I have to say that i do not understand why Renault brought out the 182 cup, as the 182 has cup suspension and spoiler up-grades. The best bits from the 172cup and the 172 with 9 bhp more. The 182 cup is 20kgs less (i think) - different between a big man and a small man. So buy a 182 with cup pack, then loose some weight and have best of both worlds once again. The 182 cup is very nasty in my opinion - it looks like a budget car due to the 182 havin everything already. The 172 cup offered a different experience to the 172, but the 182 cup just offers no leather, manual air con and a few other things taken off or down sized. It is like gettin the bus and sittin in the luggage rack at the front - you get off the bus a bit quicker as you are by the door, but is not as nice as sittin on a seat! (sorry)