Closed road motorsport consultation

[mark123]

The government is doing a consultation on allowing local councils to close roads for motorsport use.

The MSA have prepared some guidelines on how to support the idea.

You have until 10th April to have your say.

http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/newsletter/ClosedRoads.pdf

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/proposal-to-authorise-motor-sport-events-on-public-roads

 

[Goodj]

If this went through, it would be very good indeed.

 

[Cookie]

Interesting to see if it goes through. There's been a fairly large backlash in Surrey about closing roads for cycling events, and I imagine motorsport will be even more disruptive.

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Bring it on !

Shame I live on a cul-de-sac

 

[Renault Wolverhampton]

they need to fix the roads round here before anything like that happens!

 

[Goodj]

Shame I live on a cul-de-sac

"Kart-way"

As cookie says though, you know that all the Daily Mail readers will be burning wicker effigies of David Cameron and Nigel Mansell if they heard that something was being enjoyed within 30 miles of their kitchen.

Also, re: condition of the roads.
Nah, if you wanted to race on a circuit-smooth circuit, you'd use a circuit.
The roads seem good enough for the WRC, pretty sure a minor club event will get by. If a road-circuit as to be used for a formula race, then the organisers would have to throw some money in to resurface the roads to their specification. Would the DM readers complain if their road was resurfaced, not at the cost of the tax payer?.....probably, yes.

 

[BoatNonce]

This needs to be stickied. Seriously.

 

[bloke]

we've still got the sprints on the prom at new brighton.

Would the DM readers complain if their road was resurfaced, not at the cost of the tax payer?.....probably, yes.

they even complain when the bloody wind changes direction

 

[Advikaz]

This would be mega.

Would love to see something like the Birmingham Superprix again!

 

[Goodj]

Would love to see something like the Birmingham Superprix again!

Classic F3.

Money would be on Red Bull setting up a road race around Milton Keynes..dat publicity.

Straight line. 90-degree. Straight line. 90 Degree. Fancy corner made out of 2 roundabouts. Straight line, 90 degree.

.....hold on.....

....Thats a Tilke design

 

[mark123]

we've still got the sprints on the prom at new brighton.




they even complain when the bloody wind changes direction

I always wondered how they get around it for that. I'm from the Wirral originally.

 

[Advikaz]

There's a lot of pricks about, amazes me that people move next to a race circuit & then complain that they can hear cars/bikes. Honestly absolute oxygen theives who should be put down.

 

[ed55j]

Really hope this happens, Jim Clark is one of the best rallies of the year.

 

[BoatNonce]

I always wondered how they get around it for that. I'm from the Wirral originally.

At the moment it needs an Act Of Parliament to suspend the road laws. 18 month waiting time to get one.

 

[mark123]

For anyone who would like to respond but can't be arsed I've made it easy for you.

Just send the pre-canned response (see below) from the MSA to msc@culture.gsi.gov.uk.

Q1. Do you agree with the proposal to give local authorities the powers to allow motor sport events on public roadssubject to the local consultation? If you disagree please give reasons.


Answer: Yes I agree. The UK leads the world in terms of motor sport with the industry generating an estimated £9bn for the economy annually and employing 41,000 people in 4,300 companies. Yet the UK lags behind much of the rest of the world, including the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man and Northern Ireland, in not allowing motor sport events to take place on closed public roads. Allowing motor sport events to be held on closed public roads will provide an economic boost to host communities; support the growth of UK motor sport and the associated industry; allow engaging events to be created; and create a valuable platform for taking road safety messaging to the wider public.


Q2. Do you agree that local authorities should be able to close roads for motor sport events? If you disagree please give reasons.


Answer: Yes I agree. Empowering local authorities to be able to close roads for motor sport events would represent a positive devolution of power. It will mean that local people, rather than politicians in Westminster, will be able to determine what happens on the roads in their region and will ensure that Parliament does not need to spend its valuable time debating whether or not to close a road somewhere in the country. It is an important principle that no organisation other than the Local Authority should be granted powers to close its roads, as this ensures that no event can be forced upon a region against the will of the locally elected Authority.


Q3. Do you agree that local authorities should have the power under certain circumstances to suspend the speed limit and applicable road traffic regulations? If there are any traffic regulations you would prefer not to see suspended, please give reasons.


Answer: Yes, I agree that local authorities should have the power under certain circumstances to suspend the speed limit and applicable road traffic regulations. This is on the understanding that the road traffic regulations are replaced by established and robust sporting regulations, as laid down by the MSA and ACU, to ensure that all events are well organised, properly regulated and fully insured.


Q4. Do you agree that the Motor Sports Association and the Auto Cycle Union should be the “Authorising Authority” for any motor sport events on public roads?


Answer: Yes I agree. The Motor Sports Association (MSA) and the Auto-Cycle Union (ACU) both have many decades of experience of governing four- and two-wheel motor sport in the UK. The MSA is recognised by motor sport’s world governing body, the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), as the sole national sporting authority for four-wheel motor sport in the UK. The ACU is similarly recognised by the Fédération Internationale de Motocyclisme (FIM) as the national sporting authority for two-wheel motor sport in the British Isles. They are the only organisations with the experience, knowledge and resources necessary to act as the Authorising Authorities for any motor sport events on public roads. With the MSA and ACU as Authorising Authorities, only drivers and riders who have been formally licensed for competition by the governing bodies would be eligible to take part in motor sport events on closed public roads. The MSA and ACU licensing structures are suitably robust and rigorously enforced to ensure that licensed competitors are suitably competent to take part in the motor sport events they enter.


Q5. Do you agree that the Sports Ground Safety Authority could provide valuable expertise and guidance to ensure motor sport events on roads can be delivered safely?


Answer: No, I doubt that the SGSA would be able to add value in this environment. Both the Motor Sports Association (MSA) and the Auto-Cycle Union (ACU) operate comprehensive, long-established and successful risk management programmes for four- and two-wheel motor sport respectively. Motor sport is a unique and complex sporting activity and requires specific experience and expertise to deal with its diverse events and venues, and especially to manage the risks associated with ve*hicles travelling at speed which is unique to our sport. It seems unlikely that the SGSA would be able to offer anything valuable in this context over and above the experts from the MSA and ACU, other than perhaps the facilitation of a forum for liaison with the necessary statutory bodies. Furthermore, the involvement of another body simply introduces an additional layer of bureaucracy that inevitably adds costs to organisers and competitors alike.

 

[BoatNonce]

I'd like to add that this is the last week of the consultation. A lot of people on here are supposedly involved in motorsport, and I'm surprised that this thread has been so quiet.

 

[ed55j]

So what happens next? When do they decide on a verdict?

 

[mark123]

It basically goes to a vote in parliament AFAIK not sure if there is a date for that yet.