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Next Generation Consoles
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SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Art resources / assets are still compressed, mate. There's just a whole lot more of them these days!
Kinect is way more advanced, but it's been in development for so much longer and is a key part of Xbox's roadmap. It will be interesting to see if Sony think that a Kinect-like add-on would be an important part of their offerings going forward (although I think their current plans are focused elsewhere).
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
A good example of what happens when an 'old' engine is used so that a game can be rushed to market for that lucrative console launch window... which is a real shame.Yep would really look forward to Dead Rising if for some mad reason I bought a 720.... Would look stunning in 720p & 30fps but unfortunately it doesn't seem capable of holding 30fps so chugs along around the 20fps mark
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-dead-rising-3
The XBOne should comfortably be able to handle this game at 30fps at 720p! It's not a good advert for the console at all. A re-factored engine and more time and this would run a whole lot better. But at the expense of significantly increasing the development time. I was looking forward to playing this alongside Forza as well.A good example of what happens when an 'old' engine is used so that a game can be rushed to market for that lucrative console launch window... which is a real shame.
Will you be getting both the PS4 and XBO Sharky?
Any thoughts on which would be the better buy or which you're most excited about?
Revels Mum & Sister
A good example of what happens when an 'old' engine is used so that a game can be rushed to market for that lucrative console launch window... which is a real shame.
Agreed it is nothing to do with the hardware in this case but is the developer.
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Al_G
I cancelled my PS4 pre-order a couple days back mate. Not because I don't want one, but because there are zero games I'm interested in playing at launch. As a result, it's now just Xbox One for me. Mind you, if I had to pick a side I guess I'm more Xbox fanboi than PlayStation fanboi! LOL!
Which is the better buy / offers most potential excitement? I think the Xbox One is the better buy at the moment as, in my opinion, it offers the best of the launch titles (even though - arguably - both line-ups are relatively weak). I also believe it offers the best online networking and social experience, which is a definite plus as console gaming is about as much engaging with mates as it is just playing solo. As said, this is personal preference and the PS4 will be bought as soon as there are a handful of titles I'm keen to play.
Also, the massive PS4 performance benefits that are demonstrably superior to Xbox One... I'm yet to be convinced. This 50% more powerful is pure bull-pooh. In my experience I am aware of projects on both platforms that run like s**t and some that run beautifully; at a range of resolutions from 720p to 1080p and a variety of upscaled hybrids in-between, on both consoles. It's early days yet and the sheer grunt of the PS4 is definitely a boon to PS4 (and the fact it's more PC-like than the Xbox One, making - as reported - for easier porting and cross-platform development). Once the next-gen console engines / extensions have matured then I fully expect to see an improvement in performance on both systems with more games targetting 900p and 1080p native resolutions. The thing to remember is that a lot of developers are only receiving their finalised Xbox One and PS4 dev-kits as we speak. Even the big first-party developers didn't receive their updated dev hardware until late-on. And, interestingly, there have been enough changes to the fundamental spec along the way to cause them a few headaches!
All in my opinion.
/disclaimer
My mate sent me this link earlier...
I cancelled my PS4 pre-order a couple days back mate. Not because I don't want one, but because there are zero games I'm interested in playing at launch. As a result, it's now just Xbox One for me. Mind you, if I had to pick a side I guess I'm more Xbox fanboi than PlayStation fanboi! LOL!
Which is the better buy / offers most potential excitement? I think the Xbox One is the better buy at the moment as, in my opinion, it offers the best of the launch titles (even though - arguably - both line-ups are relatively weak). I also believe it offers the best online networking and social experience, which is a definite plus as console gaming is about as much engaging with mates as it is just playing solo. As said, this is personal preference and the PS4 will be bought as soon as there are a handful of titles I'm keen to play.
Also, the massive PS4 performance benefits that are demonstrably superior to Xbox One... I'm yet to be convinced. This 50% more powerful is pure bull-pooh. In my experience I am aware of projects on both platforms that run like s**t and some that run beautifully; at a range of resolutions from 720p to 1080p and a variety of upscaled hybrids in-between, on both consoles. It's early days yet and the sheer grunt of the PS4 is definitely a boon to PS4 (and the fact it's more PC-like than the Xbox One, making - as reported - for easier porting and cross-platform development). Once the next-gen console engines / extensions have matured then I fully expect to see an improvement in performance on both systems with more games targetting 900p and 1080p native resolutions. The thing to remember is that a lot of developers are only receiving their finalised Xbox One and PS4 dev-kits as we speak. Even the big first-party developers didn't receive their updated dev hardware until late-on. And, interestingly, there have been enough changes to the fundamental spec along the way to cause them a few headaches!
All in my opinion.
/disclaimer
My mate sent me this link earlier...
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Evo 5 RS
Has anyone linked the 'review' of the PS4 by Polygon?
Andy I'm sure the PS4 is using a similar OGL based API to the PS3 with some new extensions, looks like developers are struggling to get to grips with it though either way.
Andy I'm sure the PS4 is using a similar OGL based API to the PS3 with some new extensions, looks like developers are struggling to get to grips with it though either way.
Yes Scutch.
Evo 5 RS
Reviewing a console at launch is a joke, RPS took the **** out of them lol.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/11/13/pc-the-review/#more-176317
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/11/13/pc-the-review/#more-176317
@Al_G
I cancelled my PS4 pre-order a couple days back mate. Not because I don't want one, but because there are zero games I'm interested in playing at launch. As a result, it's now just Xbox One for me. Mind you, if I had to pick a side I guess I'm more Xbox fanboi than PlayStation fanboi! LOL!
Which is the better buy / offers most potential excitement? I think the Xbox One is the better buy at the moment as, in my opinion, it offers the best of the launch titles (even though - arguably - both line-ups are relatively weak). I also believe it offers the best online networking and social experience, which is a definite plus as console gaming is about as much engaging with mates as it is just playing solo. As said, this is personal preference and the PS4 will be bought as soon as there are a handful of titles I'm keen to play.
Also, the massive PS4 performance benefits that are demonstrably superior to Xbox One... I'm yet to be convinced. This 50% more powerful is pure bull-pooh. In my experience I am aware of projects on both platforms that run like s**t and some that run beautifully; at a range of resolutions from 720p to 1080p and a variety of upscaled hybrids in-between, on both consoles. It's early days yet and the sheer grunt of the PS4 is definitely a boon to PS4 (and the fact it's more PC-like than the Xbox One, making - as reported - for easier porting and cross-platform development). Once the next-gen console engines / extensions have matured then I fully expect to see an improvement in performance on both systems with more games targetting 900p and 1080p native resolutions. The thing to remember is that a lot of developers are only receiving their finalised Xbox One and PS4 dev-kits as we speak. Even the big first-party developers didn't receive their updated dev hardware until late-on. And, interestingly, there have been enough changes to the fundamental spec along the way to cause them a few headaches!
I completely agree mate.
I think for most their purchase will depend on what their mates are getting.
The South Park vid sums up the situation well.
I can't wait to see the quality of games that developers are churning out in 2-3 years time.
Exciting times ahead.
Flol!
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Gavin.
ClioSport Club Member
Is it me or is there a distinct shortage of in-depth Xbox One reviews? Considering it's out first i thought there'd be a few now.
UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
The embargo doesn't lift until next week so there'll be nothing until then.
Gavin.
ClioSport Club Member
Aah! Thats why, I did wonder.
Daz.
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 200 RS EDC
It doesn't help that the PS4's black don't look as dark - they should have set them both up the same because the Xbox looks better straight away.
Not much in it mind - Still more than happy the Xbox is one I went for.
Loving my 3DS at the moment though!
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Yes mate, Sony are continuing to use and evolve their own graphics libs.
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
I think it's largely due to the higher contrast between the light and darker ends of the colour spectrum and the hardware upscaling (which may or may not do something clever), as opposed to the upscaling utilised by the PS4. The PS4 does look a little fuzzed (but not at all bad) but the higher res results in less shimmering and better realisation of thin primitives/objects and distant alpha'd objects.
I *think* I recall hearing that the Xbox One version is darker due to the fact that they hadn't implemented a GI stage of their lighting; hence the dark areas are overly dark whereas the PS4 version simulates 'bounced' light in the scene, hence appears brighter. I don't recall whether or not the dev's said they'd add this stage to the Xbox One version or leave as is, though. If they add it I would expect the results to be closer to the PS4 version in terms of contrast and overall less dark areas. I hope that makes sense. Typed in a hurry! LOL!
Evo 5 RS
Uncharted 4 you say? Interesting. I've yet to complete 3 personally. Didn't grab me like 2 did. The Last of Us on the other hand...one of the greatest games ever made, basically.
Evo 5 RS
UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
I enjoyed The Last Of Us, but IMO it wasn't as good as critics made out. More of a cinematic movie rather than pushing you to do anything. It never got any harder and there were times when you were just wandering around doing nothing, actually hoping for a bit of change or there to be enemies in certain rooms. Atmospherically it was great and the story telling was sensational. But I felt a little let down overall.
Uncharted 2, on the other hand... best single player game I've played.
I never knew that - worrying times :S
Here's info on the headsets:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-11-12-will-my-expensive-headset-work-on-ps4-xbox-one
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-11-12-will-my-expensive-headset-work-on-ps4-xbox-one
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