Non a/c kit - PH1

[2Damnsly Andy]

Hi Guys,
How easy is it to fit the a/c delete kit from a cup toa PH1? is it a straight forward bolt on jobbie or is there some form of modification needed? Advice please fella's before I pay out more than I need to for a Pure kit.

Thanks

 

[yeecup]

I'd just get the cheap pure kit rather than the kit with all the pulleys etc

 

[2Damnsly Andy]

If I could find a cheap pure kit I would. Is the cup kit quite a fiddle then?

 

[mark smith87]

Why are you removing the A/C?

 

[danh90]

Pointless in my eyes Andy but upto you

 

[mantis946]

Should just be a straight swap, I've got it fitted to mine but it has a more recent engine

 

[mark smith87]

I honestly can't see why anyone would want to remove the A/C. It makes little to no difference in the fuel consumption. In warm weather it's pretty uncomfortable driving a car without A/C. I use mine all the time even on track.

 

[mantis946]

For me, cheaper belt changes plus removal of something that wasn't working/will never be used - plus in a silver car it really don't get that hot inside In a black car it's mandatory imo

 

[2Damnsly Andy]

Why are you removing the A/C?

Mine doesn't work anyway. Might as well take it off. I have matched inlets to be fitted, I am looking inti a cam as well so might as well take the a/c off at the same time.

 

[Dan519]

this is my engine bay with AC removed

this is a bay with AC

I know what i'd rather work on

 

[Daniel]

I honestly can't see why anyone would want to remove the A/C. It makes little to no difference in the fuel consumption. In warm weather it's pretty uncomfortable driving a car without A/C. I use mine all the time even on track.

Its something less for the engine to run. Even if you haven't got it switched on its still got to rotate the pulley and that takes power. MAy only be a small amount, but it still takes it.

I'd sack it off. I also sacked off power steering because that meant I could make a kit out of a Renault 11 alternator bracket and a 5 rib belt. Total cost; £18, as opposed to a dedicated kit for £250+

 

[2Damnsly Andy]

Is the steering much heavier without power Dan? I had a MKII Golf for years with no p/s just wondered how the Clio's feel.

 

[jon_r]

You'll need to bend the PAS pipe, which is the most difficult part of the whole conversion imo.

 

[Silent_Scone]

You'd be surprised at what difference it makes to pick up with it gone.

 

[2Damnsly Andy]

You'd be surprised at what difference it makes to pick up with it gone.

The a/c or the p/s or both? Only really looking to do the a/c for now.

I should clarify the term 'only looking' as if I'll be doing this when infact I'll be off to see Fred with the parts and a load of cash to take care of it for me as I am a complete mechanical nightmare at doing anything more than changing discs and pads. Thank you.

 

[imprezaworks]

One of the times i was at oulton there was a blue ph1 there. Stripped, 888's a/con removed and it was quick, quicker than mine was.

 

[Daniel]

Is the steering much heavier without power Dan? I had a MKII Golf for years with no p/s just wondered how the Clio's feel.

Well mines a mk1 so I can only comment on that.

Imo, its made a very small difference to the weight. Mk1's have virtually zero assistance once moving over 5mph. When parking/3 point turning its not much effort. If you're at Llandow hopefully mine will be there and you can try it.

 

[Silent_Scone]

The a/c or the p/s or both? Only really looking to do the a/c for now.

I should clarify the term 'only looking' as if I'll be doing this when infact I'll be off to see Fred with the parts and a load of cash to take care of it for me as I am a complete mechanical nightmare at doing anything more than changing discs and pads. Thank you.

The ac, I'd never remove the pas on a mk2. It's a waste of time

 

[weemark]

When you remove power steering i'm guessing you have to change to a non-assisted rack? And not just a case of running the assisted rack without assistance?
Is there a rack that is a direct replacement?