Weeman sucks ****
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
Nice rear wiper!
Nice rear wiper!
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172, Tiguan
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
I cba to touch them so they are staying white for now. Ideally the 888's will go on them and the red ones will be the road wheels, but again CBA. I'm swapping the 4 good PE2's onto them and selling the Dynamique wheels on the car as they're the wrong offset and heavy!
I cba to touch them so they are staying white for now. Ideally the 888's will go on them and the red ones will be the road wheels, but again CBA. I'm swapping the 4 good PE2's onto them and selling the Dynamique wheels on the car as they're the wrong offset and heavy!
welshname
ClioSport Club Member
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
hairspray trick works a treat if your a pikey b*****d.
hairspray trick works a treat if your a pikey b*****d.
172, Tiguan
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
I'd need the 4 pe2's taken off the dynamique wheels, then 4 888's off the red wheels, then 4 888's put on the white wheels and the 4 PE2's put on the red wheels. They'd charge a fortune I bet!
We've discussed the hairspray thing, put none of us have the balls to do it to brand new tyres. LOL
I'd need the 4 pe2's taken off the dynamique wheels, then 4 888's off the red wheels, then 4 888's put on the white wheels and the 4 PE2's put on the red wheels. They'd charge a fortune I bet!
We've discussed the hairspray thing, put none of us have the balls to do it to brand new tyres. LOL
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
Cracking progress, Jon! Love the strippage! Anymore strippage still to be done?
A light car must feel immense to drive, especially on track and the red f1's i've always liked. Suited Giraffe's ph1 to the ground!
Pissy about that Lock nut! Worst things in the world sometimes, we've always just welded a socket on but with no welder options are limited!
Cracking progress, Jon! Love the strippage! Anymore strippage still to be done?
A light car must feel immense to drive, especially on track and the red f1's i've always liked. Suited Giraffe's ph1 to the ground!
Pissy about that Lock nut! Worst things in the world sometimes, we've always just welded a socket on but with no welder options are limited!
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
Good progress jon, and LOL at more wheels. I've got a few sets if you want any more? :rasp:
Good progress jon, and LOL at more wheels. I've got a few sets if you want any more? :rasp:
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
Giraffe's was black on black, I think you're thinking of Ed or something?
Giraffe's was black on black, I think you're thinking of Ed or something?
172, Tiguan
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
Big thanks to my mate Rich who works for Renault (richard1 on here). I emailed him yesterday to ask what the process is for getting a new locking wheel nut key. Apparently there is a code in the service book that gives them the type i'll need. I checked, but no luck there either, that line was blank. This wasn't going well. One hour later Rich emailed back and said he'd got a few keys from the workshop guys:
17 locking wheel nut keys, some sort of master set.
Bingo, found one that fitted (actually I found 3 that fitted! Good ol' Renault!)
Sucess (even the one we mullered with a chisel on Sunday!).
Relief.
Thanks Rich.
Big thanks to my mate Rich who works for Renault (richard1 on here). I emailed him yesterday to ask what the process is for getting a new locking wheel nut key. Apparently there is a code in the service book that gives them the type i'll need. I checked, but no luck there either, that line was blank. This wasn't going well. One hour later Rich emailed back and said he'd got a few keys from the workshop guys:
17 locking wheel nut keys, some sort of master set.
Bingo, found one that fitted (actually I found 3 that fitted! Good ol' Renault!)
Sucess (even the one we mullered with a chisel on Sunday!).
Relief.
Thanks Rich.
172, Tiguan
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
Blimey, long time no update.
Not much is happening as all my 'car' money is being used on home and child related stuff at the moment, plus i've not been down south for a length of time since start of June.
Little bit of time this week so thought we'd take stock of what we'd got to build engine up and actually get cracking on it.
Turned out the gasket set Reno supplied was only for the top of the engine. Thanks!
A test run building the bottom end up showed that the thrust bearings were not seating correctly (though funnily enough both bottom ends I have they did this!)
http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/wrx_king/mk1-172/?action=view¤t=f2c7ae4f.mp4
Anyways, that seemed to sort itself when taken apart and put back again. Weird.
Bottom end built up, just windage tray and sump to go on.
I've been spending the last two hours cleaning the old sump up as it was full of swarf from the engine that went bang. Horrible job!! It came up alright though and has been thoroughly checked for any remaining swarf.
I've also sprayed the cam cover. Not brilliant, but it hides under upper inlet anyway.
Plan is to finish the bottom end tomorrow and then i'm back up north again. Funds aren't allowing me to buy the cambelt kit this month (£100!) so the full rebuild might have to wait a few weeks.
Car is looking fairly sorry for itself at the mo:
....it's storing it's own future parts...
However the phase 2 dash conversion is coming along (lol)....
More soon, I hope.
Blimey, long time no update.
Not much is happening as all my 'car' money is being used on home and child related stuff at the moment, plus i've not been down south for a length of time since start of June.
Little bit of time this week so thought we'd take stock of what we'd got to build engine up and actually get cracking on it.
Turned out the gasket set Reno supplied was only for the top of the engine. Thanks!
A test run building the bottom end up showed that the thrust bearings were not seating correctly (though funnily enough both bottom ends I have they did this!)
http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/wrx_king/mk1-172/?action=view¤t=f2c7ae4f.mp4
Anyways, that seemed to sort itself when taken apart and put back again. Weird.
Bottom end built up, just windage tray and sump to go on.
I've been spending the last two hours cleaning the old sump up as it was full of swarf from the engine that went bang. Horrible job!! It came up alright though and has been thoroughly checked for any remaining swarf.
I've also sprayed the cam cover. Not brilliant, but it hides under upper inlet anyway.
Plan is to finish the bottom end tomorrow and then i'm back up north again. Funds aren't allowing me to buy the cambelt kit this month (£100!) so the full rebuild might have to wait a few weeks.
Car is looking fairly sorry for itself at the mo:
....it's storing it's own future parts...
However the phase 2 dash conversion is coming along (lol)....
More soon, I hope.
RS Clio 172
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
Drop me your address in a PM mate and I'll send the remaining paint over Not actually sure how much is left, mind.
Drop me your address in a PM mate and I'll send the remaining paint over
Not actually sure how much is left, mind.
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
Nice project.
Are those Vmaxx coilovers you've fitted? I found the rear was twitchy when set too low and after I raised it the handling was much better.
Thread title is wrong though it's a Ph1 not a Mk1.
Nice project.
Are those Vmaxx coilovers you've fitted? I found the rear was twitchy when set too low and after I raised it the handling was much better.
Thread title is wrong though it's a Ph1 not a Mk1.
172, Tiguan
Re: Jon's trackday MK1 172 project thread
Well spotted Sherlock, I'll change it.
Yeah they are VMaxx and a stop gap until budget allows something more suited to the task. It'll be setup properly when the car is finished, though it looks quite low as the back of the car is filled with wheels and other parts.
Well spotted Sherlock, I'll change it.
Yeah they are VMaxx and a stop gap until budget allows something more suited to the task. It'll be setup properly when the car is finished, though it looks quite low as the back of the car is filled with wheels and other parts.
Only mentioned it because you said it was on the lowest setting. I found my Vmaxx were alright on track.
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
Looks awesome on those red wheels, if mine weren't so mint and silver, I'd be considering red!
Love the "work" with the dash too.
Love the "work" with the dash too.
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Evo 5 RS
Looking good,
red is the colour of kings iirc
red is the colour of kings iirc
172, Tiguan
By way of an update (or lack there of...)
After I'd bought the OMP cage for Clio I changed my mind about it and fancied something a bit more substantial, so I decided to cut my losses and sell it.
Instead, after reading excellent reviews, I've ordered a brand new cage from Ktec/Oreca - called their 'race' cage it looks like this:
Details are here:
http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_prod...=3815&appid=21
I've seen pics of a couple fitted and both have said similar to this:
"My Oreca cage arrived complete with all plates and bolts for the different installation options. The tubes were all cut a profiled perfectly, unlike other cage kits on the market. No cutting or adjustment was required. We just tacked them in, double checked the alignment and welded the cage up. First class and would recommend to anyone."
It's due here soon and can't wait to get it fitted when funds allow. Big thanks to Sean at Ktec for sorting it all out for me, he's been a great help while i've dithered over what to order and how much I could afford to pay!
After I'd bought the OMP cage for Clio I changed my mind about it and fancied something a bit more substantial, so I decided to cut my losses and sell it.
Instead, after reading excellent reviews, I've ordered a brand new cage from Ktec/Oreca - called their 'race' cage it looks like this:
Details are here:
http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_prod...=3815&appid=21
I've seen pics of a couple fitted and both have said similar to this:
"My Oreca cage arrived complete with all plates and bolts for the different installation options. The tubes were all cut a profiled perfectly, unlike other cage kits on the market. No cutting or adjustment was required. We just tacked them in, double checked the alignment and welded the cage up. First class and would recommend to anyone."
It's due here soon and can't wait to get it fitted when funds allow. Big thanks to Sean at Ktec for sorting it all out for me, he's been a great help while i've dithered over what to order and how much I could afford to pay!
172, Tiguan
After a bit of a lull i'm hoping things can get moving a bit.
Cambelt kit has arrived along with a few odds and sods. I'm desperate to finish off this engine and get it back in the car!
Engine has been put on the stand Iin a slightly odd way - Dad had already put the clutch on!). Head has been put back on using new headbolts etc etc
Plan is to get the cambelt fitted one evening this week, but we're waiting for an idler spacer to turn up from a phase 2 car as we've only got the phase 1 part. As soon as that turns up we're good to go.
Whilst i've been away the new cage turned up as well. It arrived in 4 packages:
Once the engine is in and the car is running i've got to remove the rest of the dash and then get the car trailored across to a garage in Billingshurst for the cage to go in. I'm aiming for this to happen somepoint during September, but we'll have to see how that goes!
Cambelt kit has arrived along with a few odds and sods. I'm desperate to finish off this engine and get it back in the car!
Engine has been put on the stand Iin a slightly odd way - Dad had already put the clutch on!). Head has been put back on using new headbolts etc etc
Plan is to get the cambelt fitted one evening this week, but we're waiting for an idler spacer to turn up from a phase 2 car as we've only got the phase 1 part. As soon as that turns up we're good to go.
Whilst i've been away the new cage turned up as well. It arrived in 4 packages:
Once the engine is in and the car is running i've got to remove the rest of the dash and then get the car trailored across to a garage in Billingshurst for the cage to go in. I'm aiming for this to happen somepoint during September, but we'll have to see how that goes!
172, Tiguan
Hi mate, was going to pm you later about returning the tools to you.
It wasn't too bad tbh, helped enormously by having the engine on a stand. You must have incredible patience! I think it took us just over an hour end to end to get it sorted. Everything appears to line up and we checked and double checked. I guess the proof will be when it gets fired up.
I'll pm you in a mo regards returning the tools.
Cheers
It wasn't too bad tbh, helped enormously by having the engine on a stand. You must have incredible patience! I think it took us just over an hour end to end to get it sorted. Everything appears to line up and we checked and double checked. I guess the proof will be when it gets fired up.
I'll pm you in a mo regards returning the tools.
Cheers
LY R26 #288
Glad to hear it went ok. I had to have patience, it took me two days from start to finish on the car. That was with changing the dephaser, oil and filter.
Could do it much quicker now.
Yeah just drop us a pm when your ready mate. Also I have a new number so you won't be able to reach me on the old one.
Could do it much quicker now.
Yeah just drop us a pm when your ready mate. Also I have a new number so you won't be able to reach me on the old one.
172, Tiguan
So here follows the Heath Robinson way to fit an engine. All the mechanics out there, please look away, I apologise.
The engine was ready to go back in the car and was on the stand looking pretty. Being a tight arse I didn't get around to hiring an engine crane so a bit of manual labour was needed.
My brother and I took the weight of the engine whilst Dad freed it from the stand. Hard work! With it free the three of us then lifted it into the engine bay. At this point i'll remind you that the gearbox was still in the car! (lol) We got it 'in' but it was miles away from slotting in place. We needed to align two bolts - one each side of the block - and obviously the gearbox input shaft.
A friend of mine arrived for some dinner and all four of us tried to get the engine in place. No luck. It was heavy and it was proving to be a b*****d. 40 mins passed and we were getting nowhere, so we all agreed to give up.
Now very occasionally we do these evenings where everybody buys a bottle of wine up to a tenner and everybody has a glass of each and then guesses what it is. Points are given for guessing the price, grape, alcohol content, country of origin, etc etc. Tonight was one of those nights. Another friend of mine turned up a bit late and so there were 6 of us and I think we had at least 7 bottles of wine.
Come 11ish - and slightly worse for wear - I said to the guy in the picture, Mick, 'come and have a look at the car'.
Anyway, 3 of us, all merry, managed to fit the engine to the gearbox. I've no idea how. I did remember to take a few pics though.
I think we finished about half twelve. I guess the morale of the story is don't drink and drive, but happily drink and fit an engine.
Next job is to get it all connected back up again and then turn it over.
The engine was ready to go back in the car and was on the stand looking pretty. Being a tight arse I didn't get around to hiring an engine crane so a bit of manual labour was needed.
My brother and I took the weight of the engine whilst Dad freed it from the stand. Hard work! With it free the three of us then lifted it into the engine bay. At this point i'll remind you that the gearbox was still in the car! (lol) We got it 'in' but it was miles away from slotting in place. We needed to align two bolts - one each side of the block - and obviously the gearbox input shaft.
A friend of mine arrived for some dinner and all four of us tried to get the engine in place. No luck. It was heavy and it was proving to be a b*****d. 40 mins passed and we were getting nowhere, so we all agreed to give up.
Now very occasionally we do these evenings where everybody buys a bottle of wine up to a tenner and everybody has a glass of each and then guesses what it is. Points are given for guessing the price, grape, alcohol content, country of origin, etc etc. Tonight was one of those nights. Another friend of mine turned up a bit late and so there were 6 of us and I think we had at least 7 bottles of wine.
Come 11ish - and slightly worse for wear - I said to the guy in the picture, Mick, 'come and have a look at the car'.
Anyway, 3 of us, all merry, managed to fit the engine to the gearbox. I've no idea how. I did remember to take a few pics though.
I think we finished about half twelve. I guess the morale of the story is don't drink and drive, but happily drink and fit an engine.
Next job is to get it all connected back up again and then turn it over.
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Quality. Cant do it sober? Have some wine and then try!
