NEW 182 ----0-60 in 6.6

[Ian_182]

30-50 in 3rd the clio wins and 50-70 in 3rd the clio wins its in black and white.

Not being funny but read it again

 

[Moby]

Quote: Originally posted by Neil82cup on 01 March 2004


You have to remember the CTR needs a gear change to get to 60, so 6.8 is very impressive. What were the 0-100 times?

182 - 17.5

Cooper S - 19.9

CTR - 16.9

Focus - 20.8 !

206 GTi 180 - 18.7

Love the avator btw neil!

 

[Moby]

I must be going senile then!

30-50 - 4.5 secs (3.8 - CTR)

50-70 - 4.4 secs (3.8 - CTR)

Taken from the table on page 76.

 

[Neil82]

Poor ST170 and Cooper S they really cant cut it for straight line grunt can they!

 

[Ian_182]

I am humbled and have sent you a pm

 

[Moby]

got it and replied - no worries ! I read the table about 8 times to make sure!

 

[Neil82]

You gotta love the gear ratios in the CTR!

 

[Moby]

Quote: Originally posted by Neil82cup on 01 March 2004

Poor ST170 and Cooper S they really cant cut it for straight line grunt can they!

I think focus looks really good and is very good dynamically but it brutally underpowered! Its virtually the same weight as the CTR but Honda have the right idea by compensating the weight by pumping up the power. Surely Ford could have done the same. Ive heard a rummor that Ford will be uping the power of the ST on the new model focus by adding a small turbo - dunno if this is the right idea or maybe they should go for a higher powered N/A unit?

Any thoughts?

 

[Neil82]

Yeah it should have been the ST190!

 

[Moby]

think thats the idea with new one! Maybe it would have been too close in a straight line with the RS?

 

[Ian_182]

It should have been that or higher neil,the focus rs suspension copes with it so it would of been good and it would,nt of trod on the toes of the rs too much either

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by RobFenn on 01 March 2004


Cant really see people finding much diff from a 172/Cup in a short test drive surely?

True... but mine wont be just a short drive...

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by king.stromba on 01 March 2004

Could anyone be bothered to work out the power to weight ratio of cup v 182 for me? Im lazy.

Its practically the same...

 

[Rich-D]

Just to set things straight...



Cup:

172bhp / 1021kg = 168.46 bhp/tonne

0-60 = 6.5secs (Evo & Autocar)

0-100 = 17.7secs (Evo), but 16.9secs (Autocar)

172bhp DIN @ 6250rpm

147lb/ft @ 5400rpm

30-50 - 4.3 secs (Evo)

50-70 - 4.1 secs (Evo)



182:

182bhp / 1090kg = 166.97 bhp/tonne

0-60 = 6.6secs (Evo)

0-100 = 17.5secs (Evo)

182bhp DIN @ 6500rpm

147lb/ft @ 5250rpm

30-50 - 4.5 secs (Evo)

50-70 - 4.4 secs (Evo)



Face it, on the road theres gonna be fook all to seperate these two cars...

 

[paddymph]

it better not start gettin all sh*tty round ere. itll do me head in.

 

[Ian_182]

exept:

Leather,air con/climate control,zenons,abs,slip diff and proper glass...lol

Ian

 

[Moby]

Quote: Originally posted by paddymph on 01 March 2004

it better not start gettin all sh*tty round ere. itll do me head in.

Lol - Ill be livin in "off topic" if it does!

 

[king.stromba]

Quote: Originally posted by Rich-D on 01 March 2004


Just to set things straight...



Cup:

172bhp / 1021kg = 168.46 bhp/tonne

0-60 = 6.5secs (Evo & Autocar)

0-100 = 17.7secs (Evo), but 16.9secs (Autocar)

172bhp DIN @ 6250rpm

147lb/ft @ 5400rpm

30-50 - 4.3 secs (Evo)

50-70 - 4.1 secs (Evo)



182:

182bhp / 1090kg = 166.97 bhp/tonne

0-60 = 6.6secs (Evo)

0-100 = 17.5secs (Evo)

182bhp DIN @ 6500rpm

147lb/ft @ 5250rpm

30-50 - 4.5 secs (Evo)

50-70 - 4.4 secs (Evo)



Face it, on the road theres gonna be fook all to seperate these two cars...







Except 5 grand

 

[paddymph]

slip diff???

not has it?

 

[D-CUP]

....and gay wheels.

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by ian 172 on 01 March 2004


exept:

Leather,air con/climate control,zenons,abs,slip diff and proper glass...lol

Err... since when did the 182 have an LSD?!

 

[paddymph]

it doesnt!

 

[KDF]

It should.. !!




He probably means traction..

 

[Moby]

lol - maybe the CTR should have one too!

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by paddymph on 01 March 2004

it doesnt!

I know...

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by B@llsie on 01 March 2004


lol - maybe the CTR should have one too!

JDM ones do!

 

[Moby]

i knew the DC5 integra type r had one but didnt know the JDM Civics had em. Cool.

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by B@llsie on 01 March 2004

i knew the DC5 integra type r had one but didnt know the JDM Civics had em. Cool.

Yeah, the CTR should have one too IMO...

My mate has an ATR (which has an LSD) and he got an 04 CTR as a courtesy car a couple off weeks ago. He was disgusted at the lack of an LSD!

 

[Moby]

lol! took me a minute to figure out ATR - Accord Type R - doh!

EVO recon its down to price that it doesnt have one - dunno?

 

[Ian_182]

Quote: Originally posted by _KDF on 01 March 2004

It should.. !!




He probably means traction..

I do,its just not my day today sorry

 

[Moby]

lol - as I said b4, every1 has em!

 

[Funkyjahooner]

Quote: Originally posted by king.stromba on 01 March 2004

Quote: Originally posted by Rich-D on 01 March 2004


Just to set things straight...



Cup:

172bhp / 1021kg = 168.46 bhp/tonne

0-60 = 6.5secs (Evo & Autocar)

0-100 = 17.7secs (Evo), but 16.9secs (Autocar)

172bhp DIN @ 6250rpm

147lb/ft @ 5400rpm

30-50 - 4.3 secs (Evo)

50-70 - 4.1 secs (Evo)



182:

182bhp / 1090kg = 166.97 bhp/tonne

0-60 = 6.6secs (Evo)

0-100 = 17.5secs (Evo)

182bhp DIN @ 6500rpm

147lb/ft @ 5250rpm

30-50 - 4.5 secs (Evo)

50-70 - 4.4 secs (Evo)



Face it, on the road theres gonna be fook all to seperate these two cars...








Except 5 grand

5 grand ???

 

[Moby]

you sound like Frank Butcher!!!

 

[Brazo]

Cup is more exclusive though!

 

[cerbera4.5]

i have a mk2 172 and am/was saving up for a bmw 330i,but after reading the article in evo,,,,maybe wait a year and grab a 182 with cup bits,although i can do without those crap stripes looks like a cheap nova,and im not taken with the dark wheels,can you get the cup bits and normal wheels or is it part of the pack??

 

[Moby]

does the 182 with the "cup" options have 17" s with 235!/45 tyres - surely a misprint, I thot it was 205s?

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by B@llsie on 01 March 2004

does the 182 with the "cup" options have 17" s with 235!/45 tyres - surely a misprint, I thot it was 205s?

No, they are 205/45 VR16s on either a 182 or 182 with Cup options...

 

[cerbera4.5]

just been on the renault.co.uk clio configurator ,,,not seen those 2 special paints before,yellow one and a really nice dark green/grey colour! v.nice!

 

[Moby]

cheers, those anthracite wheels are really growing on me. Nice with the racing blue paint too, although yellow is really nice too as is black/gold - just how did you guys choose! It was easy with the cup - mondial blue or eh ... mondial blue. Civic had to be Cosmic Grey tho!

 

[Neil82]

Quote: Originally posted by B@llsie on 01 March 2004


lol! took me a minute to figure out ATR - Accord Type R - doh!

EVO recon its down to price that it doesnt have one - dunno?





Not really, as the JDM CTR is cheaper than the UK one and comes with more stuff i.e lsd. Makes you laugh when they are both built in the same factory.