Frayz's Inferno 182 - Back in the old flame

[David Stuart]

Thanks David. Can you feel the difference between the two in the steering?

Not noticeable really from the drivers seat but I’m competing so would favour them since I have both anyway. For the money new I would go with TDs again. Plus I actually think they look better.

I only ended up with the Oz wheels cos they came up 2nd hand on eBay for £500 with good r888 tyres.

Pick with the oz wheels.

And the team dynamics.

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[frayz]

Not noticeable really from the drivers seat but I’m competing so would favour them since I have both anyway. For the money new I would go with TDs again. Plus I actually think they look better.

I only ended up with the Oz wheels cos they came up 2nd hand on eBay for £500 with good r888 tyres.

Pick with the oz wheels.

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Thanks David, appreciate you taking the time to drop me some pics. Of the 2 i prefer the OZs both from a quailty of finish and they fact they're maybe a little less common than the TDs. I already own the most common wheel ever fitted to a Clio in the Turinis so would prefer something a little less seen maybe. lol.
I think The TD is a great looking wheel afetr all, its a classic multispoke design, but as siad previously, if im buying brand new rims based mainly on their weight>cosmetics then i cant overlook the TDs are over 2kg heavier.

 

[frayz]

For interest, i found this info on the Starlet GT site, as these boys mostly run a 15x7 ET38 so quite comparable to what many of us run. Mostly high end JDM wheels but interesting all the same .

3.9kg - Desmond Rega Master EVO - 15x6.5

3.9kg - SSR Type-C - 15x6.5

4.0kg - Volk TE37 - 15x6.5

4.2kg - Volk TE37 - 15x7

4.3kg - Kei Office KS-CE - 15x6.5

4.6kg - BuddyClub P1 - 15x7

4.8kg - Advan Racing RG - 15x6.5

4.9kg - Enkei IRS - 14x6

4.9kg - Wedsport TC-005 - 15x7

5.0kg - Advan Racing ARS RR - 14x6

5.0kg - TOM's New Action - 14x6

5.1kg - OZ Superleggera - 15x7

5.2kg - TRD Sports T3 - 15x6.5

5.4kg - Rota Slipstream - 15x6.5

5.5kg - Sparco Crimson NS2 - 15x7

5.5kg - TOM's New Action - 15x6.5

5.5kg - Ultralite G-Spec - 15x6.5

5.9kg - Rota Grid - 15x6.5

6.1kg - Team Dynamics Pro Race 1 - 15x7

7.3kg - Advan Racing SA3R - 15x6.5

7.7kg - ATS Cup - 15x7

250kg - Speedline 2118 15x7

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

You're turning into the ultimate wheel nerd

How anyone can make a 15" wheel weigh over 7kg is beyond me. I don't think that's much different to the 17s on my 197.

 

[Pegasaurus Rex]

Yeah can’t you hurry up and buy some really expensive wheels and post more pictures of them on your car again Fraz? All this pontificating is getting in the way of my enjoyment of your thread 😂so hurry up and spend some money 😂

 

[frayz]

Yeah can’t you hurry up and buy some really expensive wheels and post more pictures of them on your car again Fraz? All this pontificating is getting in the way of my enjoyment of your thread 😂so hurry up and spend some money 😂

Lmao, all in good time sir, all in good time.
I need to explore all the options before pulling the trigger.
That’s the problem with decent wheels, they’re bloody expensive. 😅

 

[Pegasaurus Rex]

Lmao, all in good time sir, all in good time.
I need to explore all the options before pulling the trigger.
That’s the problem with decent wheels, they’re bloody expensive. 😅

mate for the love of god at least think of the children....or at least your fellow forum members and give us some content to swoon over 😂

 

[frayz]

mate for the love of god at least think of the children....or at least your fellow forum members and give us some content to swoon over 😂

Lol, what do you wanna see? 🤣
Not like 15s are that lavish as it is. 😂🤷🏽‍♂️

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

Fit 19s and impress us.

 

[frayz]

Fit 19s and impress us.

🤣🤣

 

[MLB]

Fit 12s? Think of all the weight savings of not having heavy things like brake discs, calipers etc!

 

[Inferno182]

Tried on her freshly refurbished winter wheels today.
16” Speedline Turinis, a classic look for the little Mk2 Clio but is it time for a change?

What do you think?

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[frayz]

Well that’s me not getting mine done grey [emoji51][emoji51][emoji51][emoji51]


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Ha, they have been gloss black for the last 10 years. I should have them back from paint soon.

Has anyone ever done gold rims on Inferno? 😅

 

[MLB]

Has anyone ever done gold rims on Inferno? 😅

I was just wondering about that after looking for bronze on Petrol Blue!

You'd need some other gold accents to pull it off though, or is the metallic flake gold as well in inferno? (never seen the colour in real life!)

 

[frayz]

I was just wondering about that after looking for bronze on Petrol Blue!

You'd need some other gold accents to pull it off though, or is the metallic flake gold as well in inferno? (never seen the colour in real life!)

Loads of gold in it. Having said that, I never had a single other gold thing on my impreza and that wore gold wheels just fine.

 

[MLB]

That looks stunning!

I'd say gold would work then, bold but would really make it stand out.

Different for imprezas maybe because people are used to them having gold rims? Gold goes well with black and blue anyway I'd say.

 

[gambit]

3.9kg - Desmond Rega Master EVO - 15x6.5

3.9kg - SSR Type-C - 15x6.5
These would look EPIC on a clio !

 

[MrBlonde]

How do you think the 2118's feel against the Turinis mate?.

 

[frayz]

3.9kg - Desmond Rega Master EVO - 15x6.5

3.9kg - SSR Type-C - 15x6.5
These would look EPIC on a clio !

I agree, especially the EVOs, however both are NLA. Desmond are taking pre orders for re-edition EVOs but they’re way out of sensible budget really.
Spoon SW388s are still available over here and cheaper than the EVOs but still frighteningly expensive, and I’ve gotta draw a line somewhere lol.

Id love to try a set out though just for fun. 😅

 

[frayz]

How do you think the 2118's feel against the Turinis mate?.

Ive not yet weighed them but the Turinis are noticeably lighter.
But in addition they have lighter tyres too.
I’m sure people have done it but I’ll weigh one when I get them back to see. 🙂

 

[MrBlonde]

Thinking of putting mine back on Friday🤔

 

[frayz]

Thinking of putting mine back on Friday🤔

Get em on. They look particularly amazing on yours mate. 😍

 

[MrBlonde]

Will do & yeah i think i do prefer them over the TD's,nice having the option.Quick Going over of Wax then on & adjust the height to suit👌🏻

 

[MrBlonde]

So i weighed one of my Turini Wheels with PS3 tyres and one Wheel is 16Kg inc the tyre

 

[jameswrx]

Surely you go for the lightest wheel?

You’re going 15’s for that reason (or certainly a big part) so why compromise? just get the lightest ones. Any ‘nicer’ style will be negated by the sad roller skate look of the car

No car should be subjected to smaller wheels than factory size

 

[frayz]

Surely you go for the lightest wheel?

You’re going 15’s for that reason (or certainly a big part) so why compromise? just get the lightest ones. Any ‘nicer’ style will be negated by the sad roller skate look of the car

No car should be subjected to smaller wheels than factory size

Just been offered a set of Regamastera from Malaysia. $4000usd 😂😂

 

[gambit]

Advan RG-D2 15x7.5 + 40
5.1kg https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174283889463
seller has some other suitable wheels and offsets

 

[frayz]

Advan RG-D2 15x7.5 + 40
5.1kg https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174283889463
seller has some other suitable wheels and offsets

Cheers dude. I’ll have a look. Still got Enkeis or OZs on my mind 😅

 

[gambit]

Cheers dude. I’ll have a look. Still got Enkeis or OZs on my mind 😅

I have picked out my next set of wheels from that seller for my wish list 😜

 

[frayz]

I have picked out my next set of wheels from that seller for my wish list 😜

Which are? 😏

 

[Ian964]

I'm looking to get a set of 15x7 Ultraleggeras as track wheels on my 182 (already use them on the Cayman), but an struggling to find alloy 68.0-60.1 spigot rings. Anyone know where I could find them?
Cheers
Ian

 

[frayz]

I'm looking to get a set of 15x7 Ultraleggeras as track wheels on my 182 (already use them on the Cayman), but an struggling to find alloy 68.0-60.1 spigot rings. Anyone know where I could find them?
Cheers
Ian

Do they have to be alloy?

 

[frayz]

So I’ve done something either pretty great or pretty stupid tonight.
Ive only gone and bought a set of wheels that I would otherwise usually describe as ugly and fucked... but have potential.
I must be mad. 😅

But... they’re made of the good stuff. 😏👌🏼

 

[Usr117063]

Wheres the fun in being sensible? 😄

 

[Ian964]

Do they have to be alloy?
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The plastic/polycarbonate ones only have a working temp of up to about 140C. Much above that and they start to melt. As this is a track car, hub temps can get above that quite easily, hence alloy spigot rings needed.

 

[frayz]

The plastic/polycarbonate ones only have a working temp of up to about 140C. Much above that and they start to melt. As this is a track car, hub temps can get above that quite easily, hence alloy spigot rings needed.

Obviously. 🤦🏽‍♂️
Apologies, my dumb ass wasn’t thinking when I responded. Lol.

Custom set?

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[Ian964]

Obviously. 🤦🏽‍♂️
Apologies, my dumb ass wasn’t thinking when I responded. Lol.

Custom set?

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Perfect, thanks for that!

 

[gambit]

I like where your going with this, waiting with baited breath on the final look!

 

[frayz]

So,
An issue with the sourced rims has meant im back to the drawing board. Apologies 🙈

 

[frayz]

More than anything this is just for fun and may be of interest to anyone doing similar:

So im still digging for wheels which are both lighter than the 2118s (not hard) and that i actually like the look of. I've tried really hard and still am to get a sensible price for a set of forged JDM wheels such as a Volk TE37/CE28N, SSR Type C or Regamaster EVOs. Alas they're all stupidly rare, difficult to source used and either not made anymore or if they are they're knocking on £2500/£3000 a set landed. I'm mad but even i cant justify that money on a set of 15s lol
Pretty much ruled out Ultraleggeras too as im just not a fan of how they look. Cheap wheel and lightweight though.

And im down to 2 real options... i think. The Enkei RPF1 and the ATS DTC.

So I’ve done the following sums based on an example Nankang AR1 tyre which is likely to be the heaviest tyre I would ever fit. those that dont know, It’s a road legal cut slick much like an Toyo R888. And thrown in some prices too just to provide some contrast on why many opt for a 15" over a 16" wheel/tyre.

Wheels (Weights provided by manufacturer)

• ATS DTC 15x7 5.7kg £190 per rim, £760 a set
• Enkei RPF1 15x7 4.5kg £260 per rim , £1040 a set
• Enkei RPF1 16x7 4.5kg £286 per rim , £1144 a set

AR1 (Weights provided by manufacturer)

• 15” tyre 8.7kg Approx £100
• 16” tyre 9.2kg Approx £150

Wheel and tyre assembled as follows.

• 15” DTC 14.4kg
• 15” RPF1 13.2kg
• 16" DTC unavailable
• 16” RPF1 15.4kg

For contrast, a 2118 at 9.6kg with an 8.7kg tyre is 18.3kg.

So based on a set of 4

• 2118s a set of 4 = 73.2kg!!
• A set of 15” RPF1s = 52.8kg a 20.4kg weight loss
• A set of 15” DTCs = 57.6kg a 15.6kg weight loss
• A set of 16” RPF1s = 61.6kg a 11.6kg weight loss

So DTCs allow 15.6kg and RPF1s allow 20.4kg of rotating mass and unsprung weight to be dumped.



Knocked up a little table below with some other popular wheels just for fun.
Prices are approx at time of print, i dare say there are some deals to be had. All weights are manufacturer claimed.

DISCLAIMER - ALL INFO IS BASED ON MANUFACTURER CLAIMS, DONT GET ALL CRAZY IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THE BELOW

Wheel	Size	Weight kg	Approx cost per rim £	Approx wheel set cost £	Tyre	Tyre size	Tyre weight kg	Assembled weight with tyre	Wheel set assembly weight kg	Reduction in rotating mass & unsprung weight vs 2118 kg
Speedline 2118	15x7	9.6	150	600	Nangkang AR1	195/50/15	8.7	18.3	73.2	NA
Volk CE28N	15x7	4.2	NA	Used £1200+	Nangkang AR1	195/50/15	8.7	12.9	51.6	21.6
Enkei RPF1	15x7	4.5	260	1040	Nangkang AR1	195/50/15	8.7	13.2	52.8	20.4
OZ Superleggera	15x7	4.99	NA	NA	Nangkang AR1	195/50/15	8.7	13.69	54.76	18.44
OZ Ultraleggera	15x7	4.99	177	708	Nangkang AR1	195/50/15	8.7	13.69	54.76	18.44
ATS DTC	15x7	5.7	190	760	Nangkang AR1	195/50/15	8.7	14.4	57.6	15.6
TD Pro Race 1.2	15x7	6.2	130	520	Nangkang AR1	195/50/15	8.7	14.9	59.6	13.6
Enkei RPF1	16x7	6.2	286	1144	Nangkang AR1	205/45/16	9.2	15.4	61.6	11.6
TD Pro Race 1.2	16x7	7.4	151	604	Nangkang AR1	205/45/16	9.2	16.6	66.4	6.8
Speedline 2120 Turini	16x7	8.93	NA	NA	Nangkang AR2	205/45/17	9.2	18.13	72.52	0.68

RPF1s i think i prefer in a 16" visually, but maybe doesnt make sense from a cost perspective. Alternatively the DTC is pretty but a good chunk heavier. All be it they will still be significantly lighter than the 2118s fitted.