Clio's just boiled/dumped itself :(

[Rob]

Rob.
Im far from ignoring people, but although people are saying specialist specialist specialist I didn't have a specialist infront of me at the time, what I did have was kwikfit, that's all there is to it.

My point is mate, it'd be cheaper now, I can guarantee it, to make your excues at kiwk fit and get it out of there, then get it down to a specialist.

If you just want a running car and aren't worried about how it runs, then fine, but I get the feeling that you'll care if it comes back knackard.

 

[Allan-]

I agree with the OP on what he is saying that you don't know if someone is bad untill you try them, but they might be the best mechanic in the world but with out the tools they can't do a job (so at least confirm they are using the correct timing tools).

Personally i wouldn't use kwik fit as I took my car into Kwik fit once to have the tyres balanced, they snapped 2 wheel bolts when putting the wheels back on the car and then gave it me back and said it was my problem to fix it !

Equally a local garage had my car in for MOT and they put a hole in the gear box test driving it! but they replace my gearbox and got it all sorted for me. I still use them as i know they won't rag my car any time soon

 

[dano17439]

My Mrs know if i ever found her in a kwik fit i would divorce her. They are utter cowboys. If you value your car please arrange to be towed somewhere else

 

[jenic]

My Mrs know if i ever found her in a kwik fit i would divorce her. They are utter cowboys. If you value your car please arrange to be towed somewhere else

Bit harsh, they are fine for tyres or a new back box on a bank holiday monday.

I wouldn't let them do proper work on the car though, and definitely not a cambelt lol. It's interesting they say the cambelt needs changing. You'd think it would just be a new aux belt and pump. Plus the aux kit but they won't know that so it won't get done and more parts will slowly fail over the coming months..

 

[AlexW]

Why have they even said the cambelt needs changing?

OP will come back, say the car is fine etc, they did a brilliant job and we were all wrong, then for whatever reason in a couple of months, it'll have the timing rectified and he'll admit defeat. Standard forum popcorn time.

 

[Paul182]

What i find a bit strange and i'm no expert but the car was running but overheating .. so the belt being missing would explain this as the water pump would not be doing its job. i can even understand that the pump may well be fucked seized and threw the aux belt off but if it was still running OK other than overheating why does it need a new cam belt?

 

[The Fatty]

flol at this thread and @Corby G! : pulls up a chair:

I didn't even know quickfit did this level of work. They 100% do not know how to do the timing on the f4r if they haven't done one before. Your devaluing your car by getting it done at quickfit and paying way out of pocket. I would love to know how they have ascertained that the cambelt needs changing? If you drove it to the garage, im assuming the engine ran ok bar the temp issue?! Water pump works off the aux belt so it cant be for this reason.

i really dont understand why you would ignore the unanimous advice from a forum that's in-the-know. They will need the proper timing tools which they wont have. Maybe thats were the extra cost is coming from, i.e. they will buy them? Getting it to a specialist and getting it done wouldn't have cost you more in time or money!

Sound to me like your too scared to tell they you want to take it somewhere else imo because your reasoning make no sense.

 

[aucky]

Subscribed

I guess 146.2 BHP after QF arse it up

But.. Screen wash!!

 

[Ex-User (60778)]

Starts thread, doesn't listen to everyone's advice, enjoy a nasty bill for work I would not want them to be doing. Stop being a ***** and get it out of that garage

 

[Ex-User (60778)]

Corby get the car recovered to a specialist

1) why does the timing belt need doing??

2)why replace pump bearings it can't be done and pumps are cheap anyway.

3)Aux belt has gone! Where round the crank pulley? Timing belt slipped?

4) kwikfit will not have the correct tools,if they have i will pay the bill.

5)kwikfit will not know the correct process

6) winter check f**koff it has no coolant in it so what they going to do there?

7)brakes f**koff again they will say you need pads and discs guranteed. And they have no idea on the workings of brake calipers never mind see if they are working!!

8) Have you got £1200 for a new engine? Because some valves are going to get bent.

9) windscreen wash flol.

And 10) For once please listen to what is being said . Phone them first thing and tell them to leave the car as you are getting it collected.

Phone Mick above he isn't far from you i think??? See if he can assist

Well said

 

[Corby G]

Right. Apparently my dads been doing to digging around, spoke to renault technical and been on the phone to kwikfit. Renault says the two different engines in the 172 i.e. i'm guessing the ph1 and ph2. One uses a cambelt to drive the pump and one uses the aux belt to drive the pump. This could explain why it over heated and also the mysteriously disappearing aux belt.

I've also told my dad about he comments on here and he's mentioned this to kwikfit, the guy fully understands why you would all be saying this as it's a national brand and maybe all of you have had bad experiences. My dad also mentioned about having the correct tools to do the job, Now I can understand this however as it's not a run of the mill car they would expect to receive that wants work doing. The guy said: 1. we asses the job before we do it, to find out if we have the tools to do it. 2. If the technician is able to do the job.
IF the technician is unable and or they don't have the tools to do the job they will get someone from renault to come fit the parts. What the guy did when I took the car in he obviously looked at the spec and thought that it would need a cambelt before looking at the car. SO. upon looking at the serv history the car's cambelt has only done 10k miles and will not need a cambelt on unless it does for some reason genuinely need changing. So the bill will be looking much better over half infact.

On a lighter note as it's my birthday today.. My K-Tec supersport exhaust has arrived (looking all shiny might I add) to replace the stealth, so this could be up for sale soon (only the backbox)

 

[George182]

There is one engine in the 172 and the cambelt does not 'drive' the water pump.

Genuinely mate - they don't know what they are doing

Happy birthday.

 

[McGherkin]

From what they have said, they are clueless. Get it out of there before they wreck it.

 

[Addicted]

As I said before, them saying it needed a cambelt in the first place was an amateur mistake, and once which should have set off alarm bells.

So what are they actually doing, aux belt KIT and waterpump?

Happy birthday and all, maybe with an extra year under your belt you have become wiser, and can see the mistake?

 

[MartinR]

Lol 2 engines.

Please provide the dealership name as they also have Retards working there!

This thread is utter shocking. I bet just a new belt goes on instead of new kit

 

[Budgie]

f**k me, what a numpty,

 

[Corby G]

As I said before, them saying it needed a cambelt in the first place was an amateur mistake, and once which should have set off alarm bells.

So what are they actually doing, aux belt KIT and waterpump?

Happy birthday and all, maybe with an extra year under your belt you have become wiser, and can see the mistake?

My dads been on the phone to renault and passed it on to kwikfit basically, if they don't know what they're doing then they said they'll get someone out from renault.

Happy birthday and all, maybe with an extra year under your belt you have become wiser, and can see the mistake?

Cheers, and piss off hahaha

 

[George182]

I am out - you refuse to take sensible advice.

Good luck.

 

[McGherkin]

'If they can't do it they'll get someone from Renault to do it'

Frying pan. Fire.

 

[Corby G]

'If they can't do it they'll get someone from Renault to do it'

Frying pan. Fire.

To change a waterpump and aux belt?

Ok

 

[banther]

Flol at this thread.

Dont get so f**king arsey about people shouting down Sh1t-Fit; pretty much everyone here is speaking from personal experience, and if not from anecdotal experience.

From what you have told us they have said (also megalolz at mentioning the barrage of hate they have got on here - what the f**k did you expect them to say?!) people here with a little bit of Chipipedia knowledge can tell you straight up its wrong.

We are really REALLY trying to help you - but it seems to be falling on deaf ears. Im a mechanical r****d but even I know what they have told you sounds fishy.

Yeah - "I'll give them a go until they f**k up" - sort of understand that but given the evidence, come on....

Have a read of this (http://www.bristoleditor.co.uk/how-kwik-fit-risked-my-life-to-make-a-sale-shocking-exclusive/)

They f**ked up badly with my brakes too - allowing me onto the road with brakes that were nowhere near safe.

It's your car - f**k it up if you want to (and pay £650 for the privilege) but why do you think people are taking time out of their day to say STOP, PLEASE DONT!!?

 

[McGherkin]

To change a waterpump and aux belt?

Ok

No, to change cambelt. Or have Kwik fit decided it doesn't need doing now?

 

[l33th3tr33]

The fact they even said 'if we can't do it we'll get someone from Renault in to do it' PROVES that they don't know what the f**k they're doing. I'd be more than fucked off if I got a bag of bent valves for my birthday tbh.

Happy birthday btw.

 

[Corby G]

No, to change cambelt. Or have Kwik fit decided it doesn't need doing now?

Apparently by renault themselves they said it doesn't need doing. Kwikfit said they wont do it.

What needs changing is the aux belt, as it's no longer there because the fucked bearing whipped it off and and the internals of the pump and pump bearing. The casing is all that's salvageable.

It goes without saying.. If the cambelt is not getting touched, there wont be anything wrong with the timing of the engine.

 

[Coops Mk1]

beggars belief, it really does

 

[Corby G]

beggars belief, it really does

I'll see later today, like i said i'll hold my hands up if it goes tits up.

 

[Paul182]

how much are they charging now? would it not be easier to just get a new water pump?

 

[Ex-User (60778)]

how much are they charging now? would it not be easier to just get a new water pump?

2000000 rupees, thankyou come again

 

[M26]

 

[Adamm.]

Lol leave him to it now tbh, its his car so he will be paying the price not us.

 

[MartinR]

No its no a specialist job to do a water pump and aux belt.

But it does need to be a waterpump without a plastic propeller. Must be metal imo

also it MUST have a full auxcillary belt kit its not worth the risk.

I would be trying to find the aux belt tbh as some of it may be round the crank pulley.

Please repoet back with what other things they find wrong with the car.

 

[MG cup]

I haven't read the whole thread and I'm not sure anyone has mentioned it yet but why the feck are they re using a water pump casing when you can get new genuine parts for £70.

aux kit, pump, coolant = job done.

£350 worth of work at the max with genuine parts used.

 

[.Andy.]

Would you mind putting up your reg in this thread?

just so none of us ever end up with this car

 

[Mr R.]

Full Aux belt kit from Renault is £50 but from Euro car parts its £150.

I can't see KF going to Renault to buy the parts.

 

[aucky]

I'm so relieved they're not doing the cambelt now. They can't f**k up an aux belt... Can they?

Shame the op hasn't got the balls to tell KwickFault to jog on :|

 

[rctempire]

Corby
See how your car overheated or showed the engine light.
Have you considered the head could be warped now?

Thanks.

 

[The Fatty]

Right. Apparently my dads been doing to digging around, spoke to renault technical and been on the phone to kwikfit. Renault says the two different engines in the 172 i.e. i'm guessing the ph1 and ph2. One uses a cambelt to drive the pump and one uses the aux belt to drive the pump. This could explain why it over heated and also the mysteriously disappearing aux belt.

I've also told my dad about he comments on here and he's mentioned this to kwikfit, the guy fully understands why you would all be saying this as it's a national brand and maybe all of you have had bad experiences. My dad also mentioned about having the correct tools to do the job, Now I can understand this however as it's not a run of the mill car they would expect to receive that wants work doing. The guy said: 1. we asses the job before we do it, to find out if we have the tools to do it. 2. If the technician is able to do the job.
IF the technician is unable and or they don't have the tools to do the job they will get someone from renault to come fit the parts. What the guy did when I took the car in he obviously looked at the spec and thought that it would need a cambelt before looking at the car. SO. upon looking at the serv history the car's cambelt has only done 10k miles and will not need a cambelt on unless it does for some reason genuinely need changing. So the bill will be looking much better over half infact.

On a lighter note as it's my birthday today.. My K-Tec supersport exhaust has arrived (looking all shiny might I add) to replace the stealth, so this could be up for sale soon (only the backbox)

Well this is good news imo. You and your dad have used the information in this thread and avoided a whole lot of problems regarding the cambelt by asking the question of why it need to be done. As other have said, there is only 1 F4R block in the 172. There are 2 different inlets/throttles between a ph1&ph2 but the main block is exactly the same. IMO they either really didnt have a clue what they were talking about (which is most likely) or were deliberately trying to get more money out of you (and they wouldn't of even touched the cambelt).

Kwik-fit should be competent enough to change the aux belt though. Just make sure they use a full aux belt kit, as this includes a new pensioner and idler bearing (which should always be replaced with a new belt). The whole kit cost around £100 (OE). Also make sure they don't 'rebuild' your waterpump, just put a new one in (again OE spec). There very little that can go wrong in this area (unless they forget how the belt is routed).

Happy Birthday

 

[Mr R.]

Wrong as I have already said, the FULL aux kit from Renault is £50.

Not £100.

 

[The Fatty]

Wrong as I have already said, the FULL aux kit from Renault is £50.

Not £100.

dont be pedantic. I meant you can get it for under £100.

 

[Mr R.]

Yes £50 from Renault.