FINALLY - Top mount modified part from Renault!

[charlesk]

Yes they are unfortunately.
Do you need a full set of mounts? Why?
Solid type ones are better value only on a track car.Although the steering sharpens up a little bit and you loose some flex from the std rubber ones, they transmit noises more and they do put more strain on the chassis. Some like them some don't.

I need new top mounts - are they really over £100 inc vat from renault?

Surely the £150 K-Tec racing solid top mounts are better value for money?

 

[Gardus]

If you're going to fit coilovers or your car is track only use the solit top mount...I fear it's going to be a bit too stiff for the road.

 

[charlesk]

Although my advice is also to stick to the std top mounts unless you have problems with them and/or you use the car on track a lot, I disagree on the stiffness comment.

I now run a set of the black K-tec ones (picked them up cheap), with eibachs and std shocks. They haven't made the car noticeably stiffer, but they have sharpened up the steering a bit/made it feel a tiny bit more precise. They do transmit road/suspension noises more though (no clunking/knocking however). I'll know how they do on track on Monday.

If you're going to fit coilovers or your car is track only use the solit top mount...I fear it's going to be a bit too stiff for the road.

 

[Cup_Phil]

Yes they are unfortunately.
Do you need a full set of mounts? Why?
Solid type ones are better value only on a track car.Although the steering sharpens up a little bit and you loose some flex from the std rubber ones, they transmit noises more and they do put more strain on the chassis. Some like them some don't.

I got a warning for excess play in the top mounts on my MOT - they've done 110k and need replacing

Fitting Bilstein B14 coilovers next week and it's a weekend/track car - so I'm thinking solid top mounts would be good

Is it worth fitting a strut brace with them as they put more stress on the chassis?

 

[charlesk]

For a track car solid ones make sense, but instead of the k-tec ones I would go for a set that are adjustable for camber/caster (for example the AST ones).
Can't comment on the strutbrace front, haven't tried on the clio. Their aim if to reduce movement of the suspension towers to keep the geometry unaffected, rather that stenghtening up of the mounting points as such, so not sure how much it'll help on that front.

I got a warning for excess play in the top mounts on my MOT - they've done 110k and need replacing

Fitting Bilstein B14 coilovers next week and it's a weekend/track car - so I'm thinking solid top mounts would be good

Is it worth fitting a strut brace with them as they put more stress on the chassis?

 

[Drew.]

shameless bump, but i'm planning on doing mine with the new kit this week, will the new bearing need a bit of grease or just whack it in as it comes? ta

 

[Gardus]

Finally solved the knocking problems...after changing the top mounts I went for a used steering rack...no more knocking!

 

[tom_allen]

Could somebody tell me what size spanner is needed to tighten the inserts? I dont have a spanner big enough and I havent got anything to measure across the flats.

Cheers

 

[davo172]

Part no's:
R54 3A 097 80R top mount kit
R82 00 867 250 insert

To be honest I needed to replace the bearings in mine so got the kit anyway, so never checked the new style insert to the old top mounts

Are 172 and 182 same part no ?

 

[Renault Wolverhampton]

yes dave exactly the same parts

 

[davo172]

yes dave exactly the same parts

Thanks mate but I know now, asked a chap in the know about 8.10

 

[Renault Wolverhampton]

traitor!!!!!!!

 

[davo172]

traitor!!!!!!!

It Was you you crazy fool LOL

 

[twingors]

Do knackered strut top bearings make the car hard to steer or is my problem some where else? I mean really "tight" to the right but loose to the left. No knocking though.

 

[fatboymal]

Fred, is there a definitive answer on the new insert (R82 00 867 250)? Will it stop the creaking if used with original top mounts?

 

[fletch8]

Fred, is there a definitive answer on the new insert (R82 00 867 250)? Will it stop the creaking if used with original top mounts?

tried the washers?

 

[fatboymal]

tried the washers?

No.

 

[fletch8]

No.

try the washers, get them for around £5 off someone on here. and if youve not got the tool to get the bolt off i can sell you the one i used for £5 too. so a lot lot cheaper!

stop the squeaking and the grinding noise instantly

 

[Gardus]

I tried the washers: no results
I fitted the new style top mounts: same
Then I fitted a refurbished steering rack, and finally I solved the problem.

 

[sammyhale22]

Is this the new top mount???? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sport-CLI...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27b6d89e9a

 

[andy_casey]

I've just tried to fit these spacers and have encountered some issues with them, so I decided to look into what was going on. Here's a link to the thread -

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...-modified-spacer-issues&p=8688984#post8688984

My investigation lead me to conclude that with the new top mount retaining cup design, I was better off with the old design spacer and an M14x1.5 nut, thus saving £10.

 

[andy_casey]

Is this the new top mount???? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sport-CLI...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27b6d89e9a

The pictures show the old style. The difference is in the top cup and spacer

Old = integrated nut and a boss on the base & spacer and separate nut (17mm hex).

New = separate nut and flat base to the top cup & new 'modified spacer' integrated spacer and nut design.

The modified spacers only work with the new style top cups.

HTH.

 

[lemonnobby]

Bump for this thread does this now work. i have one to fit parts guy didn't say about inserts. so i will have to order them.

 

[Dan@SJM]

Yes. I've fitted a few and never had a noise since. I've got a set to fit to Vikki's when I get 5 minutes.

 

[lemonnobby]

Cheers Dan.

 

[Mike...]

Because I'm a special kin of special, any chance anyone could knock up a guide to this?

Cheers.

 

[ricky1989]

right so ive just ordered all new shocks and top mounts new style with the modified spacer.

question is do i need to go buy another 2 washers?

 

[sprintcup]

right so ive just ordered all new shocks and top mounts new style with the modified spacer.

question is do i need to go buy another 2 washers?

If you've bought the new top mount kits complete then no, all the parts required are in the kit.

Regards Russ...

 

[Andyman]

This topic makes it look more complicated than it is. All anyone needs is 2x top mount kits and 2x top hat nuts - job done