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David Stuart

ClioSport Club Member
Thanks David. Can you feel the difference between the two in the steering?

Not noticeable really from the drivers seat but I’m competing so would favour them since I have both anyway. For the money new I would go with TDs again. Plus I actually think they look better.

I only ended up with the Oz wheels cos they came up 2nd hand on eBay for £500 with good r888 tyres.

Pick with the oz wheels.

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frayz

ClioSport Club Member
Not noticeable really from the drivers seat but I’m competing so would favour them since I have both anyway. For the money new I would go with TDs again. Plus I actually think they look better.

I only ended up with the Oz wheels cos they came up 2nd hand on eBay for £500 with good r888 tyres.

Pick with the oz wheels.

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Thanks David, appreciate you taking the time to drop me some pics. Of the 2 i prefer the OZs both from a quailty of finish and they fact they're maybe a little less common than the TDs. I already own the most common wheel ever fitted to a Clio in the Turinis so would prefer something a little less seen maybe. lol.
I think The TD is a great looking wheel afetr all, its a classic multispoke design, but as siad previously, if im buying brand new rims based mainly on their weight>cosmetics then i cant overlook the TDs are over 2kg heavier.
 

frayz

ClioSport Club Member
For interest, i found this info on the Starlet GT site, as these boys mostly run a 15x7 ET38 so quite comparable to what many of us run. Mostly high end JDM wheels but interesting all the same .

3.9kg - Desmond Rega Master EVO - 15x6.5

3.9kg - SSR Type-C - 15x6.5

4.0kg - Volk TE37 - 15x6.5

4.2kg - Volk TE37 - 15x7

4.3kg - Kei Office KS-CE - 15x6.5

4.6kg - BuddyClub P1 - 15x7

4.8kg - Advan Racing RG - 15x6.5

4.9kg - Enkei IRS - 14x6

4.9kg - Wedsport TC-005 - 15x7

5.0kg - Advan Racing ARS RR - 14x6

5.0kg - TOM's New Action - 14x6

5.1kg - OZ Superleggera - 15x7

5.2kg - TRD Sports T3 - 15x6.5

5.4kg - Rota Slipstream - 15x6.5

5.5kg - Sparco Crimson NS2 - 15x7

5.5kg - TOM's New Action - 15x6.5

5.5kg - Ultralite G-Spec - 15x6.5

5.9kg - Rota Grid - 15x6.5

6.1kg - Team Dynamics Pro Race 1 - 15x7

7.3kg - Advan Racing SA3R - 15x6.5

7.7kg - ATS Cup - 15x7

250kg - Speedline 2118 15x7 :D
 

massiveCoRbyn

ClioSport Club Member
  Several
You're turning into the ultimate wheel nerd :ROFLMAO:

How anyone can make a 15" wheel weigh over 7kg is beyond me. I don't think that's much different to the 17s on my 197.
 

RustyMojo

Bon Jovi Officianado
ClioSport Club Member
Yeah can’t you hurry up and buy some really expensive wheels and post more pictures of them on your car again Fraz? All this pontificating is getting in the way of my enjoyment of your thread 😂so hurry up and spend some money 😂
 

frayz

ClioSport Club Member
Yeah can’t you hurry up and buy some really expensive wheels and post more pictures of them on your car again Fraz? All this pontificating is getting in the way of my enjoyment of your thread 😂so hurry up and spend some money 😂

Lmao, all in good time sir, all in good time.
I need to explore all the options before pulling the trigger.
That’s the problem with decent wheels, they’re bloody expensive. 😅
 

MLB

ClioSport Club Member
Has anyone ever done gold rims on Inferno? 😅

I was just wondering about that after looking for bronze on Petrol Blue!

You'd need some other gold accents to pull it off though, or is the metallic flake gold as well in inferno? (never seen the colour in real life!)
 

frayz

ClioSport Club Member
I was just wondering about that after looking for bronze on Petrol Blue!

You'd need some other gold accents to pull it off though, or is the metallic flake gold as well in inferno? (never seen the colour in real life!)

Loads of gold in it. Having said that, I never had a single other gold thing on my impreza and that wore gold wheels just fine.
 

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MLB

ClioSport Club Member
That looks stunning!

I'd say gold would work then, bold but would really make it stand out.

Different for imprezas maybe because people are used to them having gold rims? Gold goes well with black and blue anyway I'd say.
 

frayz

ClioSport Club Member
3.9kg - Desmond Rega Master EVO - 15x6.5

3.9kg - SSR Type-C - 15x6.5
These would look EPIC on a clio !

I agree, especially the EVOs, however both are NLA. Desmond are taking pre orders for re-edition EVOs but they’re way out of sensible budget really.
Spoon SW388s are still available over here and cheaper than the EVOs but still frighteningly expensive, and I’ve gotta draw a line somewhere lol.

Id love to try a set out though just for fun. 😅
 

jameswrx

ClioSport Club Member
Surely you go for the lightest wheel?

You’re going 15’s for that reason (or certainly a big part) so why compromise? just get the lightest ones. Any ‘nicer’ style will be negated by the sad roller skate look of the car:cry:

No car should be subjected to smaller wheels than factory size :mad::ROFLMAO:
 

frayz

ClioSport Club Member
Surely you go for the lightest wheel?

You’re going 15’s for that reason (or certainly a big part) so why compromise? just get the lightest ones. Any ‘nicer’ style will be negated by the sad roller skate look of the car:cry:

No car should be subjected to smaller wheels than factory size :mad::ROFLMAO:

Just been offered a set of Regamastera from Malaysia. $4000usd 😂😂
 

Ian964

ClioSport Club Member
  182 FF & Cayman R
I'm looking to get a set of 15x7 Ultraleggeras as track wheels on my 182 (already use them on the Cayman), but an struggling to find alloy 68.0-60.1 spigot rings. Anyone know where I could find them?
Cheers
Ian
 

frayz

ClioSport Club Member
The plastic/polycarbonate ones only have a working temp of up to about 140C. Much above that and they start to melt. As this is a track car, hub temps can get above that quite easily, hence alloy spigot rings needed.
Obviously. 🤦🏽‍♂️
Apologies, my dumb ass wasn’t thinking when I responded. Lol.

Custom set?
 
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Ian964

ClioSport Club Member
  182 FF & Cayman R

frayz

ClioSport Club Member
More than anything this is just for fun and may be of interest to anyone doing similar:

So im still digging for wheels which are both lighter than the 2118s (not hard) and that i actually like the look of. I've tried really hard and still am to get a sensible price for a set of forged JDM wheels such as a Volk TE37/CE28N, SSR Type C or Regamaster EVOs. Alas they're all stupidly rare, difficult to source used and either not made anymore or if they are they're knocking on £2500/£3000 a set landed. I'm mad but even i cant justify that money on a set of 15s lol
Pretty much ruled out Ultraleggeras too as im just not a fan of how they look. Cheap wheel and lightweight though.

And im down to 2 real options... i think. The Enkei RPF1 and the ATS DTC.

So I’ve done the following sums based on an example Nankang AR1 tyre which is likely to be the heaviest tyre I would ever fit. those that dont know, It’s a road legal cut slick much like an Toyo R888. And thrown in some prices too just to provide some contrast on why many opt for a 15" over a 16" wheel/tyre.

Wheels (Weights provided by manufacturer)
  • ATS DTC 15x7 5.7kg £190 per rim, £760 a set
  • Enkei RPF1 15x7 4.5kg £260 per rim , £1040 a set
  • Enkei RPF1 16x7 4.5kg £286 per rim , £1144 a set

AR1 (Weights provided by manufacturer)
  • 15” tyre 8.7kg Approx £100
  • 16” tyre 9.2kg Approx £150

Wheel and tyre assembled as follows.
  • 15” DTC 14.4kg
  • 15” RPF1 13.2kg
  • 16" DTC unavailable
  • 16” RPF1 15.4kg

For contrast, a 2118 at 9.6kg with an 8.7kg tyre is 18.3kg.

So based on a set of 4

  • 2118s a set of 4 = 73.2kg!!
  • A set of 15” RPF1s = 52.8kg a 20.4kg weight loss
  • A set of 15” DTCs = 57.6kg a 15.6kg weight loss
  • A set of 16” RPF1s = 61.6kg a 11.6kg weight loss

So DTCs allow 15.6kg and RPF1s allow 20.4kg of rotating mass and unsprung weight to be dumped.



Knocked up a little table below with some other popular wheels just for fun.
Prices are approx at time of print, i dare say there are some deals to be had. All weights are manufacturer claimed.

DISCLAIMER - ALL INFO IS BASED ON MANUFACTURER CLAIMS, DONT GET ALL CRAZY IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THE BELOW

WheelSizeWeight kgApprox cost per rim £Approx wheel set cost £TyreTyre sizeTyre weight kgAssembled weight with tyreWheel set assembly weight kgReduction in rotating mass & unsprung weight vs 2118 kg
Speedline 211815x79.6150600Nangkang AR1195/50/158.718.373.2NA
Volk CE28N15x74.2NAUsed £1200+Nangkang AR1195/50/158.712.951.621.6
Enkei RPF115x74.52601040Nangkang AR1195/50/158.713.252.820.4
OZ Superleggera15x74.99NANANangkang AR1195/50/158.713.6954.7618.44
OZ Ultraleggera15x74.99177708Nangkang AR1195/50/158.713.6954.7618.44
ATS DTC15x75.7190760Nangkang AR1195/50/158.714.457.615.6
TD Pro Race 1.215x76.2130520Nangkang AR1195/50/158.714.959.613.6
Enkei RPF116x76.22861144Nangkang AR1205/45/169.215.461.611.6
TD Pro Race 1.216x77.4151604Nangkang AR1205/45/169.216.666.46.8
Speedline 2120 Turini16x78.93NANANangkang AR2205/45/179.218.1372.520.68

RPF1s i think i prefer in a 16" visually, but maybe doesnt make sense from a cost perspective. Alternatively the DTC is pretty but a good chunk heavier. All be it they will still be significantly lighter than the 2118s fitted.
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