Just Had The White Clio Weighed

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

I've been mildly interested in having the Clio weighed, i'm not chasing figures just curious. So, as there's a scrap merchants round the corner from me i popped down there. Weights below copy and pasted from another thread on this forum.

MK1 172 - 1035kg
Mk2 172 - 1110kg
172 Cup - 1011kg
182 - 1110kg
182 Cup - 1090kg
182 Trophy - 1075kg

White Clio 172 - 960kg

WP_000763 by Ricard o1, on Flickr

MonkeyKnifeFight · Sep 19, 2011

Dang that is pretty light!! bet she shifts.

Just for the record the manual i have in the glovebox says the 182 weighs 1035kg :S i was always under the impression it weighed 1080kg either way good result with yours!!

TheEvilGiraffe · Sep 19, 2011

Amazed that's all you've whipped out TBH ! :S

Rob · Sep 19, 2011

^^ Same TBH!

Basically, you're down a passenger on the weight of my car. So if I were alone and you had a passenger, we'd be equal. mental.

montana · Sep 19, 2011

nice figure, out of curiosity how much do they charge you for this?

theduck · Sep 19, 2011

dont forget he has added most the weight back in with that cage...

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

montana said:
nice figure, out of curiosity how much do they charge you for this?

I believe £5 for this particular weighbridge, i asked and they said just put it on the weighbridge... I didn't pay

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

If i were chasing figures there are a few places and items i could go for and have done, lighter wheels, cage out, drill holes in the bumpers, remove plastic blocks etc from bumpers, cut weight out the doors tailgate etc, lighter seats. There's probably more but i'm happy with how the Clio is....

Regarding cage, if i were to take it out it would make the Clio in the region of 70kgs lighter than the cup model. Strip 70kgs out of the cup model still using 2 seats and harnesses, would be interesting....

Wick · Sep 19, 2011

How much petrol in the tank Rich? After seeing it last weekend I am actually surprised it's not lighter although that cage is substantial! Makes a healthy bhp/T as it is I guess!

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

Wick said:
How much petrol in the tank Rich? After seeing it last weekend I am actually surprised it's not lighter although that cage is substantial! Makes a healthy bhp/T as it is I guess!

I'll look into having it weighed somewhere else just to see, it was a round 960 which i thought interesting, not like 961 or 958... who knows whether a figure was rounded up. on the Phs1 Clio petrol gauge it was on the last 'dot' not on the red. I don't know how many litres are left in the tank when the petrol light comes on, maybe 10 litres? if so maybe 15-20 left litres in the tank?

Rob · Sep 19, 2011

I did forget about the cage, safety weight is necessary!

Jonny1*2 · Sep 19, 2011

even with the cage, I would expect it to be slightly less. Especially with a nearly empty tank. I'm sure it still shifts though mate

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

Jonny1*2 said:
even with the cage, I would expect it to be slightly less. Especially with a nearly empty tank. I'm sure it still shifts though mate

It feels good, i wasn't sure what to expect weight wise so this figure (if correct) gives me something to work on if needs be.

I wouldn't mind working out the bhp/tonne, weight loss to bhp equivalent

TheEvilGiraffe · Sep 19, 2011

Hmm yeah I guess that's quite a complex cage !!

Fuel hardly weighs anyway - a full 50l tank is only 37.5kg (Petrol is 0.75kg/litre)

Ricardos said:
I wouldn't mind working out the bhp/tonne, weight loss to bhp equivalent

Working out !?

172/0.96 = 179.166 bhp/ton

T'ain't rocket science chap ! :rasp:

Have you driven a Ph2 yet !?

Scrooge · Sep 19, 2011

Put a standard ph1 on the weigh bridge I bet it's over the stated weight.

TheEvilGiraffe · Sep 19, 2011

Scrooge said:
Put a standard ph1 on the weigh bridge I bet it's over the stated weight.

Especially if you and your holiday weight are behind the wheel !

Matt350. · Sep 19, 2011

That's pretty good mate 960kg, when I had mine weighed it came in at 1094kg and that was a full fat 172 with 3/4 tank

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

TheEvilGiraffe said:
Hmm yeah I guess that's quite a complex cage !!

Fuel hardly weighs anyway - a full 50l tank is only 37.5kg (Petrol is 0.75kg/litre)

Working out !?

172/0.96 = 179.166 bhp/ton

T'ain't rocket science chap ! :rasp:

Have you driven a Ph2 yet !?

Ok, so based on that figure and multiplying by 1.08 that gives me 193.4bhp based on the workings out on this previou thread i dug out on Cliosport. Is that correct? i knew you'd work it out Rob

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?161412-Weight-loss

Scrooge · Sep 19, 2011

TheEvilGiraffe said:
Especially if you and your holiday weight are behind the wheel !

Haha, cheeky.

TheEvilGiraffe · Sep 19, 2011

Ricardos said:
Ok, so based on that figure and multiplying by 1.08 that gives me 193.4bhp based on the workings out on this previou thread i dug out on Cliosport. Is that correct? i knew you'd work it out Rob

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?161412-Weight-loss

Wut ?

Power to weight is simply the max power out, divided by the weight.

If the car weighs 1 tonne (1000kg) and has a max power output of 172bhp, it has a 172bhp/tonne power to weight ratio. If it weighs 600kg and has 120hp, it has 200bhp/tonne.

You don't get more power by losing weight... it is what it is.

Silent_Scone · Sep 19, 2011

Not too bad. Does yours still have air-con? Poly carbs take a fair chunk out too don't forget..

Will get mine on the weigh bridge at work when I get it back

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

What was the chap working out in that thread?? I get the power to weight, why has it been multiplied by 1.08 to give him a different BHP? I'm assuming he's working out the equivalent total weight loss can equate to something different

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

Silent_Scone said:
Not too bad. Does yours still have air-con? Poly carbs take a fair chunk out too don't forget..

Will get mine on the weigh bridge at work when I get it back

No air con, i'm using the Clio Cup alternator setup too. Polycarbs is an option when i have funds

TheEvilGiraffe · Sep 19, 2011

Ricardos said:
What was the chap working out in that thread?? I get the power to weight, why has it been multiplied by 1.08 to give him a different BHP? I'm assuming he's working out the equivalent total weight loss can equate to something different

I think I understand what he's doing, trying work back to what you'd have to gain in power but stay the same weight, but I can't see the point TBH...

Just don't worry about it haha !

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

TheEvilGiraffe said:
I think I understand what he's doing, trying work back to what you'd to gain in power but stay the same weight, but I can't see the point TBH...

Just don't worry about it haha !

I won't......

terryc101 · Sep 19, 2011

Not bad weight, my mk1 is only 60kg lighter. What's been removed?

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

Removed

Everything aircon, pipes, pump, condensor
Rear seats
Front seats replaced with buckets
All seatbelts gone
Interior plastics
Doorcards
Carpet
Headlining
Parcel shelf
Tar and soundproofing
Complete dash removed and replaced with Mk2 Phs2 dashtop only
Heater Matrix
Airbags
OE steering replaced with OMP
Spare wheel
Boot carpet

Dash and interior loom pared back to the mininum

So stereo, speakers and wires
No heater controls and wires
No airbag ECU and wires
No central locking and wiring
No electric window mechanism and wiring
No rear wiper and mechanism
No fuel rail guard
No carbon cannister
No OE bonnet catch mechanism and cable

That's off the top of my head

Wick · Sep 19, 2011

I was about to ask if you had the spare wheel in!

Tony Hunter · Sep 19, 2011

I think ours was about 850k with cage and 1/4 tank of fuel

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

Tony Hunter said:
I think ours was about 850k with cage and 1/4 tank of fuel

Thats some weight loss! I did wonder whether the weight they gave me was when i drove it on the weighbridge with me in it! The office is right next to the bridge, she gave me the weight as soon as i asked. No harm in going somewhere else for a 2nd opinion.

There is more weight to come off if i really wanted to go for it then if 850 is there

Ricardos · Sep 19, 2011

Wick said:
I was about to ask if you had the spare wheel in!

I remembered to take it out!

fletch8 · Sep 19, 2011

If imagine that some scrappys would "alter" the scales to give a lower reading for when they are buying scrap so they pay less (I may be wrong, just a thought)

Tony Hunter · Sep 20, 2011

So the car would actually be heavier then?

fletch8 · Sep 20, 2011

No idea, suppose if the scrappy is buying or selling metal then they could alter it either way

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