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dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
Sometimes
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
Well i've been busy.
90% of the time I have also been absolutely scared senseless, i'll explain - So I updated my ecu firmware last week to the latest version which now has an altered dwell time (no idea what that means but apparently it stops the ecu from burning out), I now have a revmeter, I now also have a coolant display, I also now have a fuel pump shut off once primed which is awesome as before it continued to pump on ignition.
That's all great, I did however had absolutely no fire up what so ever... I copied over the base map, my map from Chris @ efi and altered some settings thanks to the help from those who had the same ecu as me however it didn't fire at all. The ECU was sensing so RPM. I spoke with a guy at work who has the same ecu as me on his mx5 turbo and told me to play with the crank trigger setting, it can either decent the signal when its rising or falling. Mine was set to the wrong one after the update and luckily changing this to falling fixed it - it then fired up.
I was more relieved after this fix compared to the first fire when I fitted the engine, I think it was more because it's only a week before the re-map!
I brought a chair downstairs because I knew it was going to be a long night haha
I received a new track day helmet. Absolutely love it.
The next thing on the back of my mind was the brake cooling duct. I originally bought 100mm ducts but didn't want to run 100mm ducting purely because of the size of it. So with a 100-50mm reducer and some 50mm tubing it's all secure. I want to get a laser thermometer to see if it actually makes a difference, and consequently have a play with different sized deflector plates if it doesn't.
The next thing I did was install the emergency hammer and seatbelt cutter. I've opted for this place as it's very easy to reach when strapped in tight in the harnesses.
Started with my favourite invention, the riv nut
I made a better more secure false floor out of 2mm steel plate and some grip tape. It feels much better now compared to the fake carbon fibre abs plastic I had in there before.
I also wired in my N75 valve (boost control) properly, I was told that I could just wire in my carbon canister wiring to the boost solenoid and it would work, nope! Turns out you have to wire in a 12V feed to one side of the N75 valve whilst ONE wire from the carbon canister acts as a switched earth for boost control. It's a massive saving grace that I found this as it wouldn't have been working on my first mapping session...
Engine bay pics now it's all finished...
Edgy interior pic to finish
I'm buying some front discs and pads tomorrow (£250!! fml) ready for delivery in the week then fingers crossed i'm all pretty much ready for mapping mk2.
Excited? Yeah
Nervous? Unbelievably
90% of the time I have also been absolutely scared senseless, i'll explain - So I updated my ecu firmware last week to the latest version which now has an altered dwell time (no idea what that means but apparently it stops the ecu from burning out), I now have a revmeter, I now also have a coolant display, I also now have a fuel pump shut off once primed which is awesome as before it continued to pump on ignition.
That's all great, I did however had absolutely no fire up what so ever... I copied over the base map, my map from Chris @ efi and altered some settings thanks to the help from those who had the same ecu as me however it didn't fire at all. The ECU was sensing so RPM. I spoke with a guy at work who has the same ecu as me on his mx5 turbo and told me to play with the crank trigger setting, it can either decent the signal when its rising or falling. Mine was set to the wrong one after the update and luckily changing this to falling fixed it - it then fired up.
I was more relieved after this fix compared to the first fire when I fitted the engine, I think it was more because it's only a week before the re-map!
I brought a chair downstairs because I knew it was going to be a long night haha
I received a new track day helmet. Absolutely love it.
The next thing on the back of my mind was the brake cooling duct. I originally bought 100mm ducts but didn't want to run 100mm ducting purely because of the size of it. So with a 100-50mm reducer and some 50mm tubing it's all secure. I want to get a laser thermometer to see if it actually makes a difference, and consequently have a play with different sized deflector plates if it doesn't.
The next thing I did was install the emergency hammer and seatbelt cutter. I've opted for this place as it's very easy to reach when strapped in tight in the harnesses.
Started with my favourite invention, the riv nut
I made a better more secure false floor out of 2mm steel plate and some grip tape. It feels much better now compared to the fake carbon fibre abs plastic I had in there before.
I also wired in my N75 valve (boost control) properly, I was told that I could just wire in my carbon canister wiring to the boost solenoid and it would work, nope! Turns out you have to wire in a 12V feed to one side of the N75 valve whilst ONE wire from the carbon canister acts as a switched earth for boost control. It's a massive saving grace that I found this as it wouldn't have been working on my first mapping session...
Engine bay pics now it's all finished...
Edgy interior pic to finish
I'm buying some front discs and pads tomorrow (£250!! fml) ready for delivery in the week then fingers crossed i'm all pretty much ready for mapping mk2.
Excited? Yeah
Nervous? Unbelievably
incy-spider
ClioSport Club Member
Well i've been busy.
90% of the time I have also been absolutely scared senseless, i'll explain - So I updated my ecu firmware last week to the latest version which now has an altered dwell time (no idea what that means but apparently it stops the ecu from burning out), I now have a revmeter, I now also have a coolant display, I also now have a fuel pump shut off once primed which is awesome as before it continued to pump on ignition.
That's all great, I did however had absolutely no fire up what so ever... I copied over the base map, my map from Chris @ efi and altered some settings thanks to the help from those who had the same ecu as me however it didn't fire at all. The ECU was sensing so RPM. I spoke with a guy at work who has the same ecu as me on his mx5 turbo and told me to play with the crank trigger setting, it can either decent the signal when its rising or falling. Mine was set to the wrong one after the update and luckily changing this to falling fixed it - it then fired up.
I was more relieved after this fix compared to the first fire when I fitted the engine, I think it was more because it's only a week before the re-map!
I brought a chair downstairs because I knew it was going to be a long night haha
I received a new track day helmet. Absolutely love it.
The next thing on the back of my mind was the brake cooling duct. I originally bought 100mm ducts but didn't want to run 100mm ducting purely because of the size of it. So with a 100-50mm reducer and some 50mm tubing it's all secure. I want to get a laser thermometer to see if it actually makes a difference, and consequently have a play with different sized deflector plates if it doesn't.
The next thing I did was install the emergency hammer and seatbelt cutter. I've opted for this place as it's very easy to reach when strapped in tight in the harnesses.
Started with my favourite invention, the riv nut
I made a better more secure false floor out of 2mm steel plate and some grip tape. It feels much better now compared to the fake carbon fibre abs plastic I had in there before.
I also wired in my N75 valve (boost control) properly, I was told that I could just wire in my carbon canister wiring to the boost solenoid and it would work, nope! Turns out you have to wire in a 12V feed to one side of the N75 valve whilst ONE wire from the carbon canister acts as a switched earth for boost control. It's a massive saving grace that I found this as it wouldn't have been working on my first mapping session...
Engine bay pics now it's all finished...
Edgy interior pic to finish
I'm buying some front discs and pads tomorrow (£250!! fml) ready for delivery in the week then fingers crossed i'm all pretty much ready for mapping mk2.
Excited? Yeah
Nervous? Unbelievably
Here's a helpful comment.... f**k YEAH!!!!!!
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
Final piece to the puzzle has arrived.
Hc 280mm discs and winmax w5 brembo pads.
The previous pads were dead
All fitted tonight. I've re loctited my studs too and they're setting over 24hrs.
Its just a waiting game for Saturday now I guess! I may go for a drive tomorrow night or Friday just to make sure everything is working as it should before mapping.
Hc 280mm discs and winmax w5 brembo pads.
The previous pads were dead
All fitted tonight. I've re loctited my studs too and they're setting over 24hrs.
Its just a waiting game for Saturday now I guess! I may go for a drive tomorrow night or Friday just to make sure everything is working as it should before mapping.
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
280mm discs? Aren't they 312mm for the Brembo calipers?
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
Haha you're too Yorkshire for your own good!
You can choose to use clio discs or Megane discs based on the adapters. I've gone for 280mm as they're mega cheap.
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Ahh that's good. Yeah a lot cheaper.
Who's too Yorkshire now[emoji23] [emoji23].
Don't you run 15's on track? You'll need 280 discs for 15's anyway.
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
Haha. Nah Meganes also fit under fine.
And you almost had a viable excuse! @leeds2592 take him a flat cap on Saturday so everyone knows how Yorkshire he is[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]
Gus
ClioSport Moderator
182Turbo,DCi90
Main problem is you need 16 inch wheels to be able to run 300mm scenic discs. Megane discs are 5 studs anyway.
172 Ph1
Final piece to the puzzle has arrived.
Hc 280mm discs and winmax w5 brembo pads
I fancy some of these @dann2707 , where from and how much please sir .
And this build has been awesome , I was aware of the ecu upsets you have been having , but so glad it's all sorted ready Saturday. Deffo go for a drive m8 , see how it all is ready for mapping [emoji4]
I am going to be running the same callipers and size discs. Let me know how they feel with those pads in [emoji1303]
Seat Leon Cupra R
Gotcha, thanks. Being a VAG guy myself I'm fortunate enough that most things run the same bolt patterns (5x100mm for mk4-based, 5x112mm for mk5-based etc) so things are fairly simple to chop and change.
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
I got them from kam racing for £200 a pair!
I'll let you know how I get on with them matey.
TODAY'S THE DAY ARGHGHHHHHHHHH
woken up early as I can't sleep, too nervous
Ol’ Tarby
ClioSport Moderator
Clio 220 Trophy
Hope you have a more successful trip this time mate. If I wasn't stuck in the garden digging, I'd of driven up to meet you as it's not far
Good luck mate
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
Thanks mate!
Cheers broski!
830190153
Thank you, it's appreciated!
Setting off in 40 mins. Lets go spend some cash haha
incy-spider
ClioSport Club Member
[emoji120] hope its a great success (borat voice)
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
Cheers mate! And thank you very much for coming with today, it really made me feel a lot better! It was horrible being there by myself last time haha
Soooooooo,
The day started off okayish - injector issue had now vanished surprise surprise.
The car was being mapped before Chris told me that the fuel pump had just died.. not good. We tried the relays and it turned out it was an ecu issue. As it happened the ECU had a bit of a nightmare and reset itself! I think it's a bug with the ecu where if you're connected to it and modifying then it can cause this issue.
Anyway, mapping commenced and the car was making 300ft/lb torque but wouldn't make it past 250bhp
There seems to be a restriction somewhere, Chris being an absolutely incredible man (seriously go to EFI) he welded in a boss on the boost pipe for me so that we could measure the delta p across the turbo to the manifold to see if we were losing pressure.It turned out we were only losing 4.5psi across the intercooler set up, exhaust back pressure wasn't too bad either but Chris mentioned that the power kept creeping up when the intercooler was left to rest a bit so I think its cooler related why i'm not making a better power figure.
The car ended up making 256bhp and 300ft/lb. Obviously i'm disappointed with the bhp figure especially with the bigger turbo, injectors etc but at the same time the car absolutely flies, it's mental coming from a 59bhp lupo.
My plan is to drive Boris on a few track days this year, make the most out of it then sort out the power issue later on this year/next year. I'm not thaaaaaaaaat bothered as it feels really quick now but as you can tell I am eager to get the most out of it.
incy-spider
ClioSport Club Member
Hey mate, not all bad! Do you have a pic of the graph? Quite like to see, 300ftlb must be nuts in a Clio!
Great result mate. Even if it's not the figure you were after!
Most importantly it's at a safe level, and there's no mechanical issues. you have plenty of scope to increase it once the intercooler has been rectified.
Like you said the best thing to do now is enjoy it as it is, get used to a completely different Boris.
Regardless of the power result bud you should be proud of what you've achieved, and I personally can't wait to see it in the metal at CSF!
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Most importantly it's at a safe level, and there's no mechanical issues. you have plenty of scope to increase it once the intercooler has been rectified.
Like you said the best thing to do now is enjoy it as it is, get used to a completely different Boris.
Regardless of the power result bud you should be proud of what you've achieved, and I personally can't wait to see it in the metal at CSF!
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imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
That must go well.
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Challenge accepted?!?!
Great ftlb figures mate, are the rods safe at this level?
Chris aleays try's to lower the torque on mine because of the rods.
I doubt you would really notice 15hp on the road mate but i know you and this will be bugging you until you figure out what kept the hp figures down.
Chris aleays try's to lower the torque on mine because of the rods.
I doubt you would really notice 15hp on the road mate but i know you and this will be bugging you until you figure out what kept the hp figures down.
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
Thanks mate
I think it'll be a fun battle! Let's do it :wink:
Thanks mate, good to see you! We need to do it more often for sure.
Apparently it should be 300ftlb really, it's just the clutch was starting to slip a bit apparently thats what makes it read that. He said I may have air in the system which sounds likely as I bled it once and once only, thought it was a miracle it bled first time.
Cheers Sam, will post it below!
The quotes has messed up so i've answered your last post first haha. Cheers though Rob, it's definitely time to drive it!
I've got a car show at work next Friday and everyone is itching to see it so will take it then for a decent drive!
Good plan mate, are you hitting CSF this year again? I may have already asked you.
It certainly feels great man!
Below pics from today and yesterday, using flickr now from the gf's computer.
This was whilst waiting at EFI
On the dyno
Graphs
@incy-spider
Me and @Akay went to @Coops Turbo house today to help out / have a chat. Ben climbed in my boot, was fun
I took a pic
Took them both for a drive!
Then I got him tucked up in bed as i'm going to do an oil change next week and do a full nut and bolt check to investigate a slight knocking.
I've already got a long list of little maintenance stuff I want to do too so will start knocking things off that list. All easy stuff though.
I'm now looking at oil p and t gauges and i've got my eye on one that has both on one dial as I hate the whole gauges f**king everywhere look.
It sort of works out the same price if not a little bit cheaper as it's £100 including all the fittings whereas separate gauges are around £45 each but with stuff on top. This is definitely a necessity though not "oooh car parts shiny shiny".
I then need a sandwich plate which is around £15 from eBay then i'm all good.
Ahh man maths, love you.
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Top job mate
incy-spider
ClioSport Club Member
Plx gauges mate, they do all the gauges in one with just add on modules, save the whole gauges f**king everywhere look for sure!!
That graph is nuts! Chris is a legend, I swear he runs on petrol fumes, never see him eat!!
That graph is nuts! Chris is a legend, I swear he runs on petrol fumes, never see him eat!!
leeds2592
ClioSport Club Member
Bean 182 + E70 X5
He must do, I met Dan about an hour after he got there but I was still there for 4-5 hours, I didn't see him eat or drink for the full time I was there!
