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You beat me to it Roamer!!!!!!! My words exactly!!!!! ClioJohn, that pic you sent me defo aint on 40mm mine on 40mm you could get your fist in the arch betweeen the tyre, 60mm, you cant get you finger in!!!! (that pic i posted in the other thread was the day after i fitted the springs, so it hadnt bedded in) its much lower now, the tyre sits in the arch at the back, and nearly at the front