My mk1 Clio valver project

[NaplesMark16v]

Today these have arrived

Just waiting on;
Air line,
Air cutter,
Air saw blade,
Air needle scale,
Impact guns,
Spray gun,
Welder and if course the body panels! :lol:
Been told by the supplier I'll have to wait circa 3 weeks for the front inner wheel arches, gives me enough time to get the others sorted out first and for the other tools to arrive

 

[Iain C]

Dude looks like you've got a real job there. Will be great to see another valver restored tho

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Dude looks like you've got a real job there. Will be great to see another valver restored tho

A lot of people say that mate, but I love it so I'm giving her the attention I feel she deserves

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Today I got some big boxes!

And inside those boxes

So yep, that's a pair of sills, a pair of rear quarters and a full front and rear panel. Just need my welder to hurry up and make an appearance lol. While I'm waiting for that I'll probably get these rear quarters to flare as they're only pov spec ones.
Can't wait now, like a big kid lol.

 

[NaplesMark16v]

It's here

It's a gas or no gas one and there's a canister with it

 

[M4ck1]

Today I got some big boxes!

And inside those boxes

So yep, that's a pair of sills, a pair of rear quarters and a full front and rear panel. Just need my welder to hurry up and make an appearance lol. While I'm waiting for that I'll probably get these rear quarters to flare as they're only pov spec ones.
Can't wait now, like a big kid lol.

Are they standard Mk1 rear arches. If so you might find it not so easy to fit. I couldn't find wide arches for my Williams and had to modify the rear arches which was a ball ache and that was on the near side . Not sure how easy it would be to fit with petrol filler

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

the shell im having has had new rears put onto it, i can see its had the lip rolled ( standard quarters dont ). so you will either need to role the inner lip or cut it down a little after fitting.

 

[Bluebeard]

Looking at all that rust makes me feel sick. I'm so glad I reshelled mine. All that work just screams headache to me! lol

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Are they standard Mk1 rear arches. If so you might find it not so easy to fit. I couldn't find wide arches for my Williams and had to modify the rear arches which was a ball ache and that was on the near side . Not sure how easy it would be to fit with petrol filler

Yeah they're just poverty spec quarters, I've already started modifying them to fit, don't seem to be doing so bad ATM lol.

 

[NaplesMark16v]

the shell im having has had new rears put onto it, i can see its had the lip rolled ( standard quarters dont ). so you will either need to role the inner lip or cut it down a little after fitting.

Think I'm going to trim it a little before I fit

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Looking at all that rust makes me feel sick. I'm so glad I reshelled mine. All that work just screams headache to me! lol

Mate, it makes me feel like ringing the scrap man lol, I'm biased but it ain't there yet, people was trying to put me off restoring it saying it would cost thousands, it's cost under a grand with all the tools n s**t included lol. I was going to re shell but wanted it to all be original.... Somewhat haha!

 

[NaplesMark16v]

So as all reading will have seen, I've now got;
Mig welder
100Litre compressor,
Spray gun
Cut off tools,
Ap sander,
Mini sander,
Shot blasting kit
Impact ratchet thingy lol
All the usual other stuff that's air powered lol.
And today I got the body panels,
Obviously the flared rear quarters used on the valver and williams aren't available to buy anymore (I don't think anyway lol)
So poverty spec it is
Got the rear quarters out of the box

Used my eye to measure where the flare starts and ends and what not

Sorry about the crap quality of that pic.
Did a little adjusting in the house :lol:

That was just giddiness really ha.
Then took it out to the car,
Clamped it on to the original to see how everything lines up as I've heard people say valver ones are longer than poverty spec ones

And surprisingly everything lines up near enough perfect, all bar an inch or so but that will go once the original is cut out I'm hoping.
Then I used some tape to measure the crown length,

I did put some tape on the lower crown too but no photos as my battery died lol.

I kept making adjustments and test fitting, what I aimed for is about an inch or so difference as the original quart is still on lol.
I've managed to stretch the panel a little to get it to "kick out" above the fuel filler, and made a start on getting it to flare, but sadly no pics as battery was flat, so will take loads tomorrow

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Here's what happened yesterday, I was hoping to make a start on the shell but had to tidy the garage out first...
Here's before I sorted everything

Messy messy garage, bits everywhere, so I started moving stuff

Engine and panels in one corner

Rubbers arranged

Sorted through all the stuff, put some in the car and threw quite a bit, I was a bit stupid and wanted to keep a lot of little bits that were probably original to this car as they all had matching dates on. But space was needed so threw them out

Bonnet and front wings are stored in a box box at the bottom of the garden lol

Compressor in it's location with the welder also

Carpet removed

Through the floor selfie... LOL

More rust was found, again, not all that bad IMO. I've seen worse on newer cars that haven't stood for circa 3 year

And how I left everything,

I need to go and get some quick release couplings for my air hose as they didn't send me none. So will try get something done later and update

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Not a lot has happened today, although I've got the drivers side sill off... Partially anyway lol. Was well confused as they're were 2 sill skins (outer sills)

peeled that back and it's Naples underneath lol. A very very bodged repair.
Evidence of too fast wire speed LOL

And it had only 2 spot welds along the bottom!
But it looks like this now

More tomorrow!

 

[NaplesMark16v]

My battery had dies yesterday so didn't have photos of the sill removed. So here's a pic

I need to do some fabrication for the inner sill and I'm going to order 2 inner wheel arches

Also ordered a pair of front inner wings too

a 3 week wait for them though as the supplier (carz2) had to order them from Klokkerholm.

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Okay... So today this is what I've done.

Started removing what's left of the sill

I did it bit by bit so I didn't cut it too short. Takes a little longer than it probably should but I'd rather not rush having not done anybody work in a year or 2
Removed the rear quarter, again bit by bit

And test fitted the new wing (I know it's not as flared as it should be yet but I'd rather have the shell ready for it to go straight on once it's done

Going to do the other side tomorrow, now I've got the "feel for it" back it will (probably lol) take me half the time than what today did

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Not been able to do much the past few days, however yesterday I did get a bit ore if the rear quarter off

Now when the new panel is offered to the car it matches up perfect! And all those people saying I'd have problems, I didn't have none, other than stumbling across more rain lol.
But today a problem arose

We live in a high area so the rain hits us hard, and with how it's came down today it flooded everywhere

I think I noticed just in time to be able to put my welder and other stuff into the boot of the car, but the nozzle of my welder was in water, the welder itself wasn't as it's on wheels so luckily it cleared the water, I don't leave wire in the welder when it's not been used so hopefully it should dry out okay :fingers crossed:
If the weather is decent tomorrow I'll have to resort through the garage and check everything is okay

 

[tomhunt85]

Good progress, like the work you've done on the arches. I'd never have the guts to do that.

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Good progress, like the work you've done on the arches. I'd never have the guts to do that.

Thanks bud. And haha. A few folks have said that. They also said I'd have trouble getting em to fit and I haven't had any problems, I made adjustments before test fitting to see if they'd be any difference, just need to beat it out a little bit more and planish it out going to try get a lot done tomorrow if weather allows

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Bit of an update! Not a big one though ha. Only managed to squeeze about 2 hours in today.

Cut away some rusty metal

Marked up the other side ready for the other quart coming off

And a video of all the rust that dropped out lol!
https://vimeo.com/103374037

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Been doing a bit of work on the car today, managed to remove the front panel and test fit the new one. Was going to sandblast the engine bay too but I'm going to leave it until I get a sealed gazebo

This came in handy for getting rid of the seam sealer in the hard to reach areas

Removed the subframe and all attached bits

Brake hose nut was dead tight, so had to snip the tw@ lol

Salvaged an old mop stick to retain some stiffness lol

Always wondered why my scuttle would fill with water haha

that's one way to gain access from underneath with a sander lol

a rust patch was found, gauged up

A bit of the old quarter panel is the same gague waste not want not lol

marked ready for cutting out (line is shabby, I'll cut it straight and weld it better lol)

removed old front panel (forgot I'd not tacked the bar in place lol!

new front panel offered up to the car ( still need to cut some out for the removable slam panel )

that's it for today I'm afraid. My front inner wings should be here this week, so will be able to progress a bit more then. Also decided I'm buying new tools as some have been "borrowed" fml... Lol

 

[hardy]

Top work!

I have all this to come very soon once I have stripped it all down to a bare shell.

How come you cut the rear quarters so high up - past the shoulder line of the arch? That is the part that governs the valver wider rear arch.

Josh

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Top work!

I have all this to come very soon once I have stripped it all down to a bare shell.

How come you cut the rear quarters so high up - past the shoulder line of the arch? That is the part that governs the valver wider rear arch.

Josh

Thanks mate. It's all good fun lol.
And because it had rotted away along the bottom of the windows I was just going to patch it up but I'll feel better doing it all lol.

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Got some more parts today
Front and rear inner wheel arches;

All marked today ready for cutting, then hopefully tomorrow I can get something done!

 

[NaplesMark16v]

After lots of thinking and debating I've decided I'm giving up on this project, it kills me to make this decision but my decision is made. RIP TOA...

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

sad to see this end im on about getting a valver and taking all the rust off it ( in a perfect world )

if you dont mind me asking, where did you get all the replacement parts?

ive asked my usuall dealer ( imperial crash repair parts ) and they only do , arch's and sills for the mk1

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Think I'm slowly changing my mind to carry on lol... Just remembered I ordered a few goodies from a c16v member!

Got all my panels from carbodypanels.co.uk and carz2.co.uk mate

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

im hopefully getting that green valver thats come up for sale. needs ALLOT of metal work but im not fussed

to own a mk1 that'll be rust free will be my ultimate path !

cheers for the heads up, i'll have a gander.


just think mate. once you have done, you'll be in the very elite club of MINT valvers

 

[NaplesMark16v]

im hopefully getting that green valver thats come up for sale. needs ALLOT of metal work but im not fussed

to own a mk1 that'll be rust free will be my ultimate path !

cheers for the heads up, i'll have a gander.


just think mate. once you have done, you'll be in the very elite club of MINT valvers

Brookland green? Always wanted one lol. One if my fav colours besides Naples, carman red and xerus

That's what's keeping me going mate. Really can't wait to get it done now

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

yup, talking to the chap now, needs allot of work and a vosa check after ( insurance being insurance wrote it off for a fairly large dent just to the door )

not to far away from me, and me working at a bodyshop/garage means im not going to throw a paddy when i cant do stuff lol. unlike you who is previously a panel beater

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Lol. I enjoy doing it, it's just sometimes I think wtf did I even entertain this for lol. But once I've calmed down I'm good love it. Where's the car from? eBay?

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

off c16v. both rear arch's shot, and both sills, probs allot more needs redoing on it, but i like stuff like that!.

certainly floats m boat more than my mk2 dci does...

 

[NaplesMark16v]

off c16v. both rear arch's shot, and both sills, probs allot more needs redoing on it, but i like stuff like that!.

certainly floats m boat more than my mk2 dci does...

I've but the bullet and doing everything lol. I also love stuff like that, I'm not a fan if the mk2s, although ph1 172s are growing on me lol

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

i might aswell do the lot , as im gong to convert it to a rather special diesel ( i know defeats the object but the outcome wont be )

do all the work once and properly, hopefully another 15 years left in it

yeah i agree, starting to get bord of ' its a ph2 mk2 ' nearly all the same. ph1's are allot more cool, nothing on a mk1 tho !

 

[NaplesMark16v]

Lol. You'll have to get a thread up. Will be a good read!
Mk1 all the way for me I'm afraid, only mk2 bits going on mine are a 172 box, and widetrack lol.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

yupp, same for me ' ish' mk1 with mk2 wide track, and rear track upgrade ( 172 hubs )

mk2 dti engine and box on mechanical injection ( tweek and reek! LOL )

well if all goes to plan and i get it, i'll get a thread going once ive gone over it, ordered nearly everything i need.

i canna wait!

 

[hardy]

I was about to have a go when I saw this:

After lots of thinking and debating I've decided I'm giving up on this project, it kills me to make this decision but my decision is made. RIP TOA...

Glad you have seen sense to carry on and save a MK1 like what I will be doing.

I wont be able to join your MK1 only crew as I did the 172 conversion a few years back. It is now going boost on that engine...

Keep up the good work. Certainly keeping me motivated to get on with mine.

I will post up my progress when I'm not at work...

Josh

 

[william...]

what a nice project! Thanks for report of your work!

 

[NaplesMark16v]

I was about to have a go when I saw this:



Glad you have seen sense to carry on and save a MK1 like what I will be doing.

I wont be able to join your MK1 only crew as I did the 172 conversion a few years back. It is now going boost on that engine...

Keep up the good work. Certainly keeping me motivated to get on with mine.

I will post up my progress when I'm not at work...

Josh

I thought about going f4r but then changed my mind as my intention was to restore it lol. Might do it standard to the max, although I love the idea of wild cams and high comp engine etc

 

[NaplesMark16v]

what a nice project! Thanks for report of your work!

Thank you. And that's cool thought I'd share every detail