 years time there won't be a new car on sale with a manual box.
I had one in my first car too!
But yes, I think you're right mate. In 5 years time there won't be a new car on sale with a manual box.
cafcross
ClioSport Club Member
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely a manual 6 speed box will be cheaper to produce and fit into every model? I thought this was what Renault were trying to do, in terms of keeping manufacturing costs down through 5 door only etc?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely a manual 6 speed box will be cheaper to produce and fit into every model? I thought this was what Renault were trying to do, in terms of keeping manufacturing costs down through 5 door only etc?
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
I imagine it's the Nissan gearbox so Renault have just bought engine and box off Nissan. Meaning they have saved on design costs of the engine and box and probably manufacture by buying from Nissan. Of which they own shares in etc.
Its clear that Renault have "gone cheap" on this car. Using parts from the previous model, only making it in 5 door, using a Nissan engine and drive gear. Saves them a fortune
I imagine it's the Nissan gearbox so Renault have just bought engine and box off Nissan. Meaning they have saved on design costs of the engine and box and probably manufacture by buying from Nissan. Of which they own shares in etc.
Its clear that Renault have "gone cheap" on this car. Using parts from the previous model, only making it in 5 door, using a Nissan engine and drive gear. Saves them a fortune
Rusty Cup
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
That colour scheme is shocking and the dash looks like its made of foam n gaffa tape.. Clutch or no clutch I won't be buying one until I've finished paying for the 200.
That colour scheme is shocking and the dash looks like its made of foam n gaffa tape.. Clutch or no clutch I won't be buying one until I've finished paying for the 200.
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
Certainly seems to be heading that way, plus boost and smaller capacity. At this rate the 200 may well end up being THE last true 'old school' NA hatch with a manual 'box.
This is what I'm hoping. Manual in a Cup version at least surely makes sense.
Only comfort for me is that the GT86 awaits if not. After that though...I may be forced to the dark (boost + AMT) side.
Certainly seems to be heading that way, plus boost and smaller capacity. At this rate the 200 may well end up being THE last true 'old school' NA hatch with a manual 'box.
This is what I'm hoping. Manual in a Cup version at least surely makes sense.
Only comfort for me is that the GT86 awaits if not. After that though...I may be forced to the dark (boost + AMT) side.
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
Have to admit I'm intrigued by them. Aim to take the new RS out on a Renaultsport day at least to see if I could ever get along with it.
Have to admit I'm intrigued by them. Aim to take the new RS out on a Renaultsport day at least to see if I could ever get along with it.
John Gordon
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 2.0 RS 172 Ph1
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
Learn to left foot brake and with the twin clutch box reported in the new clio you should get along just fine.
Learn to left foot brake and with the twin clutch box reported in the new clio you should get along just fine.
John Gordon
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 2.0 RS 172 Ph1
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
I'm probably not as good a driver on here then.
I'm probably not as good a driver on here then.
CLIO 2 RS trackcar
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
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I'm probably not as good a driver on here then.
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John Gordon
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 2.0 RS 172 Ph1
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
*as everyone on here. I am useless at typing on my phone with auto correct etc.
*as everyone on here. I am useless at typing on my phone with auto correct etc.
John Gordon
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 2.0 RS 172 Ph1
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
You can see the flappy paddles. It will be the same setup as most other similar systems, paddles and a stick with D (A), N, R and then you will push the stick to one side and get a + and - for manual mode.
You can see the flappy paddles. It will be the same setup as most other similar systems, paddles and a stick with D (A), N, R and then you will push the stick to one side and get a + and - for manual mode.
CLIO 2 RS trackcar
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
First contact ^^
It is in French but the pictures speak for everybody ^^
It is not the RS version of course
it is the "low" version (sorry in French we say "Entrée de gamme" but I dont know how to say that in English)
[video=dailymotion;xsc7ku]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsc7ku_renault-clio-iv-premiere-rencontre_auto[/video]
First contact ^^
It is in French but the pictures speak for everybody ^^
It is not the RS version of course
it is the "low" version (sorry in French we say "Entrée de gamme" but I dont know how to say that in English)
[video=dailymotion;xsc7ku]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsc7ku_renault-clio-iv-premiere-rencontre_auto[/video]
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CLIO 2 RS trackcar
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
"Entry level model" is the best translation for the French "Entrée de gamme"...
But with the air conditioning and several details very correct and nice for an "entry level model" I think
"Entry level model" is the best translation for the French "Entrée de gamme"...
But with the air conditioning and several details very correct and nice for an "entry level model" I think
Golf GT & A4 Avant
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
at least with out a manual clutch the mechanically inept won't be destroying gearboxes. I'm quite curious how much strain is managed on full rev shifts. I'd imagine it's been designed to reduce as much as possible
at least with out a manual clutch the mechanically inept won't be destroying gearboxes. I'm quite curious how much strain is managed on full rev shifts. I'd imagine it's been designed to reduce as much as possible
CLIO 2 RS trackcar
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
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CLIO 2 RS trackcar
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
In a French video about the version Dci we can see below the Speed's display, 3 not activated clairvoyants but which can maybe serve in the version RS, if I remember well : "Normal", "Sport" and "Race" ^^
In a French video about the version Dci we can see below the Speed's display, 3 not activated clairvoyants but which can maybe serve in the version RS, if I remember well : "Normal", "Sport" and "Race" ^^
CLIO 2 RS trackcar
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
It is a first revue of a classic (non the RS version) Clio 4 in French sorry, made by members of the French Website & Forum "Clio.com" but the pics are universal ^^
It is a first revue of a classic (non the RS version) Clio 4 in French sorry, made by members of the French Website & Forum "Clio.com" but the pics are universal ^^
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Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
i see the stereo may now have a fancy UI but it still sounds as equally pish as the Clio 3.
i see the stereo may now have a fancy UI but it still sounds as equally pish as the Clio 3.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news
I love the look of it.
Its a shame the Renaultsport model doesn't have what I look for in a spec sheet.
I love the look of it.
Its a shame the Renaultsport model doesn't have what I look for in a spec sheet.
