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Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]
Yozza'd Titanium 182
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
awsome video jord, hole car is mint
awsome video jord, hole car is mint
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
Made a start over the past few days with the tube. Im aiming to get the screen out, all bars profiled and ready to do one lot of welding on everything within the next few weeks at the latest.
As said a few days ago I picked up the additional CDS, the bulk of it went off to Whiteley at the weekend as you may have seen in his thread. The list of cage additions/modifications is currently:
- Remove Lower Door Bars and Replace with an X
- Horizontal Bar Behind Seats (Welded at the same height as the lower door bar and lower rear stays).
- Remove Current Seat Bars and Replace with 45mm Tube inc Brackets for Mounting Sidemounts To.
- Extend Cage (From the upper door bar joint) through to the Front Turrets/Struts.
- Diagonal Bar from the Turret/Strut Bar (Back into the car to join at the same height as the joint for the lower door bar)
So I've been moving forward with the door bars over the past few days. The length of the full door bar is 44", and I wanted the joint in the middle...so obviously the 'crossover' had to be at 22".
Chopped two 23" lengths off so I had enough to play with...
Then spent a bit of time profiling the ends, and after having done this once before it didnt take too long...
I did those in the dark so I was pretty sure that they would need trimming/adjusting so they both sat properly on the bar. The short lower door bars had to be removed to be able to do this though...
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The remaining metal/weld still needs to be tidied up properly but Il wait until I have the proper sanding tools/disks to do it, not in the way now anyway. The top one wasnt too far off to start with...
Then tried the lower one...
As you can see its not far off at all, took a bit of adjusting to get it to that, and im still not 100% happy with it, the lower bars angle is ever so slightly off, lol. The lower one needs a tiny bit more adjusting but not much, will get there.
Ive nearly finished the bar behind the seats too, but needs finishing off. Will update when I've got that and some more done.
Also got a few other bits off Whiteley when he came down the other day, a new Thermostat Housing for one. As my current one has a hole drilled with the Mk1 Coolant Temprature Sensor fitted, which we now know is no longer required so I wanted to get rid of it to tidy it up a bit!
And a set of Gaz Adjustable Rear Shocks, as my current ones are not adjustable. At least it will give me something to play with over this year. Ive sent them off to Gaz for a new set of seals and refurb (which was suprisingly cheap), so I should have them back sometime in the next few weeks.
More soon!
Made a start over the past few days with the tube. Im aiming to get the screen out, all bars profiled and ready to do one lot of welding on everything within the next few weeks at the latest.
As said a few days ago I picked up the additional CDS, the bulk of it went off to Whiteley at the weekend as you may have seen in his thread. The list of cage additions/modifications is currently:
- Remove Lower Door Bars and Replace with an X
- Horizontal Bar Behind Seats (Welded at the same height as the lower door bar and lower rear stays).
- Remove Current Seat Bars and Replace with 45mm Tube inc Brackets for Mounting Sidemounts To.
- Extend Cage (From the upper door bar joint) through to the Front Turrets/Struts.
- Diagonal Bar from the Turret/Strut Bar (Back into the car to join at the same height as the joint for the lower door bar)
So I've been moving forward with the door bars over the past few days. The length of the full door bar is 44", and I wanted the joint in the middle...so obviously the 'crossover' had to be at 22".
Chopped two 23" lengths off so I had enough to play with...
Then spent a bit of time profiling the ends, and after having done this once before it didnt take too long...
I did those in the dark so I was pretty sure that they would need trimming/adjusting so they both sat properly on the bar. The short lower door bars had to be removed to be able to do this though...
From:
To:
The remaining metal/weld still needs to be tidied up properly but Il wait until I have the proper sanding tools/disks to do it, not in the way now anyway. The top one wasnt too far off to start with...
Then tried the lower one...
As you can see its not far off at all, took a bit of adjusting to get it to that, and im still not 100% happy with it, the lower bars angle is ever so slightly off, lol. The lower one needs a tiny bit more adjusting but not much, will get there.
Ive nearly finished the bar behind the seats too, but needs finishing off. Will update when I've got that and some more done.
Also got a few other bits off Whiteley when he came down the other day, a new Thermostat Housing for one. As my current one has a hole drilled with the Mk1 Coolant Temprature Sensor fitted, which we now know is no longer required so I wanted to get rid of it to tidy it up a bit!
And a set of Gaz Adjustable Rear Shocks, as my current ones are not adjustable. At least it will give me something to play with over this year. Ive sent them off to Gaz for a new set of seals and refurb (which was suprisingly cheap), so I should have them back sometime in the next few weeks.
More soon!
Mk1 F4R
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
Looking good , good job
Looking good , good job
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
Nice one, this just keeps getting better
Nice one, this just keeps getting better
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
Gaz eh?
Gaz eh?
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
LOL
Looking good mate!
LOL
Looking good mate!
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
Looking good, the X door bars always look purposeful...,strange question, but how you find getting in and out? as i wanted X bars on my escort but i couldnt physically get through the hole that was left, and thats a much bigger opening than the clio has....,maybe im just a gorilla
Looking good, the X door bars always look purposeful...,strange question, but how you find getting in and out? as i wanted X bars on my escort but i couldnt physically get through the hole that was left, and thats a much bigger opening than the clio has....,maybe im just a gorilla
Mk1 F4R
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
I struggle getting in your car now and look like an idiot doing it, wounder wot id be like getting in it with the x bars.
Maybe its coz im tarded lol
I struggle getting in your car now and look like an idiot doing it, wounder wot id be like getting in it with the x bars.
Maybe its coz im tarded lol
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
This is looking good! There better be some 'Riggy' bits on this cage you not gone for the plastic piping then? Was thinking drain pipe maybe... can get all the bends you need form B&Q lol
Will keep an eye out as I need some Cage inspiration
Also, snap off steering wheel might have to be bought....
This is looking good! There better be some 'Riggy' bits on this cage
you not gone for the plastic piping then? Was thinking drain pipe maybe... can get all the bends you need form B&Q lolWill keep an eye out as I need some Cage inspiration
Also, snap off steering wheel might have to be bought....
R5 GTT EFI Clio.
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
Liking it.
Liking it.
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
Hah, nothing really. I got it the lot silly cheap from someone, and its something ive been meaning to learn for AGES.
Ive done bits before, but will be perfect for me to use it to tack all the new cage bars into place ready for a mate to weld them up properly for me. Then hopefully carry on using it and learn some more about it!
Hah, nothing really. I got it the lot silly cheap from someone, and its something ive been meaning to learn for AGES.
Ive done bits before, but will be perfect for me to use it to tack all the new cage bars into place ready for a mate to weld them up properly for me. Then hopefully carry on using it and learn some more about it!
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
Yeah, ive done some TIG welding before, but never had the cash to buy a decent enough TIG Welder. So just went with MIG this time as a starting point!
Stripped it down before and cleaned up all the feed mech, started having a play and ran out of wire... Just need to pick up some fresh tips and a new reel then should be good to go
Yeah, ive done some TIG welding before, but never had the cash to buy a decent enough TIG Welder. So just went with MIG this time as a starting point!
Stripped it down before and cleaned up all the feed mech, started having a play and ran out of wire... Just need to pick up some fresh tips and a new reel then should be good to go
Mk1 F4R
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
I thought it was awesome for the price when we went to pick it up and we got a free towel too :rasp:
I thought it was awesome for the price when we went to pick it up and we got a free towel too :rasp:
JDM Dc2
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
... and Old wire when your trying to clean the welder tip itself as jord found out!
when you gonna start to tack the bars in then jord?...
... and Old wire when your trying to clean the welder tip itself as jord found out!
when you gonna start to tack the bars in then jord?...
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
Id practice tacking all the bars in place etc, and on some scrap and then do the cage yourself, much more satifying to do it yourself.
Im using 5kg reels and they last a fair amount of time, and im welding quite alot, very easy when you get the hang of it, and still on the same tip as i got with the welder years ago
Id practice tacking all the bars in place etc, and on some scrap and then do the cage yourself, much more satifying to do it yourself.
Im using 5kg reels and they last a fair amount of time, and im welding quite alot, very easy when you get the hang of it, and still on the same tip as i got with the welder years ago
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
a crap one lol, its a clarke 130 'turbo' so nothing special at all, but it was cheap at a vat free day at machine mart, fair few years old now, only got 1 wheel left on it, and has DAVE written on it as i made the mistake of leaving it in work one night
a crap one lol, its a clarke 130 'turbo' so nothing special at all, but it was cheap at a vat free day at machine mart, fair few years old now, only got 1 wheel left on it, and has DAVE written on it as i made the mistake of leaving it in work one night
Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project
Well as you can see this one is only a 130amp'er too!
Replaced the liner and put the fresh wire in not so long ago, made a massive difference to the smoothness of the feed, just spent a few hours playing around...far easier to get it to do what you want once you've got it setup right and no worn parts.
Well as you can see this one is only a 130amp'er too!
Replaced the liner and put the fresh wire in not so long ago, made a massive difference to the smoothness of the feed, just spent a few hours playing around...far easier to get it to do what you want once you've got it setup right and no worn parts.
